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標題: 請問有沒有家長安排子女同時上兩間幼稚園? [打印本頁]

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-6 14:16 標題: 請問有沒有家長安排子女同時上兩間幼稚園?

如題. 為何這樣做? 有沒有經驗分享? 是否達到原來的目標?

作者: 銘銘媽 時間: 07-11-6 14:46

咁樣小朋友好辛苦咋, 同埋好多時唔夠時間用, 邊有時間食飯呀?　:tongue:

作者: bb123321 時間: 07-11-6 14:58

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作者: ysnmama 時間: 07-11-6 15:11

點解要如此安排? 返全日也有充份時間食飯及午睡. 若分兩間學校上. 就算兩間學校只係附近. 都係完全無時間食飯,玩及休息. 咁谷法. 只怕得不償失. 健康精神也不好.

作者: pycy 時間: 07-11-6 15:13

點解要咁呢,小朋友唔駛午睡?

作者: yee79 時間: 07-11-6 16:36

係啦, 點解要咁呀, 咁樣迫佢可能有反效果喎, 同埋咁細個就咁辛苦, 佢地仲有20幾年書要讀, 又何必呢..

作者: applecarey 時間: 07-11-6 16:52

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作者: Radiomama 時間: 07-11-6 17:30

Although I don't agree with this arrangement, I really know two kids are studying in this way.
Their pattern: local famous kindergartens in the morning (one is St. Cat and one is Victoria) and international kindergartens in the afternoon (one is Anfield and one is ESF). Both parents' target is to have a better training in english for the kids. The kids are quite busy and not much to time to play except in school.

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-6 19:26 標題: 回覆 #1 mosesdaddy 的文章

The main objective is similar to the two real cases that Radiomama quoted - to have better language training to the kids. Personally I have a friend who arranged his son to study the local and international streams of KCS (蘇浙) at the same time (I read a similar case in another thread here). This will provide ample opportunities of English and Putonghua environment for the kids, I believe.

The so-called bilingual (Eng/Putonghua) kinder. may not provide the right environment and depth required of both languages.

In fact, my kid has been admitted to 蘇浙 K1 am class, and we are waiting for results from EFS, Small World and international stream of 蘇浙.

It seems a hard decision to make

, given the great concerns from many of you (like insufficient rest time, play time, etc). The time and energy spent on commuting between the two kinder. have not yet been taken into account.

What my wife and I think is that our kid can still play at school. In fact, our kid has picked up the reading habits at a young age and he really likes to read (both English & Chinese books) everyday he wakes up. He also likes me to read and sing Putonghua books/songs with him before going to bed. We think he would love having English and Putonghua kinder. education.

Anyway, are we too ambitious

? Could someone there be kind to share more experiences?

作者: samelsaho 時間: 07-11-7 01:20

原文章由 mosesdaddy 於 07-11-6 14:16 硐表
如題. 為何這樣做? 有沒有經驗分享? 是否達到原來的目標?

其實在kcs有好多小朋友都係同時番kcis．學校會安排及照顧學生去食飯及午睡的！

作者: AAA-Mom 時間: 07-11-7 12:12

mosesdaddy

其實2個字形容你及你太太: 自私!

你兒子才是3歲人仔, 幾時谷到大呀? 可否不要因為私慾及虛榮心(不必否認, 這是心理專家的分析, 你無非想自己的兒子比same age geoup叻) 而強迫小朋友咁辛苦.... 有時他們也需要一些自由時間發下呆及玩無謂(你認為)遊戲的...

三思而後行....

原文章由 mosesdaddy 於 07-11-6 19:26 硐表
The main objective is similar to the two real cases that Radiomama quoted - to have better language training to the kids. Personally I have a friend who arranged his son to study the local and intern ...

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-7 13:21

Dear AAA-Mom,

After reading your comments, which seem a bit too radical, I doubt if we have been too selfish.

Well, we have never disallowed our kid to play "unmeaningful" games or be idle for some while.  We have close custody of how our kid reacts when starting a new/fun course (e.g. we discontinued the art class at Kids' Gallery since our kid did not show an interest in the way the class was delivered).

Our kid really loves reading textbooks (not just the pictures but the words).  He likes to repeat what we have taught him, e.g. several months ago, when I took him to the kids playground, he stared at the words and said, "This equipment is designed for children of age 5 to 12.  Adult supervision is recommended...."  He seemed to want to tell me he knew these words which my wife taught him previously.  I was quite astonished because he was about 20 months old at that time.

Last night, he did not want to go to bed (around 9 pm) and yelled at us, asking for some more reading time...

My wife and I have NEVER thought we need to hard press our kid to be a great man of significant achievements.  Really!  But we strongly believe that kids are like a sponge - he keeps taking in the stuff and knowledge he can acquire through games and books, family and intimacy, etc.  This is very true esp for kids of age 6 or below (as we read about the relevant researches).  They have a great quest for new things and it's just very natural for them to learn in an interactive and suitable environment.

It will be a regret if we miss the golden opportunity before our kid reaches the age of 6 (currently he is 2 yr 3 mth).  Yesterday we got the chance to talk to our friend whose kid is studying K2 of both KCS and KCIS and she shared and confirmed our belief of the speaking environment her kid gains.  Now her kid can freely express himself in both English and Putonghua, and is not shy in doing so.

Of course, if subsequently our kid cannot cope (e.g. insufficient rest time or even deteriorating health), we hope we can be able to spot the problem and remedy the situation early.

We still have faith in the arrangement of two kinders. for our kid.

Any others out there to share your (or your friends') experience?

作者: gxjl02 時間: 07-11-7 17:30

Mosesdaddy,

I am also considering if to send my kid to KCIS. I checked the emb webiste; but it seems that no students were enrolled for K1 in 2007-2008 (around 50 students for K2 and K3 only). Will KCIS take K1 students in 2008-09? I heard that no interview is needed for KCIS admission. Is this true? Thanks!

原文章由 mosesdaddy 於 07-11-6 19:26 硐表
The main objective is similar to the two real cases that Radiomama quoted - to have better language training to the kids. Personally I have a friend who arranged his son to study the local and intern ...

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-7 18:01

gxjl02,

I remember that my wife was advised by the KCS/KCIS that if we opt for both KCS and KCIS, we should choose KCS for the am class, so that they would take care of our kid in respect of lunch and sleeping arrangements (and they would wake up our kid for class at KCIS). Therefore, I believe KCIS is still recruiting students for the 2008-09 session.

I will ask my wife whether an interview is required, since the application was all along handled by her.

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-8 14:03

gxjl02,

My wife was informed by KCIS that no interview would be required.

作者: gxjl02 時間: 07-11-8 15:58

Thanks for your infomation, mosesdaddy.

原文章由 mosesdaddy 於 07-11-8 14:03 硐表
gxjl02,

My wife was informed by KCIS that no interview would be required.

作者: OKmom 時間: 07-11-9 13:18

We are cantonese speaking family, and we want our 2-yr-old girl to be fluent in both chinese and English. We did try a bilingual pre-nursery before but the classmates there are all cantonese and they communicate with each other in Cantonese only, so now we switch my girl to an Intl pre-nursery to brush up her English. For our case, a bilingual kinder cannot provide the language environment we want, therefore we want to put our girl in 2 kinders in the coming K1.

We want to choose the right kinders for our girl. In many threads, I found many parents are chosing both KCS and KCIS, and this school only provide PTH (no Cantonese) and English class. My concern is, for those parents (like our case) speaking minimal (or none) PTH and non-native English, how can they support our children who learn two 2nd language at school? Also, there is no interview held in KCIS, will the class end up in all/most children are Cantonese? Pls share.

Any successful cases here, pls share your experience. Also, what is your choice of primary school(IS, bilingual, or local) in order to keep both languages.

[ 本文章最後由 OKmom 於 07-11-9 13:27 編輯 ]

作者: ShatinMaMa 時間: 07-11-9 14:51

Moses daddy,

Is Small World good? I also applied.

作者: rainy0429 時間: 07-11-10 02:06

其實樓主寫得一手流利英文~做乜唔響屋企製造全英文環境呢? 讀國際咪得囉! 用讀另一間學校嘅錢黎私人補習普通話都得啦~
係~小朋友係海綿~我都非常同意!但學習都有好多方法架嘛...
如果唔係工作所需要讀全日班,何苦要小朋友響學校留足一日呢?? 仲要係分開兩間學校,要同時適應D同學同老師,仲要D程度可能差不多,但進度唔同....上午先唱完annie apple,下午可能跳到clever cat....咁小朋友如果唔喜歡重複又重複,反而冇興趣上堂啦...

以上只是路人甲的意見,不喜歡請多見諒!

作者: ICbaby 時間: 07-11-10 03:38

嘩, 使吾使咁下 ??? 佢一定會好辛苦囉,
不如比佢返全人囉, 吾使理佢喇, 一樣姐. 當佢係隻牛咁........ 命苦

好可憐

作者: ICbaby 時間: 07-11-10 03:52

原文章由 AAA-Mom 於 07-11-7 12:12 硐表
mosesdaddy

其實2個字形容你及你太太: 自私!

你兒子才是3歲人仔, 幾時谷到大呀? 可否不要因為私慾及虛榮心(不必否認, 這是心理專家的分析, 你無非想自己的兒子比same age geoup叻) 而強迫小朋友咁辛苦.... 有時他 ...

AAA-Mom
AGREE　

　　完全虛榮心既問題，同其它小朋友比較．咁谷法遲早有問題．

作者: ysnmama 時間: 07-11-10 09:43

我覺得選擇如此方式的家長背後已經有千萬理由去支持自己的,唔好錯過黃金機會, 認為出發點完全係"為小朋友著想", 係對佢地好. 佢地係開心的, 評語聽返來都係正面的. 難道如此方式讀緊的家長會自打咀巴話係錯? 難道講其實小朋友都好辛苦的, 功課又做多份, 默書評估又多份, 又無自己時間等等.

試問如果叫成年人上下午在唔同公司返工. 兩間公司所有人與事及性質都完全唔同. 都真係要調節得好好先可以應付. 一定比在同一間公司做更困難.

點為知對自己兒女"好", 真係每位父母都唔同........唉!

作者: OKmom 時間: 07-11-10 12:27

Hi, all

I would like to share my view. I believe all parents here love their children and try to choose the right kinders/education for their little ones. And different parents have different beliefs or focuses.

Some parents want to get into band 1 primary schools, and therefore they send children to very demanding kinders in order to train up their children capable to cope with those named primary schools. There are lots of reading, writing and dictations since K1. They also send children to do after school classes like phonics, kumons, arts, etc.. in order to gather heaps of certificates for making their porfolios.

Some parents(not the working ones) put their children in full-day kinders so as to train their little ones more independent and mature.

The above cases are not uncommon in HK, which approaches are good, it really depends on the characters of the children.

As a parent, I also want to choose the right education for my child. My focus is to provide a happy school-life plus building a good foundation in both Chinese and English for my child. So, I will plan to do 2 kinders (one local and one intl) too, so as to provide the right language environment to my child. I would choose a relaxing local kinder plus an intl kinder which is always relaxing. I believe my child will learn through play. Children in these kinders will have lots of fun: playground, artworks, storytime, circle time, picnics,parties, etc.. So I believe school-life full of fun is beneficial to my child. BTW, to experience the different cultures between local and intl kinders are also interesting. The above is only my view, will see if it really suits my child after we try it out. If we find my child only likes to do one kinder, we will drop one and keep the other one.

Wish all parents here can find the right education for your children

作者: labelle 時間: 07-11-10 12:33

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作者: joeyeddie 時間: 07-11-10 13:08

其實我都同意OKMOM的講法, 我個仔今年2歲4個月, 而家都係讀兩間學校, 不過有點否同就係下午一星期返兩日學, 上午返五日, 上午班返英普班, 其實我想我個仔返主流班, 但冇位, 所以返咗英普班, 下午其中有兩日要出九龍返蒙特梳利, 看上來我自己都車出車入都覺得好辛苦, 又要待佢放學要接佢走(我指下午) 但我又不是太覺我個仔好辛苦, 反而我覺得佢仲開心過在屋企啊! 我覺得生得佢出, 就應該比最好的東西佢, 就係教育, 最重要的, 阿仔也沒有跟我說不開心, 若然他表態不想返下午, 那我當然不會給他返啦

原文章由 OKmom 於 07-11-10 12:27 硐表
Hi, all

I would like to share my view. I believe all parents here love their children and try to choose the right kinders/education for their little ones. And different parents have different beliefs ...

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-11 01:30 標題: 回覆 #8 ShatinMaMa 的文章

ShatinMaMa,

My wife and I visited Small World with our kid several months ago.  We are impressed because:

1.  it has considerable emphasis on bible teaching (you may refer to its website) (it's good for us as we are Christians)

2.  its teaching is modelled on Montessori philosophy - to encourage the kids to explore by themselves

We also hear the comment from parents of the kinder. who feel the kids are very disciplined.

However, the following need to be considered:

1.  it is very inconveniently situated (we are still hesitating to send our kid there because of its "remote" location)

2.  its outdoor playground has lots of mosquitoes (perhaps due to promixity to trees and plants and because it's the summer season we went there)

Fyi, we'll have the interview in late Jan.  What about you?

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-11 02:01

原文章由 rainy0429 於 07-11-10 02:06 硐表
其實樓主寫得一手流利英文~做乜唔響屋企製造全英文環境呢? 讀國際咪得囉! 用讀另一間學校嘅錢黎私人補習普通話都得啦~
係~小朋友係海綿~我都非常同意!但學習都有好多方法架嘛...
如果唔係工作所需要讀全日班,何苦要 ...

rainy0429,

你過獎了，我的英文算係咁，我響屋企通常都用英文同普通話與小兒交談，最近幾天小兒更常常主動拿中文書嚷著要爸爸以普通話跟他一起讀〔他一向只肯主動要媽媽一起讀書，但可能覺得爸爸的普通話較媽媽好，所以選擇了我。太太事後都跟我講，話阿仔終於肯跟我〕。至於你提到「用讀另一間學校嘅錢黎私人補習普通話都得啦」，我覺得讀蘇浙扣減學券後亦只須幾佰呅，而且效果應更理想。

最重要係：若小朋友讀得辛苦、不開心、甚至身體不能應付的話，我們作為家長肯定要即時調整和安排，放棄同時讀兩間幼稚園。

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-11 02:10 標題: 回覆 #2 mosesdaddy 的文章

OKmom & joeyeddie,

I also agree to your points. After all, as parents, we just wish to provide the best we can to our kids WITHIN their manageable talents and abilities.

joeyeddie, our case is quite similar to yours: our kid attends a bilingual kinder in the morning (Mon to Fri) and goes to Montessori class in the afternoon (Wed to Fri). According to my wife, he enjoys very much in both schools (esp Montessori).

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-11 02:34

OKmom,

From the experience of our friend (whose son is studying in both KCS & KCIS at the same time),

1.  yes, his classmates are mainly Asians/Chinese looking

2.  but she told us at KCIS, the teachers would remind the class to speak in English when they hear the students communicating in Cantonese

Our friend's background is similar to ours (and to yours I guess): with Cantonese as the mother tongue.  But if there is 3-hour of PTH (with English lessons) (KCS) and 3-hour of Eng (with PTH lessons) (KCIS) for five days a week, I trust small kids just learn and pick up the languages naturally.

Up to now, we haven't made up our mind as to which primary school is our dream school.  We used to think of DBS, but heard of instances of the need to donate large sums of money (we are no rich people).  Also, we are afraid our kid will get undesirable peer influence like brandname craze (assuming DBS students most come from rich families).  On the other hand, we wish our kid to continue his ability to read and write Chinese (not just verbal PTH fluency).  So the chance to send him to ordinary IS may be low.  It depends on the growing trend in some IS that starts to put a heavier emphasis on PTH edu. (like Renaissance College).  VSA may be another choice (as I read from another thread that VSA gets many good comments).  But I haven't checked its academic track record.  So may be we'll probably put our son to a not-so-bad local school, with PTH as the medium of instruction in teaching Chinese so that what has been mastered in KCS won't be wasted.  Still has to do a lot of researches.

If you have any ideas, pls share your thoughts too.

原文章由 OKmom 於 07-11-9 13:18 硐表
We are cantonese speaking family, and we want our 2-yr-old girl to befluent in both chinese and English. We did try a bilingual pre-nurserybefore but the classmates there are all cantonese and they communicatewith each other in Cantonese only, so now we switch my girl to an Intlpre-nursery to brush up her English. For our case, a bilingual kindercannot provide the language environment we want, therefore we want toput our girl in 2 kinders in the coming K1.

We want to choose the right kinders for our girl. In many threads, Ifound many parents are chosing both KCS and KCIS, and this school onlyprovide PTH (no Cantonese) and English class. My concern is, for thoseparents (like our case) speaking minimal (or none) PTH and non-nativeEnglish, how can they support our children who learn two 2nd languageat school? Also, there is no interview held in KCIS, will the class endup in all/most children are Cantonese? Pls share.

Any successful cases here, pls share your experience. Also, what isyour choice of primary school(IS, bilingual, or local) in order to keepboth languages.

作者: OKmom 時間: 07-11-11 12:04

Mosesdaddy,

Thx for your info. As for the choice of primary school, we are in the similar situation, I need to do more research and gather more comments from other parents.

In some threads I read, parents said their children's English deteriorates quickly since they moved on to local primary schools, as their peers are all communicating in Cantonese in recess time. On the other hand, children in IS primary need to go Chinese class (eg. Kumon Chinese) after school. At present ,I tend to choose IS due to the following:

1.Although I can speak English to my girl at home, I think IS can provide much better English speaking environment, as peer influence at school is strong.

2.I believe my little girl will build a foundation in Chinese reading and writing by the time she finish her local kinder. As IS primary has less workload, it is relatively easier for me to teach her Chinese by giving her reading and writing time at home everyday, and Chinese is still the main language in HK. As for PTH, as long as she can master Chinese reading and writing, I will send her to do some PTH class at a later stage. People who can speak good English is easier to pick up PTH because PTH is pronounced by PINGYIN.

3.Workload in local schools are usually heavy, I just worry that my girl spend most of her time just to finish homework and prepare for tests or exams everyday.

This is only our present view, we will take into consideration both our girl's progress and our finance, and may adjust accordingly.

[ 本文章最後由 OKmom 於 07-11-11 12:33 編輯 ]

作者: Radiomama 時間: 07-11-11 16:31

OKmom and mosesdaddy,

To be honest, it's not easy!  For the students in IS, they would have many projects and reading tasks, so....still not enough time to join ECAs!  And it's not easy to learn chinese without motivation and environment!

My nephew (in GSIS) is "bookaholic" but just stick to english reading.  He also studies mandarin and german in school but the later one is better!

However, RC, CIS, Victoria, CKY, Yew Chung may be some good choices to you.  With both mandarin and english learning environment.

For the KCS and KCIS, please also consider their teachers' qualification, curriculum and teaching method.  My friend's daughter was there but she quited after 1 month.

Hope you two could make a right choice!  Good luck!

Mosesdaddy,

I think your son is "Moses", right?  Ha, my son is Joshua!! Nice to meet you.

[ 本文章最後由 Radiomama 於 07-11-11 16:32 編輯 ]

作者: OKmom 時間: 07-11-11 17:57

原文章由 Radiomama 於 07-11-11 16:31 硐表
OKmom and mosesdaddy,

To be honest, it's not easy! For the students in IS, they would have many projects and reading tasks, so....still not enough time to join ECAs! And it's not easy to learn chin ...

Hi, Radiomama

Thx for your advice. I agree it is not easy, and nowadays parents need to provide lots of support to their kids regardless the type of schools they are going. Every kid is unique, I would say, no single school can fit all kinds ie. one school is suitable for one kid but turns out not suitable for another kid. That's why we have to bear in mind the characters of our kids in the course of searching for the right education, hopefully everyone of us can make the right choice.

[ 本文章最後由 OKmom 於 07-11-13 21:05 編輯 ]

作者: mosesdaddy 時間: 07-11-15 13:50

原文章由 Radiomama 於 07-11-11 16:31 硐表
OKmom and mosesdaddy,

To be honest, it's not easy! For the students in IS, they would have many projects and reading tasks, so....still not enough time to join ECAs! And it's not easy to learn chin ...

Hi Radiomama,

Yes, my son is called Moses. Salute to Joshua (and thanks for leading the Isralites to the promised land

) !

You mentioned about your friend's kid quitting KCIS after 1 month of study. Could you elaborate why? You also gave hints on noting the teachers' qualifications, curriculum, etc. I really have limited info in these respects (I only heard that KCIS follows the UK curriculum and that's it). My basic requirement is to let my kid be exposed to the English speaking environment. Perhaps I have assumed that KCIS, being an IS, would be relatively freer and more open in its way of teaching and curriculum design. Really have not much clues!! Could you pls share what you know, or give me some pointers of info?

These days, I've been thinking about "creativity" - i.e. whether KCIS could foster a learning culture that helps to enhance the creativity of the kids. The reason why I have this thought mainly stems from my kid's interview at the Victoria kinder. (CWB) on last Saturday. You are welcome to share your views in this aspect too.

Sorry for asking so many questions

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