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作者: mamami    時間: 09-9-9 10:31     標題: 有無家長參觀了"St Pau Co-ed"簡介會

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作者: Gooddaddy    時間: 09-9-9 14:23

I got there around 5:15pm and the assembly hall was packed already so we were instructed to stay in another room which I believe was a canteen, to watch the live broadcast of the briefing session on a projector screen.  

The principal started the briefing by showing us a newly shot DVD about the school's recent development.  Then she talked about the application and interview procedures.  This was followed by FC(Financial Controller) talking about the fee remission scheme, and Q & A.

I boarded the first shuttle bus to leave but unfortunately got stuck at the round about just outside the school.  The road was packed with cars on both sides of the road.  And I think one of the lorry driver left his lorry in the middle of the road as he couldn't find a spot to leave his vehicle.  After waiting for 10 minutes, I called police to sort out the situation. But that's not the end of the story.  The police arrived at about ten minutes later and at that moment I could see the lorry driver arguing with the police officer..blah blah blah..
作者: ha8mo    時間: 09-9-9 14:59

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作者: Gooddaddy    時間: 09-9-9 15:38

There were few ladies got off the shuttle bus and headed for public transport as soon as they had realized that we would be stuck for a while. I wish I had done the same, otherwise I wouldn't have waited for half an hour... Sometimes ladies are smarter than men, I tell you.  
But when our shuttle bus drove past the stop just before the toll-gate, I saw a huge crowd waiting to get on the bus...Then, I said to myself: thank god I did'nt get off the shuttle bus.

I think if the parents didn't park their cars in the congested area, the incident wouldn't have happened.
作者: liyinfai    時間: 09-9-9 16:27

No Big Deal and Not really happy experience!!
The principal Ms Lee answer some questions very trickly:
1/ One parent ask for IB. She answer that student at F3 will not need to compet for IB position (IB start at F4). However, the student will be advised to choose 334 or IB by school. She also admit that SPCC is a DSS, that mean only 50% student can seat for IB and 50% goes for 334.  However, she insist there will be not assessment or competition for IB post at F4.
If all of us are clever enough, it is not possible to let all the students wishing for IB goes for IB program in F4 (assume over 50% students finally decide to go for IB , even tough some of them are advised by school not to apply IB). The principal 's answer is tricky

2/ One parent ask if the homework is heavy in SPCC as a whole. Again, Principal answer it very skillfully. She said in first half year of G1 life, there is no test of exam. She is proud to say what she stress is the happy school life! Oh my god, what we want to know is as a whole for coming 12 years. She just misleading the direction to the 1st half yr. Actually, everyone knows SPCC is the very famous school in the sense of pushing, pushing and pushing the academic results. I know that every student inside is assigned a file. The use of that file is to record the no. of prize the student get in the competition inside and outside the school. The answer given is tricky and misleading.

The feeelings after the talk:
1/ SPSS is a DSS only. The power is not from the teacher but comes from the parents. SPCC is a place who tries to gather those parents who like to push, pressure their child to get the academic excellence but not education.
2/ I believe SPCC can produce examination expert because the school's theme aim meet the requirment of parents: => Pushing, Squeezing the children mind, soul to get excellent results via competition.
3/ The teachers' qualification is not differnet from other DSS. It is important but the principal did not mention. She tries to establish the image of SPCC as a very top school in HK
4/ I really don't like the attitude of that 2 ladies/principals. I have attended the briefing sessions in these two yrs. These two ladies were so proud of leading this school so "successfully". During the briefing sessions in 2008 and 2009, they always ask the parents to listen carefully the so-called requirement they want during the interview. " You 'll not know what I am looking for during the play time" ; "I want the student should be like this, smile, smart...so on so on"; "Remember la , I'll choose only 200 children out of so many application during 5-minute interview" ..... One thing I need to stress is that The AIM of Briefing seesion is (1) to introduce the school to parents so that the parents can consider whether this school is suitable to the kid or not. (2) I don't want to know the "tips" of interview. I want to asses this school is qualified to suit my kid or not. (3) You, as the principal, should talk more the real life of student inside. Don't avoid to answer the question like the homework load, the IB curriculum, which are the most importment part we want to know. (4) Remember, going to a school to study is a very important issue to a child's life. Please respect the children and parents. They are not beggars. The admission process is BIDIRECTIONAL. You can turn down the child's application. On the other hand, we can also turn down your invitation to admission even the child pass the assessment. ( I've heard some student finally leave the school as they had been squeezed by school for few years to go for competition, assessment). SPCC is not an excellent schools in someone mind...too demanding, always ask the student to go out for competition, always think they are nearly the best school ...at least the principal is not humble enough.

These are what I would like to say. After thoroughful consideration (I had attended the briefing sessions for 2 yrs and I had friends' children studying there), I decide this school is not suitable, actually not healthy to my kid , and I would not apply it.
作者: Gooddaddy    時間: 09-9-9 16:50

A parent was asking the principal questions in english, but I don't think she answered very well.... She replied something like "We use both streams, he can choose".  I didn't know what the question was about as I had just come back from toilet, but the response from the principal seemed uncomprehensive.  May be she wasn't too comfortable with english?
作者: liyinfai    時間: 09-9-9 16:58

The question the parent ask is " my kid 's spoken chinese is not so good, will this jeopardize his chance of application?"
Definitely, the principal is not "prepared" to answer in English in the briefings session. Therefore, her english response is so "funny"
This is the real life inside the SPCC.
作者: fongyuen    時間: 09-9-9 17:08

原帖由 ha8mo 於 09-9-9 14:59 發表
我見到報紙報導覺得幾好笑:

……
面試時,校方多會提問小朋友日常生活的問題,只要他們對答自然便可,毋須刻意背答案,過分緊張反會弄巧反拙。

她舉例稱,過去有學生表示自己去海洋公園玩耍,但說不出公園裏有什麼看、有什麼玩; ...


笑咗…
即係有既定答案啦,始終不離傳統框框。邊個話去公園唔可以游水架?咁多個公園都有泳池…
抑或在下理解錯誤呢?望高人指教﹗
作者: jollyma    時間: 09-9-9 17:14

這類刻意被包裝過的簡介會, 其實對了解該學校, 亳無幫助, 純粹像參觀樓盤一樣, 每人派份精美簡介, 看看其校舍建築設計, 所處位置環境等等, 連學生都放晒學, 要真正了解該校, 都是要問學生家長,以及看其平日行為表現等
作者: Yolinda    時間: 09-9-9 17:31

有個不知所謂坐最前既男人話他的太太會遲埋份工添! 使唔使呀?
作者: G-Ma    時間: 09-9-9 20:30

係哦, 好多公園都有泳池, 點解唔可以去公園游水呢?  


原帖由 fongyuen 於 09-9-9 17:08 發表


笑咗…
即係有既定答案啦,始終不離傳統框框。邊個話去公園唔可以游水架?咁多個公園都有泳池…
抑或在下理解錯誤呢?望高人指教﹗

作者: Eclipse_2006    時間: 09-9-9 21:34

幾年前我有位同事個女考 spcc, interview 時對方問佢如果學校收左你個女, 你會唔會做全職媽媽去 support 佢.  結果我位同事真係轉做全職媽媽, 個女亦入了 SPCC.

呢D名校好鍾意收果D有高學歷又肯做全職媽媽既小朋友.

原帖由 Yolinda 於 09-9-9 17:31 發表
有個不知所謂坐最前既男人話他的太太會遲埋份工添! 使唔使呀?

作者: G-Ma    時間: 09-9-9 22:30

想小朋友有好成績, 有個高學歷又全心全意仲全職既媽媽輔導梗係好d架啦.

原帖由 Eclipse_2006 於 09-9-9 21:34 發表
幾年前我有位同事個女考 spcc, interview 時對方問佢如果學校收左你個女, 你會唔會做全職媽媽去 support 佢.  結果我位同事真係轉做全職媽媽, 個女亦入了 SPCC.

呢D名校好鍾意收果D有高學歷又肯做全職媽媽既小朋友. ...

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-10 07:03

但係亦都好多職業婦女d小朋友入到....係事實wor
原帖由 G-Ma 於 09-9-9 22:30 發表
想小朋友有好成績, 有個高學歷又全心全意仲全職既媽媽輔導梗係好d架啦.

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-10 07:20

我覺得間間都差唔多


原帖由 jollyma 於 09-9-9 17:14 發表
這類刻意被包裝過的簡介會, 其實對了解該學校, 亳無幫助, 純粹像參觀樓盤一樣, 每人派份精美簡介, 看看其校舍建築設計, 所處位置環境等等, 連學生都放晒學, 要真正了解該校, 都是要問學生家長,以及看其平日行為表現 ...

作者: judy    時間: 09-9-10 09:41

原帖由 lin624 於 09-9-10 07:20 發表
我覺得間間都差唔多


我冇去聽簡介會,不過上星期六去了男拔,聽完,即刻打消申請念頭。

我的阿大、阿ニ讀的是cheap cheap私小,被小學校長叫了六年超鈍(校長早會會叫"dear 超鈍"),一樣成績出色。當我向他們說將來都會讓阿三讀那小學時,佢地都唔知幾開心。

我好喜歡吃東西,常去九記、生記、麥奀吃,cheap cheap 地,合我口味。
作者: bobomegan    時間: 09-9-10 09:50

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-9-9 16:50 發表
A parent was asking the principal questions in english, but I don't think she answered very well.... She replied something like "We use both streams, he can choose".  I didn't know what the question w ...


In fact, the lady was asking what kind of medium the interview will conduct, English, Mandarin or Chinese as her kid doesn't speak well in Mandarin or Chinese.  The principal replied, we use "both"!  why both for 3?  and both means which 2?

[ 本帖最後由 bobomegan 於 09-9-10 09:55 編輯 ]
作者: didikoko    時間: 09-9-10 13:15

but the lady who asked that question was speaking Cantonese-English wor....not a native speaker...stranger....

What for?

原帖由 bobomegan 於 09-9-10 09:50 發表


In fact, the lady was asking what kind of medium the interview will conduct, English, Mandarin or Chinese as her kid doesn't speak well in Mandarin or Chinese.  The principal replied, we use "both"! ...

作者: F$A$T    時間: 09-9-10 13:59

原帖由 bobomegan 於 09-9-10 09:50 發表


In fact, the lady was asking what kind of medium the interview will conduct, English, Mandarin or Chinese as her kid doesn't speak well in Mandarin or Chinese.  The principal replied, we use "both"! ...


聽完個媽媽既提問, 再聽埋校長答佢, 我好"R"頭, 一個5星級既學府校長.....居然講得出呢d英文.....呢part真係有小小失望
作者: DYPT    時間: 09-9-10 14:20     標題: 回覆 6# liyinfai 的文章

I totally agree with you.
作者: judy    時間: 09-9-10 14:33

原帖由 F$A$T 於 09-9-10 13:59 發表
聽完個媽媽既提問, 再聽埋校長答佢, 我好"R"頭, 一個5星級既學府校長.....居然講得出呢d英文.....呢part真係有小小失望


香港人,最叻係咩呢?笑人家英文不好啦、笑新移民講嘢唔正啦。政務司唐英年寫信給立法會,葉劉不是批評內容,而是批評英文唔好。

我担心下任小學校長,SPCC寧選英國乞衣文盲,都唔選本地精英。單就英文談話一項,我睇唔到本地精英比英國乞衣文盲有優勝的地方。
作者: F$A$T    時間: 09-9-10 15:21

原帖由 judy 於 09-9-10 14:33 發表


香港人,最叻係咩呢?笑人家英文不好啦、笑新移民講嘢唔正啦。政務司唐英年寫信給立法會,葉劉不是批評內容,而是批評英文唔好。

我担心下任小學校長,SPCC寧選英國乞衣文盲,都唔選本地精英。單就英文談話一項,我睇唔到本地精 ...


如果你有去聽, 你可能都有我呢種感覺.
一個高級學府既校長, 應該係見慣好多大場面. 果位家長既問題跟本係無難度, 亦吾需要技巧去答.....但校長既答案同用詞真係令我跌眼境.
作者: wootaitai    時間: 09-9-10 17:45

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作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-10 17:48

原帖由 judy 於 09-9-10 14:33 發表


香港人,最叻係咩呢?笑人家英文不好啦、笑新移民講嘢唔正啦。政務司唐英年寫信給立法會,葉劉不是批評內容,而是批評英文唔好。

我担心下任小學校長,SPCC寧選英國乞衣文盲,都唔選本地精英。單就英文談話一項,我睇唔到本地精 ...

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-10 17:50

年年都有人咁講

但係全港最多人報的學校~依然係SPCC
作者: Reximom    時間: 09-9-10 18:09

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作者: bobomegan    時間: 09-9-10 18:14

原帖由 judy 於 09-9-10 14:33 發表


香港人,最叻係咩呢?笑人家英文不好啦、笑新移民講嘢唔正啦。政務司唐英年寫信給立法會,葉劉不是批評內容,而是批評英文唔好。

我担心下任小學校長,SPCC寧選英國乞衣文盲,都唔選本地精英。單就英文談話一項,我睇唔到本地精 ...


我唔係去評論/挑剔佢英文好唔好, 個問題係, 係佢根本都答唔到個提問者條問題!

老實講, 佢聽完條問題之後, 本人係覺得佢登時不知所措, 校長見慣大場面而有如此反應, 實在奇怪!
作者: littlefaith    時間: 09-9-10 19:10

原帖由 lin624 於 09-9-10 17:50 發表
年年都有人咁講

但係全港最多人報的學校~依然係SPCC


其實,間學校多唔多人報、會唔會俾人講,其實都係廢話,我哋作為家長,最重要係幫自己仔女搵最適合嘅學校。

不過,好多家長都miss咗呢個point,當啲學校好似名牌手袋咁,係人都知Prada好多人想買囉,但有幾多人真正需要Prada?咪又係人云亦云。

我見唔少家長,因為自己虛榮心,一窩蜂報啲「聖喇拔」,但又有幾多家長,會真係問吓仔女究竟想入咩學校?仔女嘅preference先最緊要。我真係唔信報呢啲「聖喇拔」嘅小朋友,真係個個都係「聖喇拔」嘅fans,講到尾又係家長自己揀。

與其同人拗,不如放返多啲時間了解你小朋友真正需要啲乜啦。
作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-11 07:55

我同意呀...
原帖由 littlefaith 於 09-9-10 19:10 發表


其實,間學校多唔多人報、會唔會俾人講,其實都係廢話,我哋作為家長,最重要係幫自己仔女搵最適合嘅學校。

不過,好多家長都miss咗呢個point,當啲學校好似名牌手袋咁,係人都知Prada好多人想買囉,但有幾多人真正需要Prada?咪又 ...

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-11 07:57

原帖由 Reximom 於 09-9-10 18:09 發表
Co-ed 年年個briefing 都有人鬧架啦. So what?
人地”店大欺客”, 尢其係對住班無關連既家長, 根本唔放在眼內, 你degrade佢又點, 真係多你一個唔嫌多, 少你一個唔嫌少, 大把人排住隊報!

個位長篇大論既liyinfai聽 ...

作者: wunma    時間: 09-9-11 08:15

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作者: ysnmama    時間: 09-9-11 08:24

如果心根本是喜歡的, 應該會一邊鬧, 一邊不滿, 一邊照報. 等同於一些節目或雜誌. 邊看邊鬧. 其實想報的. 不會因為沒有去簡介會就不報, 亦不會因為對簡介會有不滿而不報的. 大家只抒發自己感受. 對報不報的決定是不會有太大影響的.
作者: Amom    時間: 09-9-11 10:04

原帖由 ysnmama 於 09-9-11 08:24 發表
如果心根本是喜歡的, 應該會一邊鬧, 一邊不滿, 一邊照報. 等同於一些節目或雜誌. 邊看邊鬧. 其實想報的. 不會因為沒有去簡介會就不報, 亦不會因為對簡介會有不滿而不報的. 大家只抒發自己感受. 對報不報的決定是不會 ...


很同意你的說法, 去年我報名時也聽到不少對學校的批評, 但最後批評學校的全都有報名.
作者: Gooddaddy    時間: 09-9-11 14:26

Just handed in the application this afternoon.  The staff was very polite and pleasant.

Don't let the briefing session discourage you from applying.
作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-11 23:09

o岩o既



原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-9-11 14:26 發表
Just handed in the application this afternoon.  The staff was very polite and pleasant.

Don't let the briefing session discourage you from applying.

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-11 23:11

舊年報紙都話好似收到2300份報名表

原帖由 wunma 於 09-9-11 08:15 發表
從何得知?

作者: lin624    時間: 09-9-11 23:12

贊同你o既論點
原帖由 ysnmama 於 09-9-11 08:24 發表
如果心根本是喜歡的, 應該會一邊鬧, 一邊不滿, 一邊照報. 等同於一些節目或雜誌. 邊看邊鬧. 其實想報的. 不會因為沒有去簡介會就不報, 亦不會因為對簡介會有不滿而不報的. 大家只抒發自己感受. 對報不報的決定是不會 ...

作者: avbee    時間: 09-9-14 10:55

last year, the principle first asked the name, and then told a story and asked the kids questions regarding the story. (the kid must reply a reasonable answers)




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