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作者: good-boy    時間: 09-11-24 15:01     標題: St Paul Co-edu 八卦一問

昨天出街見好多私家車泊晒學校出面, 是否註冊日?
作者: circleda    時間: 09-11-24 15:07

個度咁吊腳你出街都經過, 你住在隔離村乎?

原帖由 good-boy 於 09-11-24 15:01 發表
昨天出街見好多私家車泊晒學校出面, 是否註冊日?

作者: good-boy    時間: 09-11-24 15:13

昨天去causeway bay 行aberdeen tunnel, 好易見, 但泊學校出面車 吾見龍尾
作者: hui916    時間: 09-11-24 15:36

註冊日在25日, 即明天. 我第二輪面試也見到此奇景, 大約下午3-4點, 校門外有一條很長的車龍, 大部份都是司機來接載學生放學. 擋風玻璃上貼住學生的姓名及班級.
作者: good-boy    時間: 09-11-24 15:48

oh I see.  Thanks.

By the way, 剛醒起, St Paul Co-edu interview 時解 要show 住址證明 ?
作者: hui916    時間: 09-11-24 16:00

我認為校方主要是擔心學生住得太遠, 來回交通太累, 影響返學.

我唔覺得St. Paul Co-ed專揀有錢人.

原帖由 good-boy 於 09-11-24 15:48 發表
oh I see.  Thanks.

By the way, 剛醒起, St Paul Co-edu interview 時解 要show 住址證明 ?

作者: aupatrick    時間: 09-11-24 16:25

My son got an offer from SPCC.

We're rich people in average of 6 billion people on earth.
We're just ordinary people in average of 7 million people in HK.
We're probably the poor people in average of 1 thousand families in SPCC.
作者: Jen2008    時間: 09-11-25 07:31

We may be the poorest among the SPCC family as only my husband is a bread winner and we have two girls to cope with.

原帖由 aupatrick 於 09-11-24 16:25 發表
My son got an offer from SPCC.

We're rich people in average of 6 billion people on earth.
We're just ordinary people in average of 7 million people in HK.
We're probably the poor people in average of ...

作者: JKTL    時間: 09-11-25 13:42

間間學校都一定會揀有關係或者有好多貢獻既人
不可否認

但 同樣道理
學校一定亦都會揀來讀書 但唔一定有錢既人
SPCC ~DBS ~DGS~或者ST PAUL BOY
都係咁~

不要一直執著在這一點上面
一直討論人o地既屋企或爸爸媽媽做咩工作~~等~

盡力就好啦
唔得唔代表小朋友就係差
只不過學校覺得你小朋友唔適合罷了

講番轉頭~
都有好多好多係有關係人氏或者好有錢既人
去考spcc或dbs dgs 都係唔得
據我所知~~都幾多人~~
原帖由 hui916 於 09-11-24 16:00 發表
我認為校方主要是擔心學生住得太遠, 來回交通太累, 影響返學.

我唔覺得St. Paul Co-ed專揀有錢人.

作者: JKTL    時間: 09-11-25 13:44

但~妳有冇見過~光係校車~都幾大陣仗喔~~~
比私家車更誇張~
架架校車都係full
原帖由 hui916 於 09-11-24 15:36 發表
註冊日在25日, 即明天. 我第二輪面試也見到此奇景, 大約下午3-4點, 校門外有一條很長的車龍, 大部份都是司機來接載學生放學. 擋風玻璃上貼住學生的姓名及班級. ...

作者: telegogo    時間: 09-11-25 15:13

Every school has studetns from families of different levels.  不要低自己.亦不要神化別人,這样對自己或別人的孩子不公平
睇返近二年的家長feedback可知一二
只要有交學費,自己俾或申請助學金(老師是知的),no one at the school even care about who you are.  there is no tuck shop at school and students is encouraged not to bring any money to school
作者: zhuma    時間: 09-11-25 15:43

P6 students were having their 1st term final exam started yesterday. Parents were coming to pick up their kids after the exam.
作者: charlottechan    時間: 09-11-25 16:52

SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮.
作者: aupatrick    時間: 09-11-25 17:07

嘩! 邊個同事咁大整蠱, SPCC都放棄?

原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...

作者: charlottechan    時間: 09-11-25 17:13

佢哋都係緊張我. 我丈夫今天去註冊了.
等埋DGJS的結果才做決定吧.
作者: hui916    時間: 09-11-25 17:22

從另一個角度看, 太多有錢人可能會成為女兒努力向上的動力. 另外就是建立一個好的圈子, 不是叫你攀附權貴, 對她將來發展可能有幫肋.

今朝搭的士去同個女註冊. 的士司機同我講, St. Paul Co-ed, 咁好的學校, 個仔如果考到, 就算9000學費, 一定俾佢讀, 最多辛苦啲, 踩多幾轉, 或者開埋夜班囉!
作者: JKTL    時間: 09-11-25 17:30

別放棄
對孩子不公平
既然都去考了
怎麼樣都試一年先

其實學生根本唔知邊個有錢或冇錢
老師都未必會知
(會比較既係阿媽問題..但我相信就算有錢阿媽都唔會咁教小朋友啦)

同事叫你放棄
我想多少有點酸葡萄心理




原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...

[ 本帖最後由 JKTL 於 09-11-25 17:31 編輯 ]
作者: shmom    時間: 09-11-25 19:24

同學之間一定會有比較,但只要父母唔自卑,跟她灌輸正確的觀念,已經差很遠;另外還要看你個女的性格,有的細路你跟她解釋後會釋然,但有的就仍然耿耿於懷,成日問點解同學有的她沒有。但細路仲甘細,又好難知道。

如果要驚的話,DGJS有一樣的問題,到時又點揀呢?

原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...

作者: ratafan    時間: 09-11-25 19:33

I think it's a very good training environment to have students from different backgrounds. The earlier they know about this, the better. e.g. I would tell my sons that a residential flat can worth HK$100M or HK$1M depending where it is.  So that when they grow up, they won't be so surprised.  We learn every day from others, from what we see and what we hear!  So are our kids.

原帖由 shmom 於 09-11-25 19:24 發表
同學之間一定會有比較,但只要父母唔自卑,跟她灌輸正確的觀念,已經差很遠;另外還要看你個女的性格,有的細路你跟她解釋後會釋然,但有的就仍然耿耿於懷,成日問點解同學有的她沒有。但細路仲甘細,又好難知道。

如果要驚的話,DGJS ...

作者: ilovenunu    時間: 09-11-25 19:56

原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...


囡囡在SPCC(中學)唸初中,幾年前中學註冊及考分班試時也遇見一些住在牛頭角的家長,她們的囡囡給我的感覺是既獨立又有自信,而大家家長們圍在一起傾談時,也非常融洽。囡囡的同學有住馬鞍山、天水圍、東涌,當然也有住山頂的,但同學間相處沒有問題,非常開心。
如果,你真的很擔心,可以在放學時間(約下午四時),往堅尼地道看看,沒錯,你會看見不少私家車,但你會看見更多SPCC學生在等巴士、小巴,或行落中環乘搭公共交通工具的學生,大家有說有笑。我相信他們大部分不是大家口中的有錢人吧。
囡囡常說他們中學才入讀的,與SPCC小學升上的,相處得很融洽開心,那些小學升上的既有學識,又有禮貌,所以不用太擔心。
作者: 212512    時間: 09-11-25 23:34

原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...


Dear Charlottechan,

SPCC also accepted my daughter. Same as u, we live in Kowloon, 基督教, from St. Cat, not rich family, not related to SPCC.
But I think it's really not a problem to  study with 不同階層的人 at the same school as long as we teach our kids to have the correct value.

A few days ago, I don't know how to choose if DGS also accepts my daughter. But now I have decided to choose SPCC after discussion with my daughter's class teacher (who is very experience). SPCC should be a more suitable school for her based on her characteristic.

Hope my daughter & all other accepted kids will enjoy the school life at SPCC.
作者: bblovesmama    時間: 09-11-26 00:34

212512:

Why have you decided to choose SPCC?
作者: VKwan    時間: 09-11-26 00:57

原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-11-25 16:52 發表
SPCC收咗我個女, 我家住牛頭角.基督教.
有同事叫我放棄這學校, 因太多有錢人, 阿女會自卑.我會考慮這點, 也會考慮遠近問題.
但又覺得社會上就是有不同階層的人.只要好好教育女兒, 讓她坦然面對,背景其實是家長的憂慮 ...
幾大都讀左先啦,最多唔適合咪轉校囉!
作者: zlmao    時間: 09-11-26 01:05

Congratulations to you all whose children are accepted by SPCC.  We are also living in Kowloon side. Not related, and no religion.  How do you think about the commuting time from Kowloon (of course depending on where it is in Kowloon) to the school (school starts at 8am)? Or you will move over to HK Island instead?

Do you know where to find some information on nanny buses for Kowloon?

Thanks a lot!
作者: olima    時間: 09-11-26 04:32

除左家庭背景的因素外,我又想八卦一問︰

小朋友如果IQ高但EQ低又是否合讀SPCC呢﹖比方說好重視成敗得失,別人對他/她的評價...
作者: Jen2008    時間: 09-11-26 07:07

We live in Ho Man Tin.  I asked the nanny bus about the travelling arrangement yesterday. Boarding time:

South Horizon - ~7:30 a.m.
Central, Admiralty MTR - ~7:10 a.m. (~$800)
Ho Man Tin - ~6:50 - 7:00 a.m. (~$1600)

I have made some observation on the other school bus from my place:

Good Hope - aboard at 6:45 a.m. (schools starts at 7:30a.m.)
MCS - aboard at 7:20 a.m. (school starts at 8:00a.m.)
Sacret Heart Kinder - aboard at 7:15 a.m.

In view of the above, I think the time the nanny bus to my place is quite acceptable.
作者: LittleKidult    時間: 09-11-26 09:22

係中學有清窮學生唔出奇, 不過係小學出現就.........
中學可以攞份次第排名就知個考生成績如何, 或者睇下d公開比賽獎項等黎收生, 叫做有往積睇, 但考小學....無得睇成績, 就算公開比賽獎項都會係初級既, 認受性唔會太大, 學校點揀d有潛質既學生呢? 所以我相信小學收得既唔會係窮人囉. 記得中學既講座有提過全校約3成學生係有用學費減免, 小學有冇講過有幾多成?
唔咁講小學收生全部係"有錢人", 不過應該唔會有窮人!
只少係我個仔(讀緊中學部)7而家d同學中, 舊生升上去既冇一個窮過我地!

原帖由 ilovenunu 於 09-11-25 19:56 發表


囡囡在SPCC(中學)唸初中,幾年前中學註冊及考分班試時也遇見一些住在牛頭角的家長,她們的囡囡給我的感覺是既獨立又有自信,而大家家長們圍在一起傾談時,也非常融洽。囡囡的同學有住馬鞍山、天水圍、東涌,當然也有住山頂的 ...

作者: cutekiddy    時間: 09-11-26 09:34

i know that someone who lives in a $60 million apartment was rejected also.  For those accepted, don't forgive as your kids really performed their best in the interview.  Be proud of them and give them support!

Good luck to all!
作者: good-boy    時間: 09-11-26 09:39

上面有人講:

"同學有住馬鞍山、天水圍、東涌"  --> 點解要show 住址證明 ?  有冇住公屋家長收呀 ?

"舊生升上去既冇一個窮過我地!" --> 你又點知呀?

"幾大都讀左先啦,最多唔適合咪轉校囉!" --> 絕對同意

如果你有1千万捐俾學校, 我估無論interview 成, 間間學校收你仔女!

總之, 問心無愧, 盡力讀書咪得羅.
作者: hui916    時間: 09-11-26 09:46

如果我無記錯, St. Paul Co-ed係唯一提供學費減免的直資或私立學校. 據聞家庭收入$70,000以下的都有機會, 當然要通過其入息, 支出及資產審查.

有需要的家庭不妨提出申請. 不用介意, 正如哈佛是全美最貴的私校, 但哈佛保証, 不會有學生因承擔不了其商高昂學費而不能入讀.

中國人有句老話, "千金難買少時貧", 貧困的家庭, 只要有正確的價值觀, 比別人努力, 將來會更有出息!
作者: telegogo    時間: 09-11-26 10:21

原帖由 hui916 於 09-11-26 09:46 發表
如果我無記錯, St. Paul Co-ed係唯一提供學費減免的直資或私立學校. 據聞家庭收入$70,000以下的都有機會, 當然要通過其入息, 支出及資產審查.

有需要的家庭不妨提出申請. 不用介意, 正如哈佛是全美最貴的私校, 但哈 ...


SPCC's remission system is the best for middle class families among all DDS.  They calculate your disposable income, instead of total income of the family.  They will deduct the cost of the housing expenses, either in the form of mortage payment or rental payment, and that is the difficulity which most middle class familites are facing.
作者: Johnny@Klnbay    時間: 09-11-26 10:42     標題: 回覆 1# hui916 的文章

其實SPCC學費減免很寬鬆,自住樓宇不計入資產內,收入計算可以扣除樓宇供款部份,如果收入每月五六萬以上,扣除一二萬供樓,相信大部份人都可以獲得學費減免!
但礙於面子問題,很多人都怕別人知道,但請放心,除非小朋友自己說出去,學校在保障個人私隱方面做得很好,減免手續不經班主任處理,由校務處獨立辦理,學校這方面做得很好!    另 中學的手冊內不用 填父母親職業 和地址  (小學的就不知道了) !私隱度高!     
他們自主收生有那麼多年經驗,收了你的子女代表你的子女是有一定潛質!我仔在中一就讀,原校小學升上的英文一般都很好!      我仔是外校生,經過三個月的訓練 ,英文寫作方面突飛猛進 ,寫出來的文章相信去考中學會考都合格有余了!當然考5*才是他們的目標!
作者: LittleKidult    時間: 09-11-26 11:37

"舊生升上去既冇一個窮過我地!" --> 你又點知呀?

唔好意思, 我係講緊個仔相熟既同學或已知既同學(約十幾個), 並唔係全部學生.

不過點都好, spcc中學(小學唔清楚, 我地都係外來生)係間好好既學校, 入到既當然要亨受下學生生活.....

[ 本帖最後由 LittleKidult 於 09-11-26 11:41 編輯 ]
作者: 212512    時間: 09-11-26 14:14

原帖由 bblovesmama 於 09-11-26 00:34 發表
212512:

Why have you decided to choose SPCC?


Dear bblovesmama,

One of the reasons is because of her 男仔頭性格, she always gets alone better with boys than girls. She always plays happily (and even crazily) with the male, no matter in class, church, park or different activities. I suddenly thought it will be very cruel for her to have no more male classmate for the next 12 YERAS. No group work, no stupid sharing, no interaction among boys & girls for 12 years are very strange indeed. The real world is not like that.
If I want to give the best (including learning environment, all round & well balance) education, Co-ed seems better. When I think of better
心理發展, other factors like location, rich/poor …. seems not important anymore.

作者: share123    時間: 09-11-26 14:20

Dear  212512,

May I know how did you prepare your kid for SPCC and DGJS interviews? Thanks.

share123
作者: kittylock    時間: 09-11-26 14:44

若小朋友EQ低就更需學校的教導及扶助建立完整而正確的價值觀。

藉着基督教的背景,這方面 SPCCPS 做非常出色!

在校內,小朋友學會了信任、分享、關愛、互相扶持、自我激勵.....,體現「信、望、愛」精神。

原帖由 olima 於 09-11-26 04:32 發表
除左家庭背景的因素外,我又想八卦一問︰

小朋友如果IQ高但EQ低又是否合讀SPCC呢﹖比方說好重視成敗得失,別人對他/她的評價...

[ 本帖最後由 kittylock 於 09-11-26 14:50 編輯 ]
作者: bblovesmama    時間: 09-11-26 23:12

Dear 212512,

Thanks for sharing. I totally agree.
作者: 212512    時間: 09-11-27 19:11

原帖由 share123 於 09-11-26 14:20 發表
Dear  212512,

May I know how did you prepare your kid for SPCC and DGJS interviews? Thanks.

share123


Dear share123,

其實沒有特別 prepare a lot for the interview.
返而是為她的 personality 去預備, 因為 she was quite shy before kindergarten. As I need to go to work, so I arranged one extra-activity per day (all nearby & carried by grandma every day). Hope that she can have more exposure, have fun and the don't be so shy. Luckily, 她不覺得辛苦, 返而覺得好好玩. 我當然亦有為她參加幾個朗誦比賽, 但全部都贏唔到。 On the other hand, I only focus on her homework at night because other people said the result of kindergarten is very important. We found that she becomes more mature with more exposure and the school helps a lot in training her up.
所以應該將功勞都給婆婆及幼稚園老師, what I did is only on time planning for my daughter ecery day. She was accepted by SPCC & got second-in DGS really really surprise all of us.
But now, I am dreaming to focus on her 品德教育 & correct value and at night, I wish she can handle the homework by herself lah... because I found her self-control is rather low.
作者: beaclem    時間: 09-11-30 13:25

Agree

小兒今年spcc三年級, 唔見得有同學歧視問題, 同學間亦唔會有比較家底既情況, 就算係家長, 亦只係有部份係有$$人士, 都幾大部份係中產, 或家境普通(本人就係其中一份子)

就算係有$$人, 佢地都好低調, 唔會周圍"曬", 好多都好有教養, 所以唔洗擔心

原帖由 JKTL 於 09-11-25 17:30 發表
別放棄
對孩子不公平
既然都去考了
怎麼樣都試一年先

其實學生根本唔知邊個有錢或冇錢
老師都未必會知
(會比較既係阿媽問題..但我相信就算有錢阿媽都唔會咁教小朋友啦)

同事叫你放棄
我想多少有點酸葡萄心理




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