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作者: jantwe02    時間: 10-3-29 21:24     標題: 劍鳴 (pm) vs 學之園 (am)

各有好處, 選擇如何?  有過來人或家長給點意見嗎? 十分感謝
作者: centreaven    時間: 10-3-29 21:36

Hi, I am in the same situation as you. I have not yet confirmed with the school yet... but I need to find out if KM 's pm class is Mandarin/English only .... because I want my child to learn more Cantonese instead.

KM is more famous... and for me I looked at it's primary school allocation. I don't mind pm because we live far from kowloon tong and I am afraid my child won't be able to give up early to catch the school bus.... so I rather choose pm.

any mother or father, please give suggestions??





原帖由 jantwe02 於 10-3-29 21:24 發表
各有好處, 選擇如何?  有過來人或家長給點意見嗎? 十分感謝

作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-29 23:25

同我舊年既情況一模一樣. 我其實prefer am, 所以就同km request轉am, 而家就起km讀緊.

LH比KM優勝既地方係語言應該比km出色, 同埋上k1唔洗再煩, 小朋友應該會返得好開心. 我覺得會比較shape到小朋友既姓格.

而KM既校舍環境就比LH好, 雖然兩間學校pn都無得出outdoor playground, 不過有時小朋友都有機會出去睇下花草, 或者其他活動. KM既課程雖然比較深, 不過中英數overall好平均. 教得深之餘小朋友又好開心, 活動都好多. 一定要留意唔係直升k1, 要擔心一排.

我相信兩間學校既老師都係好好既, 睇下你想要d乜.
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-29 23:26

原帖由 centreaven 於 10-3-29 21:36 發表
Hi, I am in the same situation as you. I have not yet confirmed with the school yet... but I need to find out if KM 's pm class is Mandarin/English only .... because I want my child to learn more Cant ...


PN and K1's pm class has cantonese teacher + 1 net, then PTH and Eng only from k2 on.
作者: centreaven    時間: 10-3-29 23:36     標題: 回覆 3# elmolly 的文章

elmolly

Thank you for your info. Very helpful.
but when you say:
LH比KM優勝既地方係語言應該比km出色
what does it mean..????  Many people tell me the English level at KM is better.

also,  what is the % of PN student entering K1 at Keen Mind????  you are frightening me......

was it easy for you to switch to am class?  or simply just send in a letter of request?
作者: jantwe02    時間: 10-3-29 23:37

如果她們在各方面都差不多,那我考慮的就是她們的收費.
學之園:$3700 (12mths) + $600 (2 semesters)
劍鳴:$3480 (11mths), no need to buy uniform
(未計新年度學費調整)

我這樣想可以嗎?還有其他意見?

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-3-29 23:26 發表


PN and K1's pm class has cantonese teacher + 1 net, then PTH and Eng only from k2 on.

作者: centreaven    時間: 10-3-29 23:49

yes i will consider that too..... I wonder why LH takes 12 months installment????

原帖由 jantwe02 於 10-3-29 23:37 發表
如果她們在各方面都差不多,那我考慮的就是她們的收費.
學之園:$3700 (12mths) + $600 (2 semesters)
劍鳴:$3480 (11mths), no need to buy uniform
(未計新年度學費調整)

我這樣想可以嗎?還有其他意見?

...

作者: MyMary    時間: 10-3-30 00:25

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-3-29 23:26 發表


PN and K1's pm class has cantonese teacher + 1 net, then PTH and Eng only from k2 on.



Perhaps they changed the programme this year? I called KM this morning, admin said for p.m. class, it is actually International Class where the teacher in charged is NET and a.m. class is Chinese/English class where the teacher in charged in a local teacher. Both a.m. and p.m classes have 2 lessons of Mandarin Class each week.
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-30 00:35

原帖由 centreaven 於 10-3-29 23:36 發表
elmolly

Thank you for your info. Very helpful.
but when you say:
LH比KM優勝既地方係語言應該比km出色
what does it mean..????  Many people tell me the English level at KM is better.

also,  what is the ...


all classes in LH has a NET, which KM only has it for pm class, for am class, the NET will stay for around an hour, which is very different between the two. I'm not saying the English at KM is not good, just LH maybe better as kids get more exposure.

around 70% of existing get offer for k1 in the first round (Nov), all the rest is on waiting list. however, as many students will leave for other schools, I think there is very good chance that the waiting list can get a seat.
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-30 00:38

原帖由 jantwe02 於 10-3-29 23:37 發表
如果她們在各方面都差不多,那我考慮的就是她們的收費.
學之園:$3700 (12mths) + $600 (2 semesters)
劍鳴:$3480 (11mths), no need to buy uniform
(未計新年度學費調整)

我這樣想可以嗎?還有其他意見?

...


我舊年問過LH, 佢地8月中就開學, 暑假只有兩星期左右, 所以收12個月學費, 應該亦都係因為早開學所以唔in8月尾出世既小朋友
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-30 00:42

原帖由 MyMary 於 10-3-30 00:25 發表



Perhaps they changed the programme this year? I called KM this morning, admin said for p.m. class, it is actually International Class where the teacher in charged is NET and a.m. class is Chinese/E ...


this is what's going on this year. KM said the cirriculum is same for am and pm just pm has NET for all 3 hours. Need to bear in mandarin and English class starts from k2, only NET and cantonese teacher from pn to k1 for pm class.
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-3-30 09:49

我都係有KM & LH pm offer (and waiting for Victoria's result). 我會take LH offer.
作者: brrbaby2007    時間: 10-3-30 11:31

emolly, 小曳人,想請教吓KM d 老師會唔會偏心架?

話時話我真係對KM interview有意見。果日要我地等左
o甘耐我當係admin問題。但in果時,特別係跳舞果part,c6話老師失驚冇神播左15秒唔夠又拆既歌,個個未知咩就完,好彩我寶貝係唔係都勁歌熱舞。到過tunnel時,我地讓左個疑似細B行先,佢行都唔識行超慢地爬過去,我寶貝諗住line up雙手放后企中間偏過一點,點知慢b爬完有2條友占隊,第一個占友過完第2個占友又要過,寶貝終於忍唔住走入個tunnel,但比老師stop。c6話d老師o甘求奇又唔搞清楚反映d人唔細心,第日都唔知點對我寶貝。
作者: 小曳人    時間: 10-3-30 11:54

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-3-30 11:31 發表
emolly, 小曳人,想請教吓KM d 老師會唔會偏心架?


我唔清楚老師有無偏心
不過偏心係人之常情喎~

我只可以講: 你有乜想知, 有乜要求, 係歡迎打俾老師嘅, 佢地都好樂意幫手
so far, 家長對老師嘅評價都好好~
至於面試時大家嘅表現(包括老師).. 咁亂, 咁多人, 都好難expect有d乜良好表現啦!
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-3-30 12:30

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-3-30 11:31 發表
emolly, 小曳人,想請教吓KM d 老師會唔會偏心架?

話時話我真係對KM interview有意見。果日要我地等左
o甘耐我當係admin問題。但in果時,特別係跳舞果part,c6話老師失驚冇神播左15秒唔夠又拆既歌,個個未知咩就完,好彩我寶貝 ...


interview果日好難作準, 可以係老師想睇下你小朋友有無耐性? 老實講, 我舊年in完都唔鍾意, 覺得d老師面無笑容. 不過肯定學校公平, 因為我個女舊年係衰到連tunnel都唔肯過, 最後老師攞起左頂舊block叫我拖佢過, 但係無因為咁而唔收佢.

不過返左學又好ok, 我唔覺老師偏心(不過有個別喜好都唔奇, 始終係人), 就算有d同學仔k1 on waiting list, 都無聽過老師特別對佢地差. 老師好儘責, 有時有d行為上既問題攪唔掂, 同老師講完佢都會上心幫我教好小朋友, 呢點我好欣賞.
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-3-31 19:13

或者another reference你可以參考係去教育局網頁compare一下佢地的師資, 師生比例...etc....
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-3-31 20:50

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-3-29 23:25 發表
LH比KM優勝既地方係語言應該比km出色

我又唔覺wor, KM既中英文水平都幾高. 可能英文未必有St Cat, Victoria or HKPS 咁好, 但一定唔會差過LH.
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-3-31 22:52

但係LH每班都有NET做班主任, 而且N班已開始教phonics(Letterland, 好多人俾$都要出去學但LH N班已教)...KM am都好似冇NET gar bor??

原帖由 kenzo 於 10-3-31 20:50 發表

我又唔覺wor, KM既中英文水平都幾高. 可能英文未必有St Cat, Victoria or HKPS 咁好, 但一定唔會差過LH.

作者: kitmantsoi    時間: 10-4-1 10:46

兩間都係好學校, 入邊間都好la.
有邊個家長K1唔試下考其它kinder, KM&LH咁難考都考到, BB甘強去邊都得la.
作者: pingu_k    時間: 10-4-1 16:10

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-3-30 12:30 發表


interview果日好難作準, 可以係老師想睇下你小朋友有無耐性? 老實講, 我舊年in完都唔鍾意, 覺得d老師面無笑容. 不過肯定學校公平, 因為我個女舊年係衰到連tunnel都唔肯過, 最後老師攞起左頂舊block叫我拖佢過, 但 ...


"不過肯定學校公平, 因為我個女舊年係衰到連tunnel都唔肯過, 最後老師攞起左頂舊block叫我拖佢過, 但係無因為咁而唔收佢"-->咁你覺得點解最後會收你女女呢?佢係咪大女?

其實得幾分鐘仲要咁樣既形式見,除非表現好差,如果吾係,真係吾知佢點選!
作者: mylee6    時間: 10-4-1 17:33

Not every class has net as class teacher.
You know net teacher is much expensive than local

Quote:
但係LH每班都有NET做班主任, 而且N班已開始教phonics(Letterland, 好多人俾$都要出去學但LH N班已教)...KM am都好似冇NET gar bor??
作者: elmolly    時間: 10-4-2 00:05

原帖由 pingu_k 於 10-4-1 16:10 發表


"不過肯定學校公平, 因為我個女舊年係衰到連tunnel都唔肯過, 最後老師http://das.baby-kingdom.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=37&bannerid=109&cb=11224479&n=a136fd19攞起左頂舊block叫我拖佢過, 但係無因為咁 ...


我都好想知學校取錄小朋友既條件, 不過無從稽考! 無錯係大女, 不過06年尾同埋07年頭既小朋友都有唔少, 應該唔係取錄既主要因數.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-2 01:39

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-3-31 22:52 發表
但係LH每班都有NET做班主任, 而且N班已開始教phonics(Letterland, 好多人俾$都要出去學但LH N班已教)...KM am都好似冇NET gar bor??



KM am都係NET, 只不過佢唔係班主任. KM都有Phonics, 不過K1先開始.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-2 01:42

KM同LH既另外一個分別就係KM既Xmas, New Year, 同 Easter假會少D.
作者: DaisyDaisy    時間: 10-4-3 17:18

OH!  This may not be a strength in fact.  

原帖由 kenzo 於 10-4-2 01:42 發表
KM同LH既另外一個分別就係KM既Xmas, New Year, 同 Easter假會少D.

作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-4-4 23:32

o..i see. 請問每日NET的時間是多少? K1 Phonics係用邊套gar ner? Thanks.

原帖由 kenzo 於 10-4-2 01:39 發表


KM am都係NET, 只不過佢唔係班主任. KM都有Phonics, 不過K1先開始.

作者: mylee6    時間: 10-4-4 23:48     標題: 回覆 3# kenzo 的文章

Every school should have the same no of school days based on Educational Bureau guidelines.
If KM really has shorter Xmas & Easter, KM may start summer holiday later.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-5 01:16

KM's summer holiday is from 19July to 31Aug.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-5 01:18

原帖由 DaisyDaisy 於 10-4-3 17:18 發表
OH!  This may not be a strength in fact.  



I didn't say it is a strength. I am just pointing out the difference between KM and LH.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-5 01:21

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-4-4 23:32 發表
o..i see. 請問每日NET的時間是多少? K1 Phonics係用邊套gar ner? Thanks.



我都唔知一堂英文上幾耐. Phonics 用 Longman既 Phonics for Kids. 我覺得同Letterland 幾似.
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-4-6 00:31

I see..thanks....Longman的 Phonics for Kids係唔係指香港local 出, 中英夾雜那套? 如果係就完全同Letterland差好遠....Letterland 係套世界流行的phonics教材(所以會見好多learning centre都會開班教), 一d英文好的學校如York,LH都會用...另一套好出名的Phonics係Jolly Phonics, (好似維記用緊)...而seems本地出那套Phonics for Kids d音就好似a bit local....(聽過那隻cd)...不過唔知係唔係指緊那套呢...
作者: wendychiu301    時間: 10-4-6 00:40

I think I will choose LH rather KM. Because I like am session more than pm session.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-6 23:24

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-4-6 00:31 發表
I see..thanks....Longman的 Phonics for Kids係唔係指香港local 出, 中英夾雜那套? 如果係就完全同Letterland差好遠....Letterland 係套世界流行的phonics教材(所以會見好多learning centre都會開班教), 一d英文好 ...


Letterland 同 Longman教Letter Sound既方法係幾似. 兩者都係人物化每一個英文字母, 讓小朋友容易掌握英文字母的發音. 如Letterland用Annie Apple, Clever Cat, Eddy Elephant. Longman就用Annie Ant, Candy Cat, Eddie Elephant. So far我又冇見到有中文字係Phonics for Kids度出現過, 點解你會話佢中英夾雜呢?

我係自己教我個仔Phonics, Jolly Phonics, Letterland, Hooked on Phonics, 台灣既Phonics Kids我都有. 其實學Letter Sound用邊套教材真係冇咩所謂, 用邊套都一定學到. 反而blending教得最好係Hooked on Phonics, 佢用既方法係最systematic.
作者: kenzo    時間: 10-4-6 23:26

原帖由 mylee6 於 10-4-4 23:48 發表
Every school should have the same no of school days based on Educational Bureau guidelines.
If KM really has shorter Xmas & Easter, KM may start summer holiday later.


Isn't the guideline for primary and secondary school only?
作者: pingu_k    時間: 10-4-9 01:36

原帖由 kenzo 於 10-4-6 23:24 發表


Letterland 同 Longman教Letter Sound既方法係幾似. 兩者都係人物化每一個英文字母, 讓小朋友容易掌握英文字母的發音. 如Letterland用Annie Apple, Clever Cat, Eddy Elephant. Longman就用Annie Ant, Candy Cat,  ...


想請教一下自己應該點教好?係咪同佢一齊睇&讀教材就得?

幾大可以開始學?呢d教材大概幾$??其實係咪好多KG都會有教?tks!
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-4-9 11:02

我都好同意Hook on Phonics 好好唔知係唔係因為美國出所以少學校用不過坊間就好多Hook On Phonics….我係在朋友家中看過Phonics for KidsVCD見佢中英夾雜同埋d發音就…. 我都同意學phonics一套教材都夠, 不過就真係要選套好lor …我覺得呢家野真係搵番英國/美國出的會好d, 出面多人開班自有原因我都在書局看過你所講的台灣Phonics Kids demo….d發音真係嚇死人你聽下佢讀elephant呢個字就知好奇一問, 你小朋友係唔係讀緊KM? 如果係點解重要找咁多phonics教材, KM已有教Phonics for Kid…?

Hee hee…sorry樓主其實我知道自己已離題….當初其實係想share 自己選LH 唔選 KM (兩間都係pm offer)其中一個原因係LHpn班已有Letterland….不過我都好enjoy同其他媽咪互相分享經驗


原帖由 kenzo 於 10-4-6 23:24 發表


Letterland 同 Longman教Letter Sound既方法係幾似. 兩者都係人物化每一個英文字母, 讓小朋友容易掌握英文字母的發音. 如Letterland用Annie Apple, Clever Cat, Eddy Elephant. Longman就用Annie Ant, Candy Cat,  ...

作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-4-9 11:08

By the way, 好似之前見有KM 媽咪話上午班係local teacher 教英文....咁其實即係一d英文堂 local 人教有d NET教??  而下午班就全NET教? 可唔可以share 下? Thanks a lot.

原帖由 kenzo 於 10-4-2 01:39 發表


KM am都係NET, 只不過佢唔係班主任. KM都有Phonics, 不過K1先開始.

作者: elmolly    時間: 10-4-9 11:22

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-4-9 11:08 發表
By the way, 好似之前見有KM 媽咪話上午班係local teacher 教英文....咁其實即係一d英文堂 local 人教有d NET教??  而下午班就全NET教? 可唔可以share 下? Thanks a lot.

...


am都係net教英文, 每日大概一個鐘左右. 其他時間就係兩位本地老師負責.
作者: EggEgg08    時間: 10-4-9 11:37

ic...thanks....咁同pm班有咩分別呢? Thanks.

原帖由 elmolly 於 10-4-9 11:22 發表


am都係net教英文, 每日大概一個鐘左右. 其他時間就係兩位本地老師負責.

作者: Smallpigbb    時間: 10-4-9 12:37

原帖由 EggEgg08 於 10-4-9 11:37 發表
ic...thanks....咁同pm班有咩分別呢? Thanks.


pm班個NET 咪唔會走開囉,全程o係班房,仲有如果讀得pm class多數係NET老師同父母聯絡。
作者: mousegirl    時間: 10-4-22 19:26

如果小朋友比較活躍,但我想入傳統學校,睇website上小學KM好似好過LH,但最近聽好多朋友話KM近一兩年質素差咗,有錯請更正,如有得罪請見諒

有無家長可以分享呢兩間學校今年考私校同直資情況,我只想為女兒安排合適學校

到底你哋會選LH pm or KM pm?




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