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作者: People3    時間: 10-6-14 14:31     標題: ESF Primary or RC ???

If kid got both offers, which one will you take.  Why??  So headache...
作者: oooray    時間: 10-6-14 15:23

原帖由 People3 於 10-6-14 14:31 發表
If kid got both offers, which one will you take.  Why??  So headache...

Headache?
Take 2 Panadol Extra and then take a nap.
When you wake up, choose the one suit your child and u also feel comfortable with.
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-14 16:10

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作者: Mighty    時間: 10-6-14 20:34

Dont know if you are comparing SJS and RC but definitely RC is better on the 'hardware' side.  SJS has a longer history and is more traditional than RC so nothing should really go wrong.  But then RC will be a more adverturous version and might be good for some.  Although SJS has the biggest chinese poplulation among any other ESF schools, I seldom hear its children talking in Cantonese (or any other languages).  The school does provide a natural environment for children to communicate in English.  As others have said...pick one that you are most comfortable with.  I had experience with teachers from both schools and they were equally friendly and professional.. that IS for sure!!  I had the same choice 2 years ago and I chose ESF as the RC campus was a bit 'too' big for my daughter.  Good luck.

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作者: lsftsang    時間: 10-6-15 10:53

Knowing that ESF primary has so many campuses (about 9 campuses) in addition to PIS, I see they should have enough capacity to absorb all the ESF kinder graduates.  How come I heard many parents complain that their kids graduating from ESF kinders may not be able to get a seat in its primary?
作者: Mighty    時間: 10-6-15 11:25

Well simply because ESF schools have to accept kids from elsewhere as well.
作者: nintendo    時間: 10-6-15 11:26

原帖由 lsftsang 於 10-6-15 10:53 發表
Knowing that ESF primary has so many campuses (about 9 campuses) in addition to PIS, I see they should have enough capacity to absorb all the ESF kinder graduates.  How come I heard many parents compl ...


The reason is simple.
ESF/PIS only grant you priority to the interview. You HAVE TO PASS THE INTERVIEW.
作者: mamachristy    時間: 10-6-15 17:56

So that means I might not get into ESF primary schools even I am graduated from ESF kindergarten?

Do you know are there any extra points will be added if they are ESF kindergarten graduates? Thanks!!!




原帖由 nintendo 於 10-6-15 11:26 發表


The reason is simple.
ESF/PIS only grant you priority to the interview. You HAVE TO PASS THE INTERVIEW.

作者: almom    時間: 10-6-15 18:27

原帖由 mamachristy 於 10-6-15 17:56 發表
So that means I might not get into ESF primary schools even I am graduated from ESF kindergarten?

Do you know are there any extra points will be added if they are ESF kindergarten graduates? Thanks! ...




ESF 幼稚園從來都唔係直升 ESF 小學, 係要面試的.
如果唔 PASS 面試, 當然唔會入到 ESF 小學.
作者: lottieclee    時間: 10-6-15 20:22

原帖由 mamachristy 於 10-6-15 17:56 發表
So that means I might not get into ESF primary schools even I am graduated from ESF kindergarten?

Do you know are there any extra points will be added if they are ESF kindergarten graduates? Thanks! ...


Just priority interview.  English proficiency, maturity, social skills are evaluated equally amongst candidates.  Of course, there's categories and priority within categories.
作者: mamachristy    時間: 10-6-18 22:50

I see. Thank you!


原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-6-15 20:22 發表


Just priority interview.  English proficiency, maturity, social skills are evaluated equally amongst candidates.  Of course, there's categories and priority within categories.

作者: mamachristy    時間: 10-6-18 22:52

BTW, how's the interview? is it difficult? what is it about? Thanks.




原帖由 mamachristy 於 10-6-18 22:50 發表
I see. Thank you!



作者: BAF    時間: 10-6-19 01:46

My personal experience not with RC or SJS is the child will be interviewed by 2 teaching staff and asked to draw something and talk about the drawing.  Responsiveness of the child and proficiency in English will be observed.  Creativity enhances chances. Priority will be given according to category and if the child has sibling at school.   

原帖由 mamachristy 於 10-6-18 22:52 發表
BTW, how's the interview? is it difficult? what is it about? Thanks.

作者: ALAL    時間: 10-6-19 06:56

my fiend's son switched from RC to Beacon HIll years ago.

原帖由 People3 於 10-6-14 14:31 發表
If kid got both offers, which one will you take.  Why??  So headache...

作者: People3    時間: 10-6-20 23:04

Why your friend had that decision?  Is there any problem  with RC?

people3


原帖由 ALAL 於 10-6-19 06:56 發表
my fiend's son switched from RC to Beacon HIll years ago.

作者: ALAL    時間: 10-6-21 20:55

my friend's son is in secondary section now. At that time, her mum told me that teachers in Beacon Hill are more experienced than in RC.


原帖由 People3 於 10-6-20 23:04 發表
Why your friend had that decision?  Is there any problem  with RC?

people3

作者: chingyu    時間: 10-6-22 17:04

I heard a few declined the offer of Shatin Junior/Beacon Hill and stayed in RC.  Meanwhile, I also heard a few switched to other IS.  It depends on oneself.

原帖由 People3 於 10-6-20 23:04 發表
Why your friend had that decision?  Is there any problem  with RC?

people3



作者: misskwokwok    時間: 10-6-24 11:22

hi people 3,

congratulations to you!  I hope I can have this kind of headache later...
Well, it's difficult.  But I think you should visit them and see which one you feel more comfort with.  I think different parent will pick different school, so pick the one you think it suits your kid more! and good luck on your choice

Could you share which kinder is your kid studying, esf kinder?  and do you mean SJS? well, do you know SJS picks students from?
thank you so much!! I'm headache, too... help...
作者: c200    時間: 10-6-24 12:10

I also want to have this headache later...I really want to put my son into SJS as well.

Which Kinder is your son studying now?
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-24 12:43

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作者: c200    時間: 10-6-24 14:29

ruth_esther
ruth_esther,
May I know which kinder is your kid studying?
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-24 16:10

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作者: c200    時間: 10-6-24 17:01

Thanks,
ruth_esther

That's why you don't have chance to interview yet
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-24 17:09

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作者: c200    時間: 10-6-24 18:47

the main problem is you are not studying in real international kinder.efs prefer students from real inter kinder

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作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-24 23:16

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作者: HaydenNg    時間: 10-6-24 23:30

ruth_esther,

mind to tell me which KG your girl goes to, through PM.  Thanks.

原帖由 ruth_esther 於 10-6-24 23:16 發表
Reply to c200:
Yeah, as I heard from my friends and the forum, both ESF and RC/DC may prefer kids from ESF kindys.  Indeed, we received letters from both ESF and RC that preference were not given to h ...

作者: steamball    時間: 10-6-25 07:40

Hi
Hayden also in IS?
作者: c200    時間: 10-6-25 10:07

:And later I talked to a parent-volunteer for more info, she told me that, as she knows, they have only very few students from non-ESF, almost rare.


But I also heard that many students form ESF kinder can not get into ESF P1...you know the seats in ESF P1 are much more than ESF kinder...

so confuse....

My son will study N1 in TT next year, but I am thinking which kinder I should choose after N1...
My choice is ICS, TT or ESF WKS kinder...

My P1 choise is first SJS and second RC

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作者: Darth    時間: 10-6-25 10:35

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 10:07 發表
you know the seats in ESF P1 are much more than ESF kinder...

so confuse....



No confusion at all.

ESF primary (and PIS too) need to interview the students. There are always ESF kindergarten children that DID NOT pass the interview.

Even if there are 10000 seats in primary, you are not up to the standard, you will not get a place. Fair enough?

For your information, there are always ESF kindergarten children that get NO OFFER from ESF (and PIS); and at the same time, there are children from local kindergarten that got acceptance offered.




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作者: c200    時間: 10-6-25 10:49

Darth
I can understating pass the interview is the most important point.
But during the interview, do you think students come from ESF kinder will have extra point? I mean does ESF P1 prefer students from ESF kinder or no different at all?
This answer can affect my final decision on the kinder selection, as I mentioned before my kinder choice is TT, ICS and ESF WKS…actually we don’t really like ESF WKS at all…if ESF WKS doesn’t have any advantage during the interview, then I can make up my decision…

Can you give me more advice?

So the following sentence is not the correct? And later I talked to a parent-volunteer for more info, she told me that, as she knows, they have only very few students from non-ESF, almost rare.
作者: lsftsang    時間: 10-6-25 11:00

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 10:49 發表
Darth
I can understating pass the interview is the most important point.
But during the interview, do you think students come from ESF kinder will have extra point? I mean does ESF P1 prefer students  ...


Could you share why you don't like ESF WKS at all? I am still thinking whether I will apply my kid to ESF TY or WKS.  Thanks.
作者: c200    時間: 10-6-25 11:27

Isftsang:
I have read a lot of bad comments about ESF WKS at this forum.
作者: oooray    時間: 10-6-25 11:39

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 10:49 發表
Darth
I can understating pass the interview is the most important point.
But during the interview, do you think students come from ESF kinder will have extra point? I mean does ESF P1 prefer students  ...


I'm afraid u still have a little bit mixed up regarding ESF/PIS admission procedures.

ESF kinder students do have a priority for an interview offer;

Once u are chosen for interview, I don't think ESF kinder students will have any advantages over other non-ESF kinder students.

The only adantage of being a ESF kinder students are that u will have a very high chance (almost secure) of getting  "interview" offer from ESF primary and PIS.

The problem of being non-ESF kinder students (especially u are Cat. 2 w/o siblings) is that u will have a lower chance for getting an interview; no matter how smart u are.

Any extra point for ESF students during inteview? Who knows? even if i send a email to the primary teacher who is responsible for interview, to be politically correctness, her answer must be "No".
作者: c200    時間: 10-6-25 12:23

The problem of being non-ESF kinder students (especially u are Cat. 2 w/o siblings) is that u will have a lower chance for getting an interview; no matter how smart u are.


I fully understanding about the ESF P1 interview Policy.
Many people had mentioned this policy in this forum before, but how come the total % of ESF kinder students(Cat2) can get into ESF P1 is not that high?I really can't understanding at all...or I have the wrong info?Please correct me....
作者: steamball    時間: 10-6-25 12:29

"the total % of ESF kinder students(Cat2) can get into ESF P1 is not that high?"

becuase too many Cat 1, u know even cat 1 non esf student, don't have chance for interview.
作者: oooray    時間: 10-6-25 13:07

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 12:23 發表
The problem of being non-ESF kinder students (especially u are Cat. 2 w/o siblings) is that u will have a lower chance for getting an interview; no matter how smart u are.


I fully understanding abou ...

It is a riddle.
I only know that staying inside ESF kinder can almost secure (or have a higher chance nowadays) interview offer for ESF primary and PIS.
Whether u can pass or not depend on your performance.
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-25 13:26

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作者: oooray    時間: 10-6-25 13:37

原帖由 ruth_esther 於 10-6-25 13:26 發表
sorry to interrupt: -_-"
just to state:
1."later I talked to a parent-volunteer for more info, she told me that, as she knows, they have only very few students from non-ESF, almost rare." It is exactl ...

In RC, through my informal gossiping throughout the year, 09/10 Year 1 non-ESF kinder children are not RARE.
In popular ESF primary like KJS/BHS/SJS, children from Cat. 2 non-ESF kinder should be rare.
Regarding 10/11 situation, any parents share?
作者: ruth_esther    時間: 10-6-25 14:02

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作者: oooray    時間: 10-6-25 14:11

原帖由 ruth_esther 於 10-6-25 14:02 發表
THANKS! ^o^


Commencing Aug, u can do a similar survey in 2010/11 Year 1 classes and share...
作者: c200    時間: 10-6-25 14:46

OH, that means I need to choose ESF WKS for my first choice rather than TT...
Thanks for the useful info
作者: tcbobo    時間: 10-6-25 16:03

今年sjs收的150學生, siblings約佔三分之一, esf kinder 學生約佔三分之一, 中國藉(包括香港人)約佔四分之一

三月時老師說 in 咗 200人, 但也選到不到想收的150學生 (估計當時最少仍有20個位)

[如果我有聽錯或記錯, 請指正]
作者: Darth    時間: 10-6-26 23:43

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 10:49 發表
Darth
I can understating pass the interview is the most important point.
But during the interview, do you think students come from ESF kinder will have extra point? I mean does ESF P1 prefer students  ...



I think I (and others) have already explained the situation very clearly. Reread all messages.

The fact is simple and have repeatedly been stressed.

Being ESF kindergarten will ONLY give your priority to interview. ESF primary does not have the obligation to take all ESF kindergarten children.

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作者: AquaKirin    時間: 11-12-8 08:44

Very informative stuffs above.  Thank you.  But would all those applied at least get a chance to interview?

Thanks again!
作者: Mcdangi    時間: 11-12-8 10:02

C200, dont worry, ESF WKS is a very good school, my girl is studying there, she loves the school much and can't wait to go to school everyday. She makes alot of friends, the teachers are good, she learns very fast through activities.
The curriculum in ESF kinder is totally different from the local international stream one, which is well-prepared for the IB primary.
作者: lottieclee    時間: 11-12-8 10:10     標題: 回復 45# AquaKirin 的帖子

Are you asking about ESF primary or RC?

For RC this year, there are 800 applicants for about 200 spaces.  

For both RC and ESF, they are obliged to offer interviews to those who have priority to interview first (e.g. ESF kindergarten and other priorities as listed on the admission website).  First round interview starts in January.  Interviews continue until all spaces are filled.
作者: c200    時間: 11-12-8 10:47

Thank you Mcdangi

My child is going to play visit tomorrow
作者: lottieclee    時間: 11-12-13 15:02

原帖由 c200 於 10-6-25 14:46 發表
OH, that means I need to choose ESF WKS for my first choice rather than TT...
Thanks for the useful info


I think you made the right choice.  In my opinion, ESF WKS is far better than TT.  We are in an ESF kindy now and my son was in TT nursery.  TT seems to be getting more expensive and from less impressive.




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