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作者: munce 時間: 10-8-18 17:44 標題: DGJS really consider parents' occupation?
Hello,
Someone said Mrs Dai will consider the applicant's parents' occupation? Is that true?
She also prefers housewife?
For my case, my husband has resigned from his job for some time and is a full time dad now, taking care of my daughter's homework, revision, ECA, etc.
You think Mrs Dai will consider a Full time Dad than a full time housewife?
Appreciate your feedback!
作者: Gerard 時間: 10-8-19 21:27 標題: 回覆 1# munce 的文章
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作者: 雙子媽媽 時間: 10-8-20 11:06
我同事個女今年9月會入讀DG小一, 佢唔係全職housewife. 不過佢係公司律師, 至於佢老公係咩職業, 我就唔知啦
作者: kikispider 時間: 10-8-20 11:25
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作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-20 12:45
But just why DGJS like full-time mum or non full-time mum,
is it full-time mum = better coverage of children
or
not-full time mum = not better coverage of children.
I just wonder they just look at children's interview performance.
Also, is full-time dad not better? If so, is it sex discrimination...
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-8-20 14:13
DGJS really consider parents' occupation.
作者: Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa 時間: 10-8-20 14:52
人地嘅遊戲規則，妳唔鍾意嘅可以唔報，私校嗎?喜歡嘅只有跟隨。Full-time housewife 絕對有優勢，所以我知有D 媽咪做緊野都寫話自已係Full-time housewife，但要同小朋友夾口功，我就覺得唔好啦。聽聞Mrs. Dai唔鍾意舊年1st interview嘅方式今年可能還原以前嘅方式，即係1st interview每個小朋友都要經佢見一見。
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-20 14:54
So, is it the best if Dad is lawyer, doctor, professor or banker and Mum is full-time..
But how about Eason Chan's case?
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-8-20 14:13 發表 
DGJS really consider parents' occupation.
作者: munce 時間: 10-8-20 14:58
For my case, I am a medical professional whereas my husband is a full time Dad (he enjoys taking care of the kids' homework, exams, extra curricular activities, and he also enjoys doing investment on his own). So how should I state in the application form?
You think Mrs Dai will "buy" our case?
作者: happycj 時間: 10-8-20 15:05
I think at the end, it is the girls' performance that count, no matter which occupations Dad/Mom are at. Occupation is just another reference of whether the parents can continue to financially support the girl in the years to come.
原帖由 munce 於 10-8-20 14:58 發表
For my case, I am a medical professional whereas my husband is a full time Dad (he enjoys taking care of the kids' homework, exams, extra curricular activities, and he also enjoys doing investment on ...
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-20 15:45
I am not sure if DGJS is open enough to accept full time Dad whereas it is quite acceptable in overseas.
原帖由 munce 於 10-8-20 14:58 發表
For my case, I am a medical professional whereas my husband is a full time Dad (he enjoys taking care of the kids' homework, exams, extra curricular activities, and he also enjoys doing investment on ...
作者: daisy17772 時間: 10-8-20 16:46
Parent's professions are definitely a pt for consideration.... but provided that the girl's performance is acceptable to Mrs Dai!
Heard that last year she prefers lawyers, doctors..
作者: yypapa 時間: 10-8-20 16:47
munce,
your husband is a "freelance investment specialist". 
If you state so in the application form, be sure to train your girl to answer the same if she is ever asked about his father's occupation. In any case, I don't think this topic will be touched in depth during the interview. The performance of the girl is the key factor, not parents' job.
原帖由 munce 於 10-8-20 14:58 發表
For my case, I am a medical professional whereas my husband is a full time Dad (he enjoys taking care of the kids' homework, exams, extra curricular activities, and he also enjoys doing investment on ...
作者: Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa 時間: 10-8-20 18:01
有D真係好誇張，舊年我朋友in DGJS (2nd In) 時見有個Mami著住套上Court嘅大狀衫去In，唔知係唔夠時間換衫定特登著去。相對Eason同任達华就casul好多。
原帖由 daisy17772 於 10-8-20 16:46 發表
Parent's professions are definitely a pt for consideration.... but provided that the girl's performance is acceptable to Mrs Dai!
Heard that last year she prefers lawyers, doctors..
作者: JKTL 時間: 10-8-20 20:43
我也有聽過這個說法
講真,我都希望第一次就由校長揀學生
原帖由 Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa 於 10-8-20 14:52 發表
人地嘅遊戲規則，妳唔鍾意嘅可以唔報，私校嗎?喜歡嘅只有跟隨。Full-time housewife 絕對有優勢，所以我知有D 媽咪做緊野都寫話自已係Full-time housewife，但要同小朋友夾口功，我就覺得唔好啦。聽聞Mrs. Dai唔鍾意舊年1st interview嘅方式今年可能還原以前嘅方式，即係1st interview每個小朋友都要經佢見一見。
作者: daisy17772 時間: 10-8-20 21:18
原帖由 Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa 於 10-8-20 14:52 發表
人地嘅遊戲規則，妳唔鍾意嘅可以唔報，私校嗎?喜歡嘅只有跟隨。Full-time housewife 絕對有優勢，所以我知有D 媽咪做緊野都寫話自已係Full-time housewife，但要同小朋友夾口功，我就覺得唔好啦。聽聞Mrs. Dai唔鍾意舊年1st in ...
Yes did hear about getting back to square 1 this year as Mrs Dai didn't feel good about the quality of the students selected by her teachers in the 1st round.
For famous celebrities, I think they really wanted to play down themselves as it would rather be an adverse effect if they showed off.
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-20 22:59
Do you think stating "freelance investment specialist" is really a joke or possible?原帖由 yypapa 於 10-8-20 16:47 發表
munce,
your husband is a "freelance investment specialist". If you state so in the application form, be sure to train your girl to answer the same if she is ever asked about his father's o ...
作者: munce 時間: 10-8-22 06:54
No la, I won't state Freelance Investment Specialist.
Just simply Freelancer (IT), as many years ago he helped people to build homepage/website. His last job was also related to IT. I taught my daughter to say "Daddy works at home via the computer when she goes to school in the afternoon".
Will that do?
作者: yypapa 時間: 10-8-22 11:08
I guess "Self-employed (IT related)" would also be appropriate.
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-22 22:17 標題: 回復 18# munce 的帖子
But if stating Freelancer (IT), do you really want to tell people he is part-time dad or full-time dad?
作者: munce 時間: 10-8-23 00:03
Hi Ving,
What's your opinion?
Don't wanna to hide as Mrs Dai may ask my daughter what is Dad's job, right?
Since Mrs Dai prefers a full time mum, can a full time dad somehow equivalent to a full time mum?
he follows up all my daughter's homework, tests, and got all "A". Also he takes her to all activities classes himself, not even 1 time ask the maid to bring my daughter.
His trading hours = time when my daughter is at school.
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-23 00:47 標題: 回復 21# munce 的帖子
Hi Munce,
Functionally, sometimes I even think that full-time dad might be better than full-time mum as dad has more energy to take care all the details of the children. But again, whether the school is open enough to accept is another issue.
If you are telling daughter that dad job is freelance "it specialist", then do you mean that status of freelance "it specialist" is better than freelance "investment specialist" and better than full-time dad. Also, if you are telling people he is freelance "....", then are you saying that the rest of his time is taking care the girl. I think you need to have a complete picture first.
Is your husband taking care one kid or more and for how long? I think he is really great and at the end. If I were you, I will check with your husband and see how he thought to show respect. For example, whether he is comfortable with the name of freelance "it specialist" than "full-time dad" or vice-versa
作者: happycj 時間: 10-8-23 14:43 標題: 回復 18# munce 的帖子
Other than "self-employed", you may add words like "SOHO (home office), project-based, contract..." and show your husband's parallel duties of "breadwinning and hometaking". This gives a more positive impression.
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-23 16:20
Is it possible to mention parent education?
作者: magiccandy 時間: 10-8-23 19:34
I feel that they focussed more on the girl's performance at the 1st interview last year. My husband is a doctor yet my girl did not have 2nd interview. Parents' occupation may only count when there's 2nd interview.
作者: Christi 時間: 10-8-24 01:24
我是路人甲.
我很欣賞full time dad這個concept,不明白為什麼要用其他一些terms去美化/掩飾...well,可惜我不是DGJS校長,哈哈哈... !
心嗰句,如果DGJS不能接受full time dad instead of full time mum,那麼就好像不夠open了. 當然,想入,只好接受這項遊戲規則.
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-24 15:47
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作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-24 22:20
Can the portfolio also mention parent qualification? Will it be possible and useful?
原帖由 miffy 於 10-8-24 15:47 發表
你在portfolio有無寫職業??
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-26 14:03
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作者: 小天使kiki 時間: 10-8-27 00:19
我覺得唔關事，我識好多醫生個女都入唔到，我自己哥哥普通中五畢業，呀嫂係內地人，呀仔一樣考到st cat-CCKG-DBS,條路順到不得了，我覺得最重要都係面試表現
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-27 09:36
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作者: jbettis32 時間: 10-8-27 10:31
唉, 會唔會係大家只睇到表面, 唔明點解父母既職業咁重要呢?
一個小朋友面試時得5歲左右, 如果公平發展及成長情況下, 表達能力其實分別不大. 但係有PROFESSIONAL背景既父母明白教育既重要, "亦"可以提供足夠既金錢全面配合. (唔係其他父母唔明, 只係可能"花費"未能"配合"而已) 小朋友一出世就全英文交談, 一個月豪花$20,000以上外籍人士交談學習及其他專業興趣班培育(其中並不包括國際幼稚園既學費及雜費). 五歲面試時, 你認為校長能否分辨出來? 換位思考, 你係名校校長, 你會選擇那些學生?
君不見, 即使名星之後也是用"花費"完全配合其小朋友既學習成長? 和其他專業人士有何分別?
當然, 五歲時面試表現不一定完全準確, 可能只是表達能力或語文能力比較突出而已, 學習能力不一定超卓. 但又如何? 小二, 小三, 小四一大群有能力既其他名校插班生在排隊等待.
所以其實父母既職業填甚麼也不太重要, 只看之前"學前培訓"既成果吧~~~ 但當然, 兩個小朋友既表現差不多既情況之下, 當然一個全職父/母親, 另一個為PROFESSIONAL就當然有優勢了. 因為, 可以係私立名校就讀, 而父母其中一個全職照顧小朋友, 另一半也不可能入息太低吧?
當然, 凡事有例外, 不要只在全校找一兩個個別例子回應, 尤其是插班生. 不過, 也只是個人觀點而已.
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-27 12:53
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作者: amypekkle 時間: 10-8-27 16:09
原帖由 miffy 於 10-8-27 12:53 發表
男拔得百幾個位, 概然可以選擇富豪、高官、教授.......為甚要選一個咁普通??
選一個"普通", 沒有家底的小朋友, 我相信是因為那位小朋友的面試表現佳.
我都識一位朋友仔今年入讀DBSPD, 以我所知他都不是特別有家底. 我相信好多學校睇面試表現重於一切.
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-8-27 16:38
男拔: 我 fd 仔仔讀緊, 完全冇家底, 我相信因為他 interview時表現出眾. 不過佢的同學個個唔係小康就大富, 我睇得出佢有 d自卑.... 酒會要 千幾蚊一位, 朋友唔參加, 小朋友就好唔開心, 擺生日會擺左一年o者, 因為........ 唉.... 我知唔係一定要同人比, 但是做唔做到呢? 總之, 同人比較係好自然的....
所以 冇番咁上下, 真係要諗清楚, 唔係話有錢的小朋友會歧視, 而係怕小朋友自己同人比較...
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-27 16:48
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作者: traeh 時間: 10-8-27 19:11
我估學校揀小朋友，唔一定要有財有勢，但當然富豪都要有，唔係邊個捐間新校舍出來？但叻小朋友都一樣要，唔係又邊個幫佢攞獎同提高整體成績？如果小朋友面試表現出眾，家長只要無不良背景，行出來唔會好似出來"行"咁，正當人家其實都okay。
作者: hellomickey 時間: 10-8-27 21:03
我有個case想同大家分享:
我老公最近請了位Part time 文員,她有位8歲兒子,所以大家的話題便圍繞着名校面試,她對DBS的1st and 2nd interview非常有認識,但她兒子現只在普通屋邨小学就讀,我便以為她兒子面試失敗,甚知剛好相反,她竟然拒絕入讀!!!
細問原因下,她認為她倆夫婦只是中五畢業,又住公屋,根本沒法應付DBS的功課,学費及其他雜費對她來說,又實在沉重。
她坦白說,她兒子只是得把口(口甜舌滑),根本不是讀書材料,就算現在讀書成績都只是中下,故此唔讀DBS,絕不後悔。
可見DBS選人真是睇面試表現,不睇家底,公平公正，但考DBS時,家長自己已經自我審查,唔啱Level 唔去考,考到又唔去讀.造成名校好似只選有家底有背境的錯覺。
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-27 22:57
So again, back to parent's occupation, we have
1. Full time dad + Full time mum
2. Full time dad + professional mum
3. Professional dad + Full time mum
4. Professional dad + Professional mum
Then, what's will be the best combination? Any suggestion
作者: ysnmama 時間: 10-8-27 23:22
我也同意家長考這些數一數二的名校時. 已經會自我審查. 其實自己最清楚自己的家庭背景. 是否可以各方面也能配合. 是否那級數. 當中要包括金錢, 時間及子女的能力. 不是一兩年的事. 而是十年以上的事.
高等學府自然吸引富有人家, 專業人仕, 商家的子女等去考. 那麼收生比例上也自然傾向於這些背景. 一些二三線學校. 他們未必有興趣讓子女入讀. 變成收生比例傾向於一般家庭.
子女有能力也需家庭有能力全力配合才成事. 兩者也不能缺一.
.
原帖由 hellomickey 於 10-8-27 21:03 發表
我有個case想同大家分享:
我老公最近請了位Part time 文員,她有位8歲兒子,所以大家的話題便圍繞着名校面試,她對DBS的1st and 2nd interview非常有認識,但她兒子現只在普通屋邨小学就讀,我便以為她兒子面試失敗,甚知 ...
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-28 00:00
Just wonder if this situation is especially happen in DGJS and DBS.
I just wonder if they want to get rich and famous people son and daughter in, they can simply raise the school fee to a level so that only upper high class and rich people can afford. If so, I am really disappoint about HK education system as good govt, sub school is by counting marks and lucky draw and good DSS is counted by status and level of parents and not with children abilities...
So how about other schools like SPCC, is the situation so worse as well? If so, what good school is good for consideration. Please suggest
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-8-27 16:38 發表
男拔: 我 fd 仔仔讀緊, 完全冇家底, 我相信因為他 interview時表現出眾. 不過佢的同學個個唔係小康就大富, 我睇得出佢有 d自卑.... 酒會要 千幾蚊一位, 朋友唔參加, 小朋友就好唔開心, 擺生日會擺左一年o者, 因為. ...
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作者: ysnmama 時間: 10-8-28 10:02
何謂rich. 很難定義. 但每月學費已經$6000. 大部份家庭一定不會窮. 不過公務員有津貼或可申請學費減免. 但學校會選那些公務員家庭呢? 應該不是一般的.
原帖由 Ving 於 10-8-28 00:00 發表
Just wonder if this situation is especially happen in DGJS and DBS.
I just wonder if they want to get rich and famous people son and daughter in, they can simply raise the school fee to a level so th ...
作者: Johnny@Klnbay 時間: 10-8-28 11:31 標題: 回覆 4# Ving 的文章
spcc小學可能是有錢人多，中學收約一百多外校生，則以成績為先，我認識有幾個中學家長住公屋，做侍應，並非律師醫生！
反而DBS 和 DGJS大部份小學直升中學，外校生較小，非富則貴的多!
作者: JKTL 時間: 10-8-28 13:34
SPCC是有錢人多,但是這些人的成績也都很好,(SPCC並不是個個有錢的都取錄)
原帖由 Johnny@Klnbay 於 10-8-28 11:31 發表
spcc小學可能是有錢人多，中學收約一百多外校生，則以成績為先，我認識有幾個中學家長住公屋，做侍應，並非律師醫生！
反而DBS 和 DGJS大部份小學直升中學，外校生較小，非富則貴的多! ...
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作者: k.kung 時間: 10-8-28 14:11
當然不是個個有錢的都取錄, 而係有錢或家庭背景優良再加上成績好才取錄。 普通家庭是很難負擔每月小朋友的開支。 每月學費平均$6,000加上校巴, 午餐, 樂器, 補習............
保守估計每月平均用$10,000, 每年以10個月計, 讀12年要$1,200,000。 未計加學費和通脹。
如果有兩個小朋友讀, 12年使費已經可以買樓。
原帖由 JKTL 於 10-8-28 13:34 發表
SPCC是有錢人多,但是這些人的成績也都很好,(SPCC並不是個個有錢的都取錄)
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作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-28 15:24
So, is there any good DSS or private that is comparable to DBS, DGS, SPCC but not so require rich parents and money-oriented. Hope to be more focus on children's ability and performance rather than compare with parents' and family wealth.
作者: miffy 時間: 10-8-28 16:16
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作者: KK07 時間: 10-8-28 18:38
原帖由 Ving 於 10-8-28 15:24 發表
So, is there any good DSS or private that is comparable to DBS, DGS, SPCC but not so require rich parents and money-oriented. Hope to be more focus on children's ability and performance rather than co ...
I think St Paul's Convent School may fit yr criterion.
作者: Ving 時間: 10-8-29 00:08
Anyway, I lose confidence in Hong Kong education system in DSS/private/Govt/Sub for the money game and lucky draw game....
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作者: TMMA 時間: 10-8-29 13:58
原帖由 hellomickey 於 10-8-27 21:03 發表
我有個case想同大家分享:
我老公最近請了位Part time 文員,她有位8歲兒子,所以大家的話題便圍繞着名校面試,她對DBS的1st and 2nd interview非常有認識,..........細問原因下,她認為她倆夫婦只是中五畢業,又住公屋,根本沒法應付DBS的功課,学費及其他雜費對她來說,又實在沉重...
咁佢重去報名?
重去interview?
好得閒?
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-8-29 22:07
原帖由 Ving 於 10-8-28 15:24 發表
So, is there any good DSS or private that is comparable to DBS, DGS, SPCC but not so require rich parents and money-oriented. Hope to be more focus on children's ability and performance rather than co ...
My experience (DBS & SPCC) and other friends experience (DGS) of the mentioned schools focus on students' ability and performance, of course their standards much higher than we expect and potential candidates are very very outstanding. Just an example, SPCC one vacancy (P4) may have more than 100+ applicants, 28 for written tests.......I don't think its talking about social status, dad's profession, full tme mom etc.
Most people critised them may due to misleading "gossip" in different forums or some parents' kids can't get into those schools and justify their cases (Not selected) by various excuses.
作者: tickling 時間: 10-8-29 23:05
of course it should be "3".
作者: hui3328 時間: 10-8-30 10:28
在香港如何為有錢人下定義? 我認為身家沒有一億, 都不能叫有錢人?
原帖由 Johnny@Klnbay 於 10-8-28 11:31 發表
spcc小學可能是有錢人多，中學收約一百多外校生，則以成績為先，我認識有幾個中學家長住公屋，做侍應，並非律師醫生！
反而DBS 和 DGJS大部份小學直升中學，外校生較小，非富則貴的多! ...
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-8-30 10:45
原帖由 miffy 於 10-8-29 09:36 發表
我想講, 我識的名校家長無以金錢品評別人的家長, 因為有些錢多到不得了, 根本唔洗care有錢無錢的問題, 只有名校校長最會品評家長有無錢, 家底配唔配合到學校。
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家長有錢, 可以俾小朋友去不同類型的 playgroup, 學多d唔同的東西, 去多 d 唔同地方玩下食下, 咁好自然小朋友接觸的東西多左全面左, 眼光闊左, etc. interview表現唔多唔少會好 d 啦...
作者: easybring 時間: 10-8-31 13:34
spcc有學費減免計劃的, 但入得去的一定成績卓越.
原帖由 miffy 於 10-8-28 14:09 發表
你個住公屋、待應朋友真的很富貴, spcc一年6萬蚊學費, 加埋校車食飯、課外活動, 剩係比學校每月都成萬蚊, 未計出去補習和學課外活動費用, 剩比小朋友每月起碼$15,000, 另再加生活費和家庭開支, 你朋友份待應都有3-4 ...
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