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作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-9-13 00:24 標題: 神賜給小朋友之優質學府
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作者: silvia_ng 時間: 10-9-13 00:35
原帖由 PhdJessiema 於 10-9-13 00:24 發表 
I read so many messages here for so many years. All the people have inclination of pushing the children to the utmost. Most of the time parents did train their children to do something out of their ab ...
呢個現實真係好可悲, 小朋友好慘。放左學仲要補習再補習, 唔補就好似"異族"。個個都要小朋友十項全能, 冇哂時間玩玩玩!
我而家一樣樂器都冇比兩個小朋友學, 運動亦都冇。只係閒時同佢地係屋企"炸機", 一家四口發神經咁一齊跳舞。運動都係落樓下公園打下羽毛球, 再唔係打下WII...哈!
身邊朋友都話小朋友點解學咁少野, 我反問點解要學咁多野? 點解唔比小朋友學一樣學器? 我就話連音樂都未識欣賞, 學咩人學學器。
但而家D人, 都係放學後排滿哂....我細果個都係留係學校多一個鐘跳下舞, 玩下跆拳。英文 / PTH? NO WAY!
但要繼續KEEP住自己既價值觀, 真係幾難架....
作者: beautyyk 時間: 10-9-13 08:27 標題: 回覆 1# silvia_ng 的文章
我十分讚同你們這番說話。
作者: manmak88 時間: 10-9-13 09:08
一半半啦...... 我覺得開唔開心好主觀
你見到有人畢業出來工作只有唔夠10k......
我見到的是出來可以自己照顧自己
我細時沒機會試其他野, 只有學校教
現在我也不是強迫要小朋友不停學, 只是想比佢試, 佢like 當然比佢學, 唔like 試過就好
作者: runme 時間: 10-9-13 09:24
it seems to me that whatever the government do, there are people who don't like it and blame it. The reason is simple: different people have different value and interest. Also, people normally are not considerate enough.
It is true that we should not give our kdis much pressure, but we should give them the opportunity to try (if we can) since they are small so that I won't be regret in future.
作者: ysnmama 時間: 10-9-13 09:28
瘋狂世界有瘋狂家長. 不少家長要小朋友比別人學快學多學深. 總之早教早學幾年. 嬰兒爬行期便學幼兒班的. 幼稚園時期學小學的. 小一階段學小三的. 如此類推. 總之完全裝備妥先. 但身在這世界. 要選擇不跟風. 談何容易. 悲哀.
作者: Charlotte_mom 時間: 10-9-13 09:36
係, 好無奈, 但適者生存, 家長唯有"隨波續流"
我都覺得個小一派位方法好stupid, 但我更加唔想見到用更"理智"既方法去派學位, 當需要將小朋友rank, 只會令家長更早一步push小朋友
你知道嗎? 我d小朋友唔係讀咩名校, 我只係鐘意學校活動教學既理念, 想小朋友讀得開心, 都要10個爭一個咁爭個位返黎! (我想佢開心姐, 又唔係要佢做人中之龍, 咁都要爭?)
原帖由 runme 於 10-9-13 09:24 AM 發表
it seems to me that whatever the government do, there are people who don't like it and blame it. The reason is simple: different people have different value and interest. Also, people normally are n ...
作者: happycj 時間: 10-9-13 10:05
Agreed!
Kids become "soldiers" of the parents. Parents "trained" the kids to "fight and win glory" for the family.
Very bad indeed.
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-9-13 10:34
原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-9-13 00:35 發表
呢個現實真係好可悲, 小朋友好慘。放左學仲要補習再補習, 唔補就好似"異族"。個個都要小朋友十項全能, 冇哂時間玩玩玩!
我而家一樣樂器都冇比兩個小朋友學, 運動亦都冇。只係閒時同佢地係屋企"炸機", 一家四口發 ...
唔補就好似"異族"!! 有同感呀!! 唔參加課外活動也是"異族"呢 
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-9-13 10:37
原帖由 ysnmama 於 10-9-13 09:28 發表
瘋狂世界有瘋狂家長. 不少家長要小朋友比別人學快學多學深. 總之早教早學幾年. 嬰兒爬行期便學幼兒班的. 幼稚園時期學小學的. 小一階段學小三的. 如此類推. 總之完全裝備妥先. 但身在這世界. 要選擇不跟風. 談何容易 ...
廿年前的小三 = 十年前的小二 = 今天的小一 = 10年後的 ..................................... k3 ??
作者: share123 時間: 10-9-13 10:37
人在江湖，身不由己。你唔學。人地學曬，好似自己個小朋友智力不如人甘，要有好高EQ先可以唔理唔學….
作者: w_y 時間: 10-9-13 10:40
你 d 小朋友果間已經逐漸變成名校啦, 好多人想入架! 樓主講我覺得一半一半啦. 我見有 d 家長係亂咁谷, 谷左乜都唔知, 人地讀乜補乜佢就去, 見到小朋友邊科差就請老師, 但完全唔去了解問題所在. 相反, 我認識超級名校唔少家長, 真係幾清楚自己小朋友長短處, 谷都谷得有方法, 平時好著重親子活動.
總之咩人都有啦. 唔需要太悲觀...自己知自己做緊乜咪得囉. 雖然我都無可奈何地要隨波逐流, 但我又唔會要小朋友去到好前頭, 總之唔好沒頂就得啦, 前提係大家要學得開心.
原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-9-13 09:36 發表
係, 好無奈, 但適者生存, 家長唯有"隨波續流"
我都覺得個小一派位方法好stupid, 但我更加唔想見到用更"理智"既方法去派學位, 當需要將小朋友rank, 只會令家長更早一步push小朋友
你知道嗎? 我d小朋友唔係讀咩名校, ...
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 10:57
I tend to think the flaws in the current education system has something to do with how parents raise their children.
I do not know how to reform the current system to lessen the burden of the parents. In fact, the mentality of parents has an important role in the process too.
Personally I do let my son learn different things because we want to let him try, and before we decide to enrol in any course, we ask whether he likes it first. His interest and pleasure are the most important factors for our decision. He still have a keen interest in learning different things, and in fact we have to persuade him to give up some courses because his schedule is too tight.
A better chance in being accepted by prestigious primary schools is not our consideration when we plan our son's extracurricular activities. We just want him to enjoy the learning process and to build up his self-confidence.
I will not follow the footsteps of crazy parents who spend so much effort forcing their children to learn all different things just to look outstanding and smart.
Primary school is just the beginning of education and there are many things to learn in their lives.
原帖由 PhdJessiema 於 10-9-13 00:24 發表
I read so many messages here for so many years. All the people have inclination of pushing the children to the utmost. Most of the time parents did train their children to do something out of their ab ...
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 11:05
我覺得作為家長，應該教導小朋友明白，每個人都不一樣，亦不用太計較和其他人的差異，只要過得充實，生命自然會豐盛，活得開心。
原帖由 share123 於 10-9-13 10:37 發表
人在江湖，身不由己。你唔學。人地學曬，好似自己個小朋友智力不如人甘，要有好高EQ先可以唔理唔學….
作者: pandabonita 時間: 10-9-13 11:05
in case you havent seen this, different view on education.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG9CE55wbtY
作者: kaifu 時間: 10-9-13 11:08
However, standards of university students today = standards of secondary school students 10-20 years ago!
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-9-13 10:37 發表
廿年前的小三 = 十年前的小二 = 今天的小一 = 10年後的 ..................................... k3 ??
作者: judy 時間: 10-9-13 11:12
廿年前的小三 = 十年前的小二 = 今天的小一 = 10年後的 ..................................... k3 ??
唔係噃，10年前嘅阿大勁過依家嘅阿三好多。我又唔覺阿大IQ高過阿三。
不過，依家嘅父母緊張過10年前嘅好多就真。以前嘅父母，自己做到嘅，盡力自己做，依家樣漾揾人代勞，錢出了，孩子帶出帶入，会唔會醒啲呢？
其實，小朋友最重要是睡得足，玩得多。
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作者: mat媽 時間: 10-9-13 11:18
原帖由 judy 於 10-9-13 11:12 發表
唔係噃，10年前嘅阿大勁過依家嘅阿三好多。我又唔覺阿大IQ高過阿三。
識深d 不等於 IQ高d
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 11:24
邊方面？o係品德方面就絕對唔覺得。哈哈
也許現在的小學課程比早年的艱深，不過我反而覺得中學的學術科課程的內容較多年前的淺。
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-9-13 10:37 發表
廿年前的小三 = 十年前的小二 = 今天的小一 = 10年後的 ..................................... k3 ??
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 11:25
Agree, especially on their attitude.
原帖由 kaifu 於 10-9-13 11:08 發表
However, standards of university students today = standards of secondary school students 10-20 years ago!
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-9-13 11:32
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-9-13 11:24 發表
邊方面？o係品德方面就絕對唔覺得。哈哈
也許現在的小學課程比早年的艱深，不過我反而覺得中學的學術科課程的內容較多年前的淺。
俾小學教左, 中學唔知教咩好??? 
作者: 曲曲 時間: 10-9-13 11:58
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作者: manmak88 時間: 10-9-13 12:19
這真的是天生天養, 好彩就平平無奇
唔好彩遇到壞人就......
原帖由 曲曲 於 10-9-13 11:58 發表
唔補習唔學興趣班大有人在
不過最重要係家庭教育
我有個朋友個仔小四
話個仔上堂發夢成日比老師投訴
成績好差考試好差
佢係單親媽媽無工作
但又唔願教個仔, 剩係話唔識教
個仔無補習
佢仲同我講人生唔係剩係得讀書, ...
作者: catyam 時間: 10-9-13 13:34
所以我覺得, 會唔會係咁樣, 令到有好多青少年問題:
- 小學太深, 令佢地失去學習興趣, 到中學更加冇心機
- 或者, 小學時咩都學晒, 到中學覺得無聊, 於是又係冇心機
......
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-9-13 11:32 發表
俾小學教左, 中學唔知教咩好???
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 13:51
我覺得應該是反過來，小學好好培養小孩的學習興趣，中學才是學術衝刺期。
原帖由 catyam 於 10-9-13 13:34 發表
所以我覺得, 會唔會係咁樣, 令到有好多青少年問題:
- 小學太深, 令佢地失去學習興趣, 到中學更加冇心機
- 或者, 小學時咩都學晒, 到中學覺得無聊, 於是又係冇心機
......
...
作者: d2343130 時間: 10-9-13 13:53
可能係: 一開始返學(幼稚園) 已經被呢d教學方式令小朋友無心機學....直到永遠...阿門.原帖由 catyam 於 10-9-13 13:34 發表
所以我覺得, 會唔會係咁樣, 令到有好多青少年問題:
- 小學太深, 令佢地失去學習興趣, 到中學更加冇心機
- 或者, 小學時咩都學晒, 到中學覺得無聊, 於是又係冇心機
......
...
作者: mat媽 時間: 10-9-13 14:04
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-9-13 13:51 發表
我覺得應該是反過來，小學好好培養小孩的學習興趣，中學才是學術衝刺期。
我fd的老板是 new zealand人, 話小學是玩 & 培養讀書興趣, 到中學就要他思想下要怎樣的人生, 想想怎樣達到自己目的.
作者: manmak88 時間: 10-9-13 14:13
最後上到大學就只是拍拖同打麻雀......
連神童都唔明點夠會甘
一樣米養百樣人
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-9-13 14:04 發表
我fd的老板是 new zealand人, 話小學是玩 & 培養讀書興趣, 到中學就要他思想下要怎樣的人生, 想想怎樣達到自己目的.
作者: smile320 時間: 10-9-13 14:39
所以家下o甘家高分低能的小朋友o羅！其實做家長,一定要睇小朋友係咩類型,去認識佢,係能力範圍內比適當既野佢,最重要都係多溝通,同埋身教！
作者: Charlotte_mom 時間: 10-9-13 14:42
外國人好難明香港既生活
我朋友帶個女去睇眼科, 醫生O係澳洲回流, 我朋友叫醫生介紹咩牌子檯燈較好, 醫生反問, 做咩要買檯燈, 做功課緊係日抖做WOR!
原帖由 mat媽 於 10-9-13 02:04 PM 發表
我fd的老板是 new zealand人, 話小學是玩 & 培養讀書興趣, 到中學就要他思想下要怎樣的人生, 想想怎樣達到自己目的.
作者: pandabonita 時間: 10-9-13 14:45
再借題發輝一下，每年都見有學生諗唔通而鑽牛角尖，不知外國同類事件有多少。
作者: Whitepine 時間: 10-9-13 14:47
蕭亞姨，
我真係好欣賞你。我其實係你 fans 黎架!
原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-9-13 00:35 發表
呢個現實真係好可悲, 小朋友好慘。放左學仲要補習再補習, 唔補就好似"異族"。個個都要小朋友十項全能, 冇哂時間玩玩玩!
我而家一樣樂器都冇比兩個小朋友學, 運動亦都冇。只係閒時同佢地係屋企"炸機", 一家四口發 ...
作者: k.kung 時間: 10-9-13 14:53
I have read your previous posts starting from last year. If you think the HK education system, schools, parents are so stupid, why you keep on posting message like 女拔萃DGJS必入攻略 and 聖保羅男女小學必入攻略 I to VII again and again.
If those parents are culprits, you are the accomplice.
Dont blame the God. You have the free will to decide the future of your children.
原帖由 PhdJessiema 於 10-9-13 00:24 發表
I read so many messages here for so many years. All the people have inclination of pushing the children to the utmost. Most of the time parents did train their children to do something out of their ab ...
作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-9-13 15:01 標題: 回覆 33# k.kung 的文章
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作者: manmak88 時間: 10-9-13 15:02
強..... 戶外做功課
唔比我屋企無西斜東曬?
窗台比天高, 廚厠不見天日?
又可能窗外有24小時紅白藍光彩?
最可怕的一點是雨天不是讀書天......
原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-9-13 14:42 發表
外國人好難明香港既生活
我朋友帶個女去睇眼科, 醫生O係澳洲回流, 我朋友叫醫生介紹咩牌子檯燈較好, 醫生反問, 做咩要買檯燈, 做功課緊係日抖做WOR!
...
作者: Whitepine 時間: 10-9-13 15:15
thomasha,
I agree with your views.
As a Christian parent, I consider my kids are not my "properties". They are the "gifts" received from God. Of course, I am their father and have responsibility to raise them properly. But, I don't rule their lives. God does!!
I just want my kids to be happy, even though I know they may not be "as good or as talented" compared with other kids. They don't learn piano, don't have any tutor class to attend, don't know how to swim, draw badly, don't dance....But, they are always the best in my heart. I love them not because they are smart and do well in school, just because they are my childrens.
So, according to the "standard", I am the unqualified father, and my kids are below "the standard".
So, do I need to be shame of it? No. I don't.
原帖由 thomasha 於 10-9-13 10:57 發表
I tend to think the flaws in the current education system has something to do with how parents raise their children.
I do not know how to reform the current system to lessen the burden of the parents ...
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 15:39
I think most, if not all, parents want their children to be happy. Different parents have different perceptions as to how to achieve such happiness - some parents think creating a bright path by training their children intensively can give them happiness when they achieve adulthood because they will be talented to tackle challenges; some parents want their children to enjoy the learning process and their childhood so that they can be pleasant and contribute to society when they grow up. For me, I choose the latter - every child deserves an enjoyable childhood.
原帖由 Whitepine 於 10-9-13 15:15 發表
thomasha,
I agree with your views.
As a Christian parent, I consider my kids are not my "properties". They are the "gifts" received from God. Of course, I am their father and have responsibility to ...
作者: Whitepine 時間: 10-9-13 15:41
Thank you.
Good and inspring talk!!.
作者: nello514 時間: 10-9-13 16:42
I agree. In fact, most parents wants their children can have the ability to earn a living when they grow up. At this digital era, without high education background (especially in HK), we can't find a better job. So the 1st goal is to get a bachelor degree, and our education system only focus on exam result.
作者: bbmm-mom 時間: 10-9-13 17:57
I also agree...But, we have to admit that we need to push them a little bit as they may lost their patience in some way, even they have interest in learning something. If you guide them a bit, they can have some achievement and they will get satisfaction and thus continue to do their best.
I think all parents want their children to be happy and healthy. Most of my friends also want to give their children opportunity to explore more and more, which we may not have chance in the past.
作者: thomasha 時間: 10-9-13 18:51
Yes, of course. Even adults lose focus sometimes and need to be brought back on track. We do need to find out the underlying reasons if the situation persists.
原帖由 bbmm-mom 於 10-9-13 17:57 發表
I also agree...But, we have to admit that we need to push them a little bit as they may lost their patience in some way, even they have interest in learning something. If you guide them a bit, they c ...
作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-10-14 02:56
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作者: kc_01k 時間: 10-10-14 09:33
原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-9-13 00:35 發表
呢個現實真係好可悲, 小朋友好慘。放左學仲要補習
再補習, 唔補就好似"異族"。個個都要小朋友十項全能, 冇哂時間玩玩玩!
我而家一樣樂器都冇比兩個小朋友學, 運動亦都冇。只係閒時同佢地係屋企"炸機", 一家四口發神經咁一齊跳舞。運動都係落樓下公園打下羽毛球, 再唔係打下WII...哈!
身邊朋友都話小朋友點解學咁少野, 我反問點解要學咁多野? 點解唔比小朋友學一樣學器? 我就話連音樂都未識欣賞, 學咩人學學器。
但而家D人, 都係放學後排滿哂....我細果個都係留係學校多一個鐘跳下舞, 玩下跆拳。英文 / PTH? NO WAY!
但要繼續KEEP住自己既價值觀, 真係幾難架....
Totally agree!
作者: aryee 時間: 10-10-14 10:14
我覺得樓主所講好多都係bk風氣，bk的確係一個好平台比家長交換心得，收風，聽意見，但同時，呢度都有d歪風，助長左唔少無謂"競爭"。所以我見自己(思想)唔太對路，我就會唔上bk一輪，清醒返先再黎收料。
作者: IWAT 時間: 10-10-14 10:26
我覺得, 只不過係大家進步緊...
快樂童年好重要, 但小朋友都有自己要求...
我識一個媽咪, 識多過5種語言, 最少4種是非常流利的. 她的小朋友k3已經可以讀成本英文小說, 講流利法文... 但小朋友是非常開心, 快樂的. 點解? 我自己覺得學習能力好因人而異... 但家庭環境及配合, 更加重要... 點解咁多人要小朋友參加不同的補習班, 學唔同既野... 係大家想自己的小朋友追逐其他小朋友...? 唔想自己小朋友落後於人...? 我相信小朋友其實自己都係咁... 你個小朋友會唔會問您, 某某同學仔都有, 點解佢冇...類似的問題. 小朋友都唔想比老師話,同學笑... 大家都有要求, 讀一般學校的都可以做高官積極做人, 讀名校的也可以遊手好閒.
大家自己都進步左好多, 對自己的過去或多或少可能有點不滿意. 希望比小朋友有更好的. 我相信只要將自己家庭, 自己本身同小朋友擺位正確. 認清自己能力, 協助小朋友發揮, 大家內心自然舒服, 就會有更多正能量支持小朋友...
(小小個人觀點... 見諒)
作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-10-23 04:57
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-23 14:37
原帖由 pandabonita 於 10-9-13 14:45 發表
再借題發輝一下，每年都見有學生諗唔通而鑽牛角尖，不知外國同類事件有多少。
Yes, visit Stanford campus and you can see 24 hrs hotline.......... Talk to students and you may know how many did silly things to hurt themselves.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-23 16:04 編輯 ]
作者: TungTung_daddy 時間: 10-10-23 15:54
Good answer. Not always follow the others to blame. While I was young, I had no chance to learn ECA.
In some valuable studies, over 95% of the brain develops before 6 years old. If you give chance to the kid, they will develop it faster and easier. The problem is that you feed something that is beyond their age.
The government's 派位 method can always be improved. However, I also don't want my kid to be ranked while he is still 5 or 6 years old. If someone think that there is another good idea, state here. Please don't just blame.
While I was young, my family was poor. We did not blame. We even did not apply for government social security funding. Nowaday, people always blame the government. Please work hard first. Please give a good model to your kid first.
原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-9-13 09:36 發表
係, 好無奈, 但適者生存, 家長唯有"隨波續流"
我都覺得個小一派位方法好stupid, 但我更加唔想見到用更"理智"既方法去派學位, 當需要將小朋友rank, 只會令家長更早一步push小朋友
你知道嗎? 我d小朋友唔係讀咩名校, ...
作者: d2343130 時間: 10-10-24 00:26
如可以"因材施教"小朋友一定可以"愉快又有效學習", 但家吓教法要"快而多"....
除非小朋友"可以填"唔係.....好快變得"討厭學習".....
ANYWAY,家長同小朋友之間要好清楚咩形式的教法至最有用, 只係一面倒要小朋友點..點...又點....最終,只有一個唔變通,唔知自己做咩,同無人叫唔知可以點做及叫咗都唔做的人.
作者: funnyguy 時間: 10-10-25 00:03
原帖由 PhdJessiema 於 10-9-13 00:24 發表
I read so many messages here for so many years. All the people have inclination of pushing the children to the utmost. Most of the time parents did train their children to do something out of their ab ...
The most meaningful and touching post I have ever read.
作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-10-29 02:04
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作者: maynjune 時間: 10-10-29 10:45
歪風?
Not only here.. You can see this 歪風 anywhere if you can take part in more conversation with your kid's parents. They usually take 6 - 9 kinds of activities after school... Even they are willing to pay HK$650.00 per hour for an English lesson for their kids in Kindergarten.
Charging more means better quality, at least at their point of view....
Poor HK Parents and poor their kids.....
原帖由 aryee 於 10-10-14 10:14 發表
我覺得樓主所講好多都係bk風氣，bk的確係一個好平台比家長交換心得，收風，聽意見，但同時，呢度都有d歪風，助長左唔少無謂"競爭"。所以我見自己(思想)唔太對路，我就會唔上bk一輪，清醒返先再黎收料。 ...
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-29 12:29 標題: 回覆 52# maynjune 的文章
You highlighted the phenomenon, pls elaborate more on the causes and solutions.
作者: PhdJessiema 時間: 10-10-30 00:18
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