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標題: 女兒Yr5,數學跟唔上,去邊到補英文數好呢？or點幫佢呢？ [打印本頁]

作者: sabun 時間: 11-1-13 14:17 標題: 女兒Yr5,數學跟唔上,去邊到補英文數好呢？or點幫佢呢？

enopi得嗎？好難塭人補英文數!

作者: erichkl 時間: 11-1-13 23:05

可以給她試一下Math Monkey

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-14 10:46

原帖由 sabun 於 11-1-13 14:17 發表
enopi得嗎？好難塭人補英文數!

I guess U are probably not the only parent having this problem in her class. My younger dauther is also attending year 5 (I am not sure if they go to the same school in Ma On Shan) . Even though she has no problem doing the ones with clear Math expressions, she has problem for those related to applications and problem solving, and she claimed some material were never taught in class before. May be that is the essense of "home learning"?!

Since there is no Math text book for year 5, we have problem following her progress until the report card came back at the end of each term.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-14 11:10

原帖由 sabun 於 11-1-13 14:17 發表
enopi得嗎？好難塭人補英文數!

Sabun,

May be U can go to an outside book store ("Popular" at MK century plaza has a section of those)  to get an English math exercise book covering the units that she will learn in this year and ask her to do daily ,so that U can use that as a guideline to track her progress. If U don't have time, Umay also hire a  private tutor (U student)  back home ,for primary is about $100+ hour. I beleive that should be enough for primary.

One on one tutoring at reputable tutoring center cost more than $300/hour and require the year 5 girl to travel  a lot(even with a domestic helper) , which is less desirable.

If she is not good even with basic , try Kumon early, it is not as bad as others think. Kumon will assign daily assignment which require only 15 minutes per day ,but can build up the confidence of the kid , and she  only need to go the near by Kumon center once a week for an hour review.

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-14 11:12 編輯 ]

作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-1-14 14:38

I read your post and want to ask whether the math curriculum in RC is difficult or not? My son is in year two and he attends a math class (math club) twice a week by Mr Dan.

原帖由 acdad 於 11-1-14 10:46 發表

I guess U are probably not the only parent having this problem in her class. My younger dauther is also attending year 5 (I am not sure if they go to the same school in Ma On Shan) . Even though sh ...

作者: sabun 時間: 11-1-14 18:08

not difficult!only you didn't have anything to follow!

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-14 21:51 標題: 回覆 2# Radiomama 的文章

I am not sure what are being taught in the Math club but from my older daugther experience 3 years ago , there was a big jump of the expectation (Math skills) from year 5 to year 6. That was when I started writing in BK and put them on Kumon. Honestly, I did not think I would need to send my kids out for additional tutoring 3 years ago and thought the "brain pop" thing would be enough. I thought Math should be "a piece of cake" in IS. Obviously, I was wrong.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-14 22:26

As Sabun said, it is difficult for parents to follow the child's Math progress  for PYP.  It may be too late if we wait until the report card comes back. Parents should frequently ask the child's to bring back the classwork normally completed in class and being  kept in school.

I am quite confident on my Math skills. I would say the depth of understanding the curriculum requires a lot  more than what is taught in class since year 6.

If U are not a full time mom who can follow the kid's homework daily, start Kumon as early as possible. When U think Kumon is not enough, start private tutoring ,  if your child is just average. My younger one is getting 3 and 4 in Math in her report card and she just told me she remains the top 3 in her class so far. The experience 3 years ago did enlighten me somehow.

I am not sure what will happen next year. From what I experienced 3 years ago, Kumon would not be enough since  year 6. Good luck!

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-14 22:32 編輯 ]

作者: sabun 時間: 11-1-14 22:44

do you mean kumon is the basic need for them!

作者: myjasmine 時間: 11-1-14 23:40

acada,

Do you know if Enopi is also ok? Thanks.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-14 23:49

I think Kumon does provide a system for parents to track their progress, to build up the child's  confidence in Math step by step, and also set a rountine task need to be accomplished on a daily basis. And it only takes appx 15 minutes per day no matter which level they are at.

As a parent , U may at least check their kumon work at home whenever U want, identify her problems and  try to help her.  The Kumon tutor would also review her work weekly and try to help them to correct her misakes. They would also give them some incentives (promote to a higher grade ,issue them a certificate , etc) from time to time.

My 2 kids never refuse to do Kumon homework or go to the weekly review in the last 3 years. If my younger one can get 3 and 4 in Math in Year 5 just with the help of Kumon, your child should be able to achieve that as well. But more important, it keeps her interest in the subject.

We all know in Math , if we are confused in certain part that was taught previously, we would not be able to follow what would be  taught later. So, we must keep track of the kid's work as early as possible and try to help them early.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-15 00:02 標題: 回復 2# myjasmine 的帖子

Sorry, I don't have experience in that. Please share your info on the 2 below, Enopi and 學林 . My girls may need help in 解題.

enopi:

http://www.enopi.com/Main/Main_Local.aspx?CountryCd=HongKong&HMAC=zG5vOqdfp6I7mR3loo/s6KgOdn8=

學林:

http://www.selin.com.hk/

學林數學的特色

清晰的數學概念剖析。
小學生的思維特徵是從直觀形象思維過渡到抽象思維。所以每份學林數學的第一版有概念剖析，採用直觀圖形或一步步的圖解形式，作出指引，並加解釋，盡量少用文字敘述。最後寫出法則、定律或公式，這樣孩子容易理解吸收，補充了課堂上做筆記的作用。

每天計分計秒的練習。
學林數學作業有一定的題量和難度，各版作業的完成時間都有規定，孩子通過定時定量、循序漸進的訓練，培養了把握時間的觀念和專心一致的學習態度。我們驚奇地發現，孩子們通過了學林式訓練後，能提高對時間的統籌和駕馭能力，學習變得有成效，快速而正確。克服了做事懶散，注意力不集中的壞習慣。

應用「解題思路」，發展培養思維能力。
孩子不懂解題時，總是說"不懂"，究竟哪一個步驟不懂，他無從問起，導師想教他也感到困難，只好一遍遍解釋，幫助他費時費力。現在有了解題思路，孩子可以自己先看解題思路，對不懂的哪個步驟或數量關係，導師也容易指導他。我們發現初期孩子做學林數學，問得比較多，後來問得越來越少，証明了孩子慢慢學會獨立思考，獨立解題，最後不再看解題思路也能解答應用題了。孩子自己解答了不懂得的難題，這比別人教他更是無比的高興。不斷累積這種成功的經驗，最終變得善於思考，喜歡數學。

多讓孩子能主動提出問題，學習由被動變為主動。
我們不僅重視孩子解題後的答案正確與否，更重要的是關注他的解題思考過程的合理性。讓孩子多提出疑難的問題，這樣更能增加他的思考機會，並及時糾正、補充、完善他的解題思路。孩子懂得提出問題，導師就有機會幫助他，孩子的學習變得主動和投入。事實証明，很多孩子通過學林數學的訓練後，思路清晰，思考更加嚴密，同時提高了口述表達能力。

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-15 00:12 編輯 ]

作者: myjasmine 時間: 11-1-15 10:07

acdad,

sorry that i actually do not know much about enopi. But friends told me that enopi's exercises are more funny for kids. They do not have daily exercise but they will have exercise to be completed within the coming week. Just like Kumon, the teachers will see their progress and may be able to spot whats wrong with the kids.

I guess our kids are studying in the same IS in MOS, your previous advice is really appreciated. I think i need to plan seriously now. Thanks acdad.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-15 12:53 標題: 回覆 1# myjasmine 的文章

Hi myjamine,

Actually, this is the first time I hear enopi as well. By partcipating in this forum, I have a chance to learn new things as well. So, thanks to you and other parents who don't mind sharing their experience and what they know.

I just talked to my daughters this morning and they keep reminding me not to cut their Kumon classes, that really means something to them.

By checking enopi website, there is an E. nopi center in MOS which is only 1 MTR stop away from our school. it seems quite convenient to us.

I will go to talk to someone in one of E.nopi center when I pick up the younger one from her painting class later today. May be we can share more info later.

作者: myjasmine 時間: 11-1-15 14:07

by the way, it seems that teacher's expectation in this school is not low and many students will get some help outside school. So how about Chinese? Any good recommendation for Chinese learning outside?

作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-1-15 15:48

Which years your daughters are now?
My son's math is ok and he is put into a special math class in school. But he comments that the math in Mr Dan's class is difficult. I don't know what can I do but I keep giving him home exercise everyday. He is doing Grade 3 maths and he can handle it.
Besides calculation, would Kumon cover a wide range of math curriculum??

原帖由 acdad 於 11-1-14 21:51 發表
I am not sure what are being taught in the Math club but from my older daugther experience 3 years ago , there was a big jump of the expectation (Math skills) from year 5 to year 6. That was when I s ...

作者: erichkl 時間: 11-1-15 21:16

It seems that the Maths level of the IS at MOS is really high. My daughter is studying in Yr 1 there. Of course, everything is fine at this stage. In order to prepare for the challenges in later years, it's really important to find some tuition class for her. Now, she's taking tuition class in Math Monkey. She likes it very much as there is not much pressure. She needs complete an assignment once a week. Still need more time to observe her level at regular intervals. It's glad to hear more parents to share their valuable experience. The most important thing is to keep the kid interested in the subject.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-15 22:48 標題: 回復 1# erichkl 的帖子

Just find out the below workshops would be hold on Jan 27 related to this topic at RC. Please participate if U are interested. I do not know the differences between the 2 workshops, pls check with the school

1.Parent Workshop on Maths in the PYP (5:30pm-6:30pm)
2.Mathematics in the PYP Parent Workshop (5:30pm-7:30pm)

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-15 22:54 編輯 ]

作者: myjasmine 時間: 11-1-16 08:24

acdad,

I even did not know about the workshops you mentioned. Will it be opened to parents of a particular year level? so do you know if it is to be held in the PAC? do we need to sign up for that beforehand?

作者: erichkl 時間: 11-1-16 17:16 標題: 回覆 18# acdad 的文章

Thanks to your info ! But, I was not informed to attend those workshops. I guess it's for parents of higher grade instead of Yr 1.

By the way, I & my wife have more concern on how to increase the interest of Chinese for our daughter. Since Chinese is not a major subject in an IS, learning traditional Chinese really discourage her a lot. But, it's not quite feasible to change to use simplified Chinese, it's also a headache issue. We don't expect her to be able to write a good & long composition. But, at least need to encourage her to read more Chinese books. I don't know how many words does RC require the students to write in higher grade, say, Yr 5 ?

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-17 21:17 標題: 回復 2# myjasmine 的帖子

Hi erichkl/myjasmine,

The school will inform parents about upcoming events or news (such as personnel changes) via emails. Please make sure U have your email address registered in school to receive updated events info.

Please also check the school calender frequently if U would like to follow upcoming events closely.

Good luck!

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-17 21:38 編輯 ]

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-17 21:30 標題: 回復 16# Radiomama 的帖子

They are in year 5 and 9. I know the school would pick students good in Math in a special class. However, they normally do that in a low profile way. It is good to hear that your son is one of those. I think Kumon is good for junior years in PYP but a different programme may be needed in later stages.

作者: Annie123 時間: 11-1-18 17:13

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作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-18 22:53 標題: 回復 23# Annie123 的帖子

Thanks for sharing. I tried to find the year 6 Math curriculum a few days ago but cannot locate that in the school website and find the format of such information has been changed and varied in each year's Bulletin. Do U know where I can find that? Thanks.

作者: Annie123 時間: 11-1-19 15:01 標題: 回復 1# acdad 的帖子

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作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-19 23:33 標題: 回復 25# Annie123 的帖子

I beleive the school used to put the subject curriculum in the website before, even for PYP. I am pretty sure I have seen that before a few years ago. The current bulletin format is quite confusing and not standardized. Thanks anyway.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-22 00:00 標題: 回復 18# acdad 的帖子

There is a 3 pages survey for Parents and Guardians attending the Mathematics in the PYP workshop. Please read and comment . Thanks.

http://www.renaissance.edu.hk/sites/renaissance/files/Workshop_Survey_Questions.pdf

[ 本帖最後由 acdad 於 11-1-22 00:09 編輯 ]

作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-1-22 15:48

I am not available to join the seminar. Would you share the info with us after it?? Million thanks!

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-26 19:05 標題: 回復 28# Radiomama 的帖子

I will attend the workshop tomorrow and I wonder why they set that at a time when most working parents cannot attend.

作者: Radiomama 時間: 11-1-26 21:49 標題: 回復 1# acdad 的帖子

Agree no more. Coming workshops are scheduled at the same timeslot too!

作者: acdad 時間: 11-1-26 22:12 標題: 回復 30# Radiomama 的帖子

How do you feel about the questions in the survey? The tone sounds quite defensive to me.

作者: chloekate 時間: 11-1-30 03:30 標題: english tutor

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作者: sabun 時間: 11-2-1 23:28

Hi!how much per hour?Where do you live?

作者: vi511 時間: 11-2-8 10:11

[quote]原帖由 acdad 於 11-1-15 12:53 發表

Hi acdad,

I see that your children are successful in RC and you are proud of their achievement. My son is also studying in RC and he has problem in English. His maths is ok as he is attending Kumon and I agree that Kumon Maths does help. Do you have any suggestion about improving his English? We are working parents and do not have much time to talk to him in English at home. Please let me have your advice. Thanks.

作者: acdad 時間: 11-2-8 14:23 標題: 回復 1# vi511 的帖子

Hi vi511,

Thanks but U might have misunderstood my previous posts about my daugthers acadamic performance in RC.

For the younger one studying in yr 5, her Math is above average  in her class but her Math problem solving skills  would need to be improved for yr 6 and for the MYP, based on the performance of my older daugther in Math studying at yr 9.

I never mentioned about their English proficiency in this forum. In fact, I am not happy about their English writing skills and have sent them to a private tutor to learn English writing formally since this term. I can see some improvement there but the tuition fee is quite expansive. As I mentioned in other threads previously, basic skills  (writing and Math) like that should have been taught and practice  in school.

Yes, there are a few things I am proud of them but they are not that acadamic. They are willing to speak Cantonese with us, seldom keep secrets from us, willing to add us on FB and other social feeds, respect other family members and domestic helpers, willing to join family gathering  everytime without playing any hand held games,  participate in the conversations at the right moment ,know when to switch off their  computers and TVs , . Besides,  they always let us keep their "red pockets"

作者: vi511 時間: 11-2-8 23:49

Hi acdad,

Thank you for your detailed explanation. My son is in P.6. I am worried that his English is not up to standard. However, I don't have confidence in private tutor. Have heard about Kelly Yang Project? Can any other BK parents give me opinion about this English learning centre?

作者: acdad 時間: 11-2-9 09:57 標題: 回覆 1# vi511 的文章

If I remember correctly, Kelly Yang Project 's name was mentioned by someone (son of a RC teacher) studied in one of the ESF school and scored 44 in IB DP , who gave a talk in RC last year. I think he was also offered a partime post in this learning center.

Similar to the IB DP score published by each school, I beleive it is also important to know how many students studied in the learnng center have took the test (or eligible to take the test) and the score distribution.

作者: C.K.K.K 時間: 11-2-24 16:28

請問是讀緊邊學校 ?

作者: C.K.K.K 時間: 11-2-26 16:32

我考慮緊比唔比個仔讀RC, 所以我想請明問吓, 點解算數跟唔上, 是否算數程度很深 ? 還是因為用英文教而跟唔上? 又還是老師上堂冇教, 只係叫小朋友回家做 ? 咁, 是否要出外上補習班 ?

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