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作者: marieng    時間: 11-11-13 10:05     標題: LA or 繼續等

LA 收了小兒,但要在19前註冊。註冊了等於放棄中夬派位,點解LA不放在21號。
作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-13 16:15

我們去年也一樣, 其實有不少直資也在中央放榜前要註冊, 我想是想收到一些以宏信/該校為首選的學生吧!
作者: baby-town    時間: 11-11-14 09:32

如我哋決定宏信 , 就等如放棄 21 日的派位嗎  ??


原帖由 marieng 於 11-11-13 10:05 發表
LA 收了小兒,但要在19前註冊。註冊了等於放棄中夬派位,點解LA不放在21號。

作者: EM06    時間: 11-11-14 17:31

Yes.  This is the rule of the game.
作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-14 18:51

由於宏信19號才註冊, 所以21號如果小朋友首輪入到官/資助學校, 學校會照post小朋友的資料, 但由於你註冊左, 簽了放棄信,已代表放棄, 所以也不可到有關學校註冊.
作者: hosing    時間: 11-11-14 20:55

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作者: yinglongma    時間: 11-11-15 11:48

原帖由 kamtsk 於 11-11-14 18:51 發表
由於宏信19號才註冊, 所以21號如果小朋友首輪入到官/資助學校, 學校會照post小朋友的資料, 但由於你註冊左, 簽了放棄信,已代表放棄, 所以也不可到有關學校註冊. ...

其實我都擔心學費問題,如果註冊了宏信,又咁好彩抽到自行,是否不可以回頭放棄宏信,要翻自行呢?
不過今年宏信註冊日是11月17,18日,自行則21日才公佈,咁官津仲會唔會post學生的資料?另外其他直資是否也等同放棄呢?
作者: 小豆媽    時間: 11-11-15 12:27

原帖由 kamtsk 於 11-11-14 18:51 發表
由於宏信19號才註冊, 所以21號如果小朋友首輪入到官/資助學校, 學校會照post小朋友的資料, 但由於你註冊左, 簽了放棄信,已代表放棄, 所以也不可到有關學校註冊. ...


YES !
LA係18/11 5PM 前註冊, 你註冊時即時要簽紙放棄自行&大抽獎機會, LA會fax去EDB, 咁你就唔可以再去22/11自行收生果間學校註冊.

在商言商, 每間直資都係咁做, 學校都要顧及學校利益, 收$ & 收一D真係有打算入學的學生.
作者: 小豆媽    時間: 11-11-15 12:34

原帖由 hosing 於 11-11-14 20:55 發表

我計過LA 12年學費加埋要成50萬,但仲未計要每年要加學費,轉咗IB課程又要加,保守估計80萬走唔甩。而且若果中途我發現間學校唔啱我個仔、或者經濟上出現咗問題,想轉校亦好難,原因並唔係其他學校唔收,而係子女適應唔返傳統學校



你都好心水清
我都好唔想年年加學費, 但冇錢 點請一班一個外國人呢 ?
冇錢點行IB課程呢 ?  認証左IB, 中學部過$10000一個月係勢在必行了.  仲有個swimming pool.........
不過LA有fee reduction的, 人人都可以申請的. 又有scholarship up to 70% off.
作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-15 14:48

原帖由 hosing 於 11-11-14 20:55 發表
我都係决定唔交留位費!!……..我計過LA 12年學費加埋要成50萬,但仲未計要每年要加學費,轉咗IB課程又要加,保守估計80萬走唔甩。而且若果中途我發現間學校唔啱我個仔、或者經濟上出現咗問題,想轉校亦好難,原因並唔係其他學校 ...


只要你們考慮清楚了, 便ok, 最緊要間學校適合小朋友和家庭配合到.

呢個問題, 我們也有考慮過. 其實入了宏信, 可令到小朋友的英語達到一個較高的水平,又可養成自學的習慣, 我覺得辛苦啲也值得.

昨天又有一位10歲的小學生跳樓, 每次我們看到類似的新聞, 也慶幸小朋友能在宏信學習, 因為宏信是教小朋友如何去學習, 不是教小朋友考試, (小學階段) 所以壓力相對較少.

無論如果, 都祝小朋友能入讀心儀學校.
作者: lcw055    時間: 11-11-15 23:19

但中學生活又如何解決呢?高中則更煩惱!
作者: marieng    時間: 11-11-15 23:35

我想問kamtsk 宏信只得三年歷史,校政是否正晰,教學上又是否如簡介會內一樣?
作者: lcw055    時間: 11-11-16 00:18

今年應該是第二個辦學年, 明天九月才踏入第三年
作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-16 11:39

原帖由 marieng 於 11-11-15 23:35 發表
我想問kamtsk 宏信只得三年歷史,校政是否正晰,教學上又是否如簡介會內一樣?


就我所見的( 小兒只入讀了兩個半月), 可跟大家分享一下:

1. 在學習上, 小朋友的project多在校內完成, 在老師的指導下, 同學也能完成有關project, 父母不用擔心, 我們可以做的, 只是間中為他們預備材料.

2. 上個月, 小朋友已在班上進行了第一次presentation, 小朋友在全班同學面前present自己的project, 很了不起了.

3. 第二個學習單元中(nature), 小朋友會分組完成不同題目, 有的負責TRF, 有的負責Woodland.......... 通過合作, 小朋友可互相學習.

4. 見到學校真的想訓練學生的自我管理能力. 上課前, 音樂一響, 同學們也會乖乖地自己排隊, 老師到來便會自動收口. 小息後, 音樂響起,同學又會自己返課室.

5. 學校功課不多, 但每天也有reading( ENG). 小朋友不同的程度, 閱讀不同程度的小故事, 到了某些level, 同學更要完成一張極簡單的工作紙. 中文科則分班上課.


6. 學校仍新, 在行政方面大家仍要多多包容, 但我也覺得可以接受.

其他仍觀望中, 但整體上, 小朋友十分開心, 老師很好, 很CARING, 我們也很滿意.
作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-16 11:44     標題: 回復 11# lcw055 的帖子

Icw055,

唉, 說真的, 真的安排唔到咁長遠. 你看, 政府的政策孜改了, 6年後, 都唔知什麼情況. 反而, 我期望小朋友至少在這6年能開心地學習, 能享受學習, 怎至愛上學習, 這便很好了.
作者: 小豆媽    時間: 11-11-16 14:55

原帖由 marieng 於 11-11-15 23:35 發表
我想問kamtsk 宏信只得三年歷史,校政是否正晰,教學上又是否如簡介會內一樣?


先申報利益, 我是現任家長
我無意唱好or唱衰LA, 我只是見呢幾日"突然"好多家長問問題想了解學校多D, 就講講自己睇法 .

間間新學校都係經驗淺行政亂, 看看家長給學校的包容有幾大.

LA一條龍, 只要係你肯, 學校包上中學.  所以小學教成點, hea唔hea都唔係問題, 但如果你在小學6年當中, 你發現你對學校不再認同 or 中學部比唔到信心你, 你要個仔轉出去搵中學係好難, 學校不參加派位, 你要自己去叩門, 你可唔可以同津校的精英爭入"鄉中/趙中, 真係自己心中有數了, 人地操足6年呢 !

學校未apply到IB, 未來3年都係"進行中", 到左你地個仔上中學, 可能已經apply到, 不過冇人知個水平去到邊.  如果到時中學部真係唔惦, 學生去考334又唔夠津校有經驗, 考IB又唔知得唔得, 咁就大件事.  不過在LA有好處, 就係送去外國讀書.

老實講, 學校對學生的秩序要求係冇津校咁高, 老師(由其外藉人士),對管理HK小朋友的秩序係有待改善的.  
而且學校面試喜歡收"好動"的小朋友, 小學部真的收了一些"過份活力充沛"的學生.  不過呢樣野間間學校都會發生的.

至於教學是否如簡介會一樣完美, 我讀左1年3個月, 只可以講學校是ok的, 但有改善空間.  間間學校briefing都sell到自己點點點好, 不過間間都係"事實與理論"有出入的, LA不是唯一一間係咁.
作者: babybaby2010    時間: 11-11-17 11:31

原帖由 小豆媽 於 11-11-16 14:55 發表


先申報利益, 我是現任家長
我無意唱好or唱衰LA, 我只是見呢幾日"突然"好多家長問問題想了解學校多D, 就講講自己睇法 .

間間新學校都係經驗淺行政亂, 看看家長給學校的包容有幾大.

LA一條龍, 只要係你肯, 學校包 ...


thx小豆媽
你的解釋很中肯..
作者: 小豆媽    時間: 11-11-17 12:51

原帖由 lcw055 於 11-11-15 23:19 發表
但中學生活又如何解決呢?高中則更煩惱!

我是小學部的家長.
老實講, 呢樣野係我地依家呢班家長"最擔心"的.
教育一定要睇長遠.
小學ok, 開開心心6年係LA sure比到你的, 不過, 到左中學, 點都要面對公開試考大學.
依家的Y7Y8, 你自己來看看, 唔想comment. 只希望明天會更好. 而佢地(某d人啦)唔好影響到小學部的學生就得la.

問題係, 到左Y6, 如果真係有乜問題, 係出唔番去主流中學的. 半天吊真係唔知點好.   
留在LA, 有51%的人一定要考334.
作者: babybaby2010    時間: 11-11-17 17:56

原帖由 小豆媽 於 11-11-17 12:51 發表

我是小學部的家長.
老實講, 呢樣野係我地依家呢班家長"最擔心"的.
教育一定要睇長遠.
小學ok, 開開心心6年係LA sure比到你的, 不過, 到左中學, 點都要面對公開試考大學.
依家的Y7Y8, 你自己來看看, 唔想comment.  ...


你講完, 我真想睇睇Y7Y8既學生係點..
老實講, 2年前知道有宏信
我就開始留意
因我女女出年要報小一了..
宏信既理念真係好正
但我都有從朋友口中知小小宏信既問題
不過我覺得有好多大問題佢地係唔會講...
佢地只會話小朋友返學返得開心就夠..
係咪真係夠呢?
作者: bananalemon    時間: 11-11-17 18:37

咁, 你想問中學部咩問題呢 ??
作者: Gremlin    時間: 11-11-18 07:26

Hi 小豆媽,
好同意你的見解,非常中肯.
學習真的是長遠嘅路途,相信being LA parent都係想俾小朋友有一個enjoyable study life,將來可以面對社會、成功、失敗...(有EQ)
而LA只開辦咗2年,時間尚短;andY7/Y8嘅student都係中途入學,未能真正反影IB +一條龍嘅成效.
你提到日後嘅疑慮...appreciate if you could share your point of view!如何planning???

原帖由 小豆媽 於 11-11-17 12:51 發表

我是小學部的家長.
老實講, 呢樣野係我地依家呢班家長"最擔心"的.
教育一定要睇長遠.
小學ok, 開開心心6年係LA sure比到你的, 不過, 到左中學, 點都要面對公開試考大學.
依家的Y7Y8, 你自己來看看, 唔想comment.  ...

作者: kamtsk    時間: 11-11-18 11:35

唔.......我覺得真係好睇家長的取向. 我知道很多國際小學的小朋友在課餘有上不同的學習班, 我相信宏信的情況也一樣. 但參加其他學習班與否, 就視乎家長的要求.

對於一直有上學習班的小朋友, 我相信小六後跳出宏信, 也不會太難. 當然, 最希望宏信好, 咁大家都唔想走啦!

又或者咁講, 宏信教到的, 並不是在書本上學到的, 反而一些知識的學習, 我們在課外可以很容易找到代替品, 但小朋友現在在宏信學到的, 自己不易教到.
作者: babybaby2010    時間: 11-11-18 14:38

原帖由 kamtsk 於 11-11-18 11:35 發表
唔.......我覺得真係好睇家長的取向. 我知道很多國際小學的小朋友在課餘有上不同的學習班, 我相信宏信的情況也一樣. 但參加其他學習班與否, 就視乎家長的要求.

對於一直有上學習班的小朋友, 我相信小六後跳出宏信, ...


如要再另外出去上學習班
咪即係課餘依然要學習?
選得宏信, 當然希望唔使跳返出去啦..
所以想選之前多些了解學校
唔想到時兩頭唔到岸..
作者: yan814    時間: 11-11-18 16:27

Hi all my friends,

Having been gone through so many valuable feedbacks on the Lutheran Academy, there are many advantages and disadvantages of such elementary school. However, the benefits far outweigh its drawbacks.
General speaking, the major objective in majority of primary schools is to spoon-feed junior children as much as possible. Just like all childish kids, teachers have tried their best to feed all the materials ,which are totally to fufil all the requirements in governmental syllabus, to their pupils. Unfortunately, they did not care so much knowledge where they were able to comprehend or not and would like to pay full attentions what kinds of methods were to feed your children with successful results. Certainly, they are merely to focus on how many scores in public examinations. In fact, it is totally to disapprove from the original principle of the whole person development.

Even though your kids graduate with 1st class in well recognized univerisity, they are unable to apply their skills in their workplaces. Some people would say that they are classified as " High scores -master with inadequately practical skills". For example, an elite ,being graduated from top univerisity with distinct results in public examination, is incapable of seeking appropriate job to earn his living. Finally, he is only to feed himself as a result of welfare subsidy.

In my belief, children-study is a relatively longer learning process not only to nurture themselves with fundamental materials , but also to learn what they have done to contribute their livings.
作者: babybaby2010    時間: 11-11-18 18:04

原帖由 yan814 於 11-11-18 16:27 發表
Hi all my friends,

Having been gone through so many valuable feedbacks on the Lutheran Academy, there are many advantages and disadvantages of such elementary school. However, the benefits far outwe ...


認同你既講法
但係我地所擔心既唔係LA既syllabus
而係LA始終同其他international school唔同
LA始終要有51%讀334
我比較想知到時D同學仔點適應
作者: yan814    時間: 11-11-19 12:27

To some extent, I partly agree with your opinion. If you profoundly consider the future education in the world, it would intend to be open and actively devote themselves into knowledgeable environment , for instance an educational trip, rather than "pen and paper " learning process. Hence, there are many DSS and traditional primary schools to offer many overseas voyages to their pupils. In fact, they believe that there are somethings  missing  from the traditional nurturing.
On the whole, children are our future and education  should be adaptable and practical rather than ancient approaches.  Let me give you an example, English where students ,in elite schools, are experts to remember all the basic rules in grammer books because of intensive training from course tutors. However, they are unable to wirte an essay without distinctively grammatical errors. If the same question is applied to international students, they would manage all of them far away from careless mistakes. The answer is a global student to learn english through reading and writing. As a result, the modern teaching -skills for english is speaking, listening , reading and writing. Additionally, there are many essential elements to be emerged with four principles such as daily work and social life. One such a simple conversation with foreigners is an educational topic  to learn how to be a good communicator rather than speaker. Indeed, children are what they have done to contribute to their livings.
作者: 小豆媽    時間: 11-11-19 21:11

原帖由 yan814 於 11-11-19 12:27 發表
To some extent, I partly agree with your opinion. If you profoundly consider the future education in the world, it would intend to be open and actively devote themselves into knowledgeable environment ...

大家choose LA 都係因為唔再認同/信任現行的教育制度及方式.
大家都是希望為下一代引入有國際水平的教育.
大家都是希望可以有一個開開心心的探索性學習環境給小朋友.
還有好多期望..........

理想....可以好理想, 可惜學校有限制, 未有IB牌, 就算有, 都有51%學生要走回"現實"的334.

暫且不去諗中學, 小學部是OK的.
作者: yan814    時間: 11-11-21 00:14     標題: 回復 1# 小豆媽 的帖子

Hi all parents,

As far as I know your concern, it may be a major reason to generally restrict so many parental decisions that  are how to decide finally educational systems for their children. Even, I have struggled to choose traditional or modern approach. Education, general speaking, is an expensive investment as same as house purchasing. Some parents may choose alternative method. This would be a long investment to buy two properties for their children no matter how to face worse situation. However, in my opinion, practical skill, being learnt from schools,  is sufficient technique to survive.
From my understanding of parental principles, it is an effective way to secret top univerisity place from elite kindergartens to  famous secondary schools. Of course, if your junior teenagers were lucky, then it would be an effective method to follow. Although there are many top students , like high score-winners in public exmainations, to be qualify with 1st Class Honour degree, they are unable to survive in a business jungle. The final answer is how to build up children with the following features.
1. individual thinking
2. creative mind
3. excellent interpersonnal skill
4. initiative
5. Self -confidence
All in all, the issue of dealing with modern approach in education system is based on what is society's aspect.If it is to ensure that children are able to learn what they have requested , then it may be an optimal solution. However, if parent would prefer to accept all tests , internal examinations as an universal indicator which measures pupils how to grade , then it is better to follow your favourable way.
作者: babybaby2010    時間: 11-11-21 10:12

原帖由 小豆媽 於 11-11-19 21:11 發表

大家choose LA 都係因為唔再認同/信任現行的教育制度及方式.
大家都是希望為下一代引入有國際水平的教育.
大家都是希望可以有一個開開心心的探索性學習環境給小朋友.
還有好多期望..........

理想....可以好理想 ...


講得岩..
希望你會繼續分享你既睇法..
作者: yan814    時間: 11-11-22 16:36     標題: Favourable primary school place

Hi all parents,

Yesterday was unlucky to many parents who want to request a place in favourable primary school, because it is hardly to turn your dream coming true due to many secure places for sibling factors. In fact, the success rate of applicants has dropped for five consecutive years, and this year it hit the lowest level since 1997. Only 45.5 per cent out of 45,715 children won a place in government or aided priamry school. However, educational authorities should take this as an example to consider the new bill in order to provide an effective method for place-allocation of primary schools.
Although there is a numerous money to spend on our Hong Kong education systems, the results, sometimes, have turned me down, for instance inapplicable university graduates and pupils , like artifical robot for purpose of examination, with ascending pressure from parents and school tutors.  

Finally, it seems to be a loophole and seldom to find a possible solution. Junior teenagers , under parental stress, have to take all the acaedmic activities so as to secure university place.
作者: yan814    時間: 11-11-24 11:52     標題: opinion

Hi all members,
Having been gone through some news from local paper, I have found there are some interesting topic at how much money spending on a pupil between DSS and ESF as a result of governmental fund. For the DSS, it is offered around 35200 per year. For the ESF, it is around 70% of DSS's subsidy. Hence, it is an evidence to prove education authorities put so much efforts on DSS school rather than ESF. Indeed ESF, under inadequately financial supports, will further consider " spending cut" on their budgets. Thus, if parents would prefer their children to have such qualified education, it would be merely a few choices for them such as international schools. My question is traditional or DSS scshools are not suitable for foreigners or to be classified as moderate level. Perhaps, if you have sufficient free time to do a few study, then you may have a chance to profoundly consider the result beyond. This would be children , who are studying in an international school, not only to be offered with an excellent environment in terms of languages, but also to nurture them the way of thinking rather than spoon-feed them with what they needed for the public examination. Moreover, our junior teenagers are facing a numerous competitors  from Mainland. All of mainlanders are machines with supreme brain powers. If our children, regardless of their genders and national characters, are educated under ancient education system to be dull robots without sensible individual thinking, because it , may be, is a principle for communist to control their people.




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