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作者: angeljojo    時間: 11-11-15 15:31     標題: SFA vs Good Hope

My daughter got waiting in Good Hope and have an offer from SFA.  Is it worth to change in case of getting offer from Good Hope?  Any sharing.  Thanks.
作者: wh0709    時間: 11-11-15 15:50

Seems both homework is a great burden, is single gender affects your choice? I like moral edu and nice campus, esp swimming pool of GH!
作者: jonahlee    時間: 11-11-15 15:57

Good Hope.  All round development
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-15 22:59

原帖由 wh0709 於 11-11-15 15:50 發表
Seems both homework is a great burden, is single gender affects your choice? I like moral edu and nice campus, esp swimming pool of GH!


No free swimming lesson is offered to GH primary girls. A girl can never swim at GH swimming pool unless she attends the paid swimming class organised by outside swim org (e.g. Stanford). It is no difference to outsiders!
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-15 23:10

原帖由 jonahlee 於 11-11-15 15:57 發表
Good Hope.  All round development


GH is not offering all round development!

作者: manyui    時間: 11-11-16 01:57

原帖由 youma 於 11-11-15 23:10 發表


GH is not offering all round development!
Every girl is allowed to join one or none after-school ECA activity.Most of GH girls have never joined any sport teams or music orchestras in GH.P ...

Thank you for your good sharing. How about SFA?
作者: celinapang    時間: 11-11-16 09:35

原帖由 youma 於 11-11-15 23:10 發表


GH is not offering all round development!
Every girl is allowed to join one or none after-school ECA activity.Most of GH girls have never joined any sport teams or music orchestras in GH.P ...

睇完你既POST, 你囡囡是在GH入面讀的嗎? GH 好似好封閉自己甘, 是真的嗎?
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-16 15:35

I chose SFA instead of GH few yrs ago and my friend chose GH instead of SFA. GH has secondary while SFA not but the school fee is very expensive in SS. I chose SFA becoz the std is high and the school fee is reasonable, also I don't want my girl study in girl school for both primary and secondary. Both school are high edu std. The comment from my friend is she would choose SFA if she could have chance to choose again.
作者: RLML    時間: 11-11-16 15:56

其實只要登入GH website, 就看到音樂節的下載表格, 而且還有其他聯校活動, 真的如此封閉嗎? 還是吃不到的葡萄是酸的, 或惡意中傷? 家長要小心判斷. 只是路過, 不喜勿插!
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 21:23

原帖由 RLML 於 11-11-16 15:56 發表
其實只要登入GH website, 就看到音樂節的下載表格, 而且還有其他聯校活動, 真的如此封閉嗎? 還是吃不到的葡萄是酸的, 或惡意中傷? 家長要小心判斷. 只是路過, 不喜勿插! ...


你叫人[不喜勿插], 但你卻先插人! 不過我唔會介意.

一間學校是否鼓勵學生參加音樂節, 不單看有冇下載表格吧? 是否著緊, 鼓勵和各樣配套更重要.
至於speech fest, 每年很多GH girls 都被rejected參加, 你可以自己去查證.
作者: cutebear123    時間: 11-11-16 22:12

My daughter is now studying in GHS(KG) and selected to attend the 63rd Speech Festival.  Even the training is organized in Sat and needed to pay for engaging external teacher, I think the school is willing to let students attend this kind of competition to build up self confidence and gain experience/exposure.   In past Feb, school choir of GHS(KG) is also participating in School Music Festival.  The secondary music teacher from GHS(Secondary) helped to teach the kindergarten students with free of charge.

For GHS(PS), I knew that my friend's daughter is also selected to attend the 63rd Speech Festival.

  

原帖由 youma 於 11-11-16 21:23 發表


你叫人[不喜勿插], 但你卻先插人! 不過我唔會介意.

一間學校是否鼓勵學生參加音樂節, 不單看有冇下載表格吧? 是否著緊, 鼓勵和各樣配套更重要.
至於speech fest, 每年很多GH girls 都被rejected參加, 你可以 ...

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作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 22:15

原帖由 manyui 於 11-11-16 01:57 發表

Thank you for your good sharing. How about SFA?


SFA 的 ECA 應有盡有, 大多沒有限制限量, 只要唔撞時間便可以. 資優生更有gifted classes.
當然, 家長唔敢玩太多.
作者: williskg    時間: 11-11-16 22:20

but there is no secondary support for the sfa. some of the student go to ghs.
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 22:25

原帖由 cutebear123 於 11-11-16 22:12 發表
My daughter is now studying in GHS(KG) and selected to attend the 63rd Speech Festival.  Even the training is organized in Sat and needed to pay for engaging external teacher, I think the school is en ...


You are correct.

The key word is "selected". Most of the girls are not selected.  
But in many schools, e.g. SFA, all students no matter good or not, are allowed to participate in speech fest competitions without limit.
作者: 小天使kiki    時間: 11-11-16 22:26

我呀女同好多同學都有參加朗誦節喎，同埋點解可以rejected?
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 22:32

原帖由 williskg 於 11-11-16 22:20 發表
but there is no secondary support for the sfa. some of the student go to ghs.


It is true. 但sfa 升中學位都唔差, 有家長甚至認為更好.

事實上, 兩間都是熱門好學校.
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 22:38

原帖由 小天使kiki 於 11-11-16 22:26 發表
我呀女同好多同學都有參加朗誦節喎，同埋點解可以rejected?


You are right, 不過, 冇被selected的人數, 比有參加人數更多, 你問下你個女便知.
測試水準較差便被rejected, 好似話係怕影響個人信心, 你問下老師便知.
作者: cutebear123    時間: 11-11-16 22:44     標題: 回復 1# youma 的帖子

Is it normal practice for most of schools, right?  My friend's son is studying in Pui Ching Primary School and the teachers only select a small portion of students to attend this kind of competitions.

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作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 23:14

原帖由 cutebear123 於 11-11-16 22:44 發表
Is it normal practice for most of schools, right?  My friend's son is studying in Pui Ching Primary School and the teachers only select a small portion of students to attend this kind of competitions.


Yes, some schools allow all students to attend speech fest if they wish while some do not. I don't have the statistics.

But as this is almost no cost to a school to put its chop on the form, it is puzzled why schools reject applications. Maybe the main reason that the school rejects applications is for the fame of school.


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作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 23:19

Anyway, don't take my words too serious.

Although GH is not minded to offer all round development (maybe the school want the girls concentrating on the academic), it's no harm. Almost all parents arrange various ECAs for the girls outside.

It doesn't dampen the popularity and academic performance of GH Primary.

Relax.
作者: WCYH    時間: 11-11-16 23:30

In DGJS, only selected stds can attend the speech festival. Certainly, you can join through some centres outside by yourself. In SPCC, even you are selected, you need to have training outside by yourself. For SFA, my friend's son have no duty in the class even requested due to chance for  gifted std mainly , so now change to YWS, very happy and bright, more chances for him to learn.
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-16 23:51

原帖由 WCYH 於 11-11-16 23:30 發表
In DGJS, only selected stds can attend the speech festival. Certainly, you can join through some centres outside by yourself. In SPCC, even you are selected, you need to have training outside by yourself. For SFA, my friend's son have no duty in the class even requested due to chance for  gifted std mainly , so now change to YWS, very happy and bright, more chances for him to learn.


Change to YWS just because no duty in class? 唔係馬?
Studying at SFA and GHS can be happy and bright too.
By the way, the academic levels of SFA and GHS are certainly much higher than YWS.
作者: WCYH    時間: 11-11-17 01:10

If your child is  neglected in the class due to not the gifted std, all parents will be upset. I believe all children have their potential but may not be explored. I am the　伯樂 of my child, so she has chance to develop strength and become confident.
作者: homuimui    時間: 11-11-17 12:36

My friend of Education Bureau who has worked with SFA before. She told me SFA is an outstanding school in Hong Kong. Though the academic level is guite high, teachers teach students with love. She commented that students there can develop their full potential.
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-17 15:57

I think no need to argue. GHS & SFA have the supporters. just sharing the info here not competing. SFA is a good school because their teachers are putting a lot of effort in teaching the kids. GHS is also with high std but as told, not all students are allowed to join the outside competition and the teachers will selected those they think it is good enough to attend. as a parent, I think winning or not important but at least we should let our kids have the right to join if they want to.
作者: tko-parent    時間: 11-11-18 00:00     標題: 回復 25# bau 的帖子

i agree. I think school should not reject a child from joining any competitions. It will do more harm than losing in a competition because this means teachers think you will definitely perform badly from the beginning. If you were the child, how would you feel. Teachers should give courage by telling that if you really want to join the competition, you should work especially harder as you are not speaking loud enough or you should pay extra attention to your pronunication. A shy child can become brave and more confident if he can learn from speaking in front of others. I don't mind training my child by myself but I do mind if a school reject my application. My son is studying at DBSPD. The children are welcome to join any competitions.
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-18 10:21     標題: 回復 26# tko-parent 的帖子

this is also why my friend think GHS is not as good as SFA. Kids need encouragement not discouragement. Winning or not is not the most important thing but we need to encourage them to join and build up their confidence. Even they loss, we can still teach them to accept losing because it will happens all the time when they grow. Today kids cannot afford to loss, we should train them this is not big deal and we should overcome it and take it easy. The main point is to try their best and take every opportunity.
作者: dailam    時間: 11-11-18 11:05

非常非常贊成妳的看法！
作者: WCYH    時間: 11-11-18 11:10

If the school reject my child to join competition, I will join it through other centres. If she can win, I believe the teacher will choose her next year. If cannot win, just for build up the confidence, nothing to loss. Which school is better? No one can tell you. You will meet the caring teacher if you are lucky even not in the top school.
作者: icbb1230    時間: 11-11-18 11:51

如果代表學校參加才得學校蓋章, 又可以理解喎, 學校無理由叫D麻麻地嘅出去代表學校比賽架!

如果真係想參加,咪自己報囉, 無mud問題啫, 無需要唔開心。
作者: Angelakibb    時間: 11-11-18 13:04

冇得選又煩.有得選仲煩.
如果淨比較小學及小朋友係讀書型同父母是有心有時間栽培型, 我傾向sfa .. 男女校,程度高.. 學費合理 .. 小朋友家庭背及理念相若
如果你唔怕六年後"再戰江湖', 就選sfa
否則, gh吧 !都是令人有信心保證的學校,好評劣評其實不用太在意 ...

我識幾個同事囝囡係sfa畢業,對學校有讚冇彈但强調no pain no gain ..我都相信 no free lunch
作者: dvb    時間: 11-11-18 15:20

no pain, no gain
好pain唔一定好gain

路過搭嘴, 不是指某一間學校.
作者: menmen    時間: 11-11-18 15:32

Youma,
It's not the problem of cost to stamp a chop to the application form to let GHS girls to join the speech festival but the limitation of time for those Chinese subject class teachers to give practise and advice to their students.  
If the school let all the girls to join so it will put great burden to the subject teachers. The teachers are impossible to give practise to all students within school time.
If you're not very familiar with the policy of GHS pls don't give too much comments to the school unless you've a girl study in GHS.
作者: bobowing    時間: 11-11-18 17:09     標題: 兩間都有Interview

小女兩間都有In, GH令我有點反感, 學校安排沒有顧及家長感受, 學校禮堂那麼大, 卻要家長在外面 "乾蒸", 小女考6間小學(St Margaret, CKY, KTS, KRS, SFA, Tak Nga) , 覺得蔡繼有, SFA, KTS安排都很好, 我的女兒面試後說, 最喜歡KTS, SFA的老師! 最後我選了SFA !!
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-18 21:58     標題: 回復 33# menmen 的帖子

In SFA, they will send you a circular and notify you there are the speech or music festivals and you can enroll it through school, actually you will not count as absent if you enroll through them. My girl didn't get any training in school, it will not a burden to the school because you need to train yourself and the main pt is they encourage every student to join different kinds of competition as they know it is good for them to get the experience to speak out loud in front of a group of people. they are not asking you must win but they hope you can participate and learn from it even you get no prize
作者: twinsstar1    時間: 11-11-18 22:22     標題: 回復 1# bau 的帖子

if the school does not offer training to every participants and only offer to those "selected ones", then parents will complain too. Unless the school is fair to everyone ... i.e. no training to all!
作者: icbb1230    時間: 11-11-18 23:38     標題: 回復 3# bobowing 的帖子

I remember GH set some tables for parents to fill in the questionnaire, did they ask u go away after fill in it?  

u pick SFA finally, is that meant GH also accepted your girl?  if not from GH kindergarten, you are very lucky.
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-19 09:29

it was few years ago and at that time no GH kinder. many people hold the seats until lucky draw and will release it because the school fee is quite expensive.
作者: cheungmingwai    時間: 11-11-19 10:39

I appreciate SFA to provide great opportunities for students. During 2 times of interview, we met many present students to be helpers like giving no. cards for parents, giving announcement with 3 different languages, sharing school curriculum/ activities from English/ Mardarin Embassadors. I have never seen like this in other schools. SFA provided the practise and learning platform for students to meet other outsiders and parents. Those students are confident and polite to interact with us. I trust the school is a good school.
作者: Gagagogo    時間: 11-11-19 23:47     標題: 回復 16# homuimui 的帖子

just 路過，但真太不認同ED對香港教育所做的一切,所以.......

有感而發,SFA 對一些家長來説是比其他一般小學教得深,教得比人快,香港人精神:快人一步，理想達到.就像其他沒有中學的小學一樣(包括官小）,一定非常吹谷學生來keep著成績，為增取入到band 1中學為己任，否則就沒有市場價值，甚至被殺校。

認識一些SFA家長，他們都是不停為子女孝插班到其他一條龍官津或私校或直資，我想學生和家長在小學幾年裡所受的壓力也不少。
作者: eirisc    時間: 11-11-20 00:04

一句都尾. 冇中學嘅小學都係冇保障.㸃都係有中學好d嫁啦.邊個想六年後又玩一次呢個遊戲.入中學比入小學更難因大部份好中學都有小學.要做到全香港最top個幾位先可以入到去.談何容易.
作者: Carelesswhisper    時間: 11-11-20 00:43

GH有直資中學, 有差不多80%可以由原校小六升上中一! 老實說, 升中搵學校係一件好痛苦既事, 如果吾想再煩, GH同SFA一樣甘高standard, GH校舍又大又新, 而學費又吾係concern, 選GH喇!

溫馨提示: 沒有學校是完美的!
作者: parentslove2    時間: 11-11-21 23:04

I prefer Good Hope!

parentslove
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-21 23:49

原帖由 eirisc 於 11-11-20 00:04 發表
一句都尾. 冇中學嘅小學都係冇保障.㸃都係有中學好d嫁啦.邊個想六年後又玩一次呢個遊戲.入中學比入小學更難因大部份好中學都有小學.要做到全香港最top個幾位先可以入到去.談何容易. ...


都要看間直資中學得唔得.
作者: parentslove2    時間: 11-11-22 00:03

We just talking about primary education now, nobody knows six years later especially the education system just changed the "One dragon system".  We don't know what will happen of those students have a good result or not in 334 public examination for college.

parentslove
作者: youma    時間: 11-11-22 00:06

原帖由 menmen 於 11-11-18 15:32 發表
Youma,
It's not the problem of cost to stamp a chop to the application form to let GHS girls to join the speech festival but the limitation of time for those Chinese subject class teachers to give practise and advice to their students.  
If the school let all the girls to join so it will put great burden to the subject teachers. The teachers are impossible to give practise to all students within school time.
If you're not very familiar with the policy of GHS pls don't give too much comments to the school unless you've a girl study in GHS.




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作者: law_panda    時間: 11-11-22 00:14     標題: 回復 1# angeljojo 的帖子

I will choose SFA!  
Better in Academic.
作者: Gagagogo    時間: 11-11-22 11:22     標題: 回復 2# youma 的帖子

明年有細女考小一,所以都有留意這兩間學校的post.相信各有擁護者,傳統學校自有他們培育學生的一套，身邊很多出於此等學校都很有涵養,但有些conservative,想必定天主教學校的作風罷.
以上有幾位家長雖被人種傷自己的學校,都已包容及客觀的態度回應,高下立見！
個人應為以德育行先及有一間好中學backup的學校為小女選校為首要條件.我都有留意中學那邊post,GH好像在直資/私立中學校排名是A1,如無記錯，位列首5位.經過和阿仔找小學一戰,不得不看長遠些,學習壓力可在12年分担,不再濃縮在小學那6年,尤其經過最近的＂ 10歲5年級學生＂事件。
作者: Ewongmum    時間: 11-11-22 11:43

Totally Agree.   德育 SHOULD BE TEH 1ST PRORITY .
作者: tko-parent    時間: 11-11-22 12:05

其實朗不朗誦只是一個小問題，除了學校，好多 Center 也是朗誦協會會員，可代報比賽。如果一間學校 1000 個學生也要去報名朗誦，吾好話學校，朗誦協會也頂吾順。

傳統學校有自己的「傳統」，家長都要尊重一下這些「傳統」，當然學校行政一定有「改善的空間」。

GH 校舍設備好，有中學直升。

SFA 無中學直升，學校知道自己的弱處，其他方面自然會做多些。

兩間學校都各有千秋。
作者: bau    時間: 11-11-22 13:21

of course no need to argue. SFA's parents of course think they are better so they pick SFA and GH's parents have the points in picking the school. different people have different needs. GHS has secondary but SFA is also good and is a co edu school. really depends what you prioritize? BTW, there are also parents in both school complain their own schools, there is no unique answer for every one. 各取所需. just remember to find one fit you not because other people said it is good.
作者: d2    時間: 11-11-23 10:59

of course SFA.



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