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作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-7-9 17:50 標題: IB provisional result 2012

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RC's result is released (online).

Average score: 33.6
Bilingual diploma: 51 out of 84 students

Any other good news?

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-7-9 18:01

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Shatin College's average: 35.9
South Island School's average: 36.2
Island School's average:35.5
West Island School's average: 35.3

作者: tomintoul 時間: 12-7-9 18:45

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作者: WYmom 時間: 12-7-9 18:49

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The result is very good for ESF as they have 700-800 IB students and they do not screen students except English proficiency.

CDNIS' average IB score is 34.5 this year
ISF's average IB score is 32.8

作者: searcher123 時間: 12-7-9 20:22

how to check it?

作者: mommom017 時間: 12-7-9 20:31

Wow, SIS got really good result!

作者: Maoku 時間: 12-7-9 22:11 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

So, do we have the score of RC's top 10% students?

作者: Maoku 時間: 12-7-9 22:13 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

Does it mean that through train PYP and MYP does not have advantage in getting good IBDP score?

作者: 小wahB 時間: 12-7-9 23:10

Cannot conclude this way. RC only has 6 years history, the students taking IBDP now are not from through train PYP MYP...

作者: student123321 時間: 12-7-10 01:08

英基9學生國際預科文憑試考獲滿分
[18:12] 2012/07/09

【on.cc 東方互動專訊】英基學校協會公布5月應考國際預科文憑試(IB)的成績。協會行政總裁杜茵妮表示，今年共有783名來自6間英基中學的學生應考，共有9人考獲45分滿分，27人取得44分，達40分的學生逾180人，較去年上升8.5%。今年的總平均分為35.4分，較去年的34.3分高。

作者: sschiu 時間: 12-7-10 09:34

英基九生膺 IB 滿分狀元

英基學校協會今年共有九名學生於國際預科文憑（ IB ）中，考獲滿分的四十五分，創下歷年最佳成績。

　　(星島日報報道)國際預科文憑（IB）昨公布成績，英基學校協會轄下六所中學今年共有九位學生考獲四十五分滿分佳績，二十七人考獲四十四分，成為英基推行IB課程以來的最佳成績。狀元之一譚旭宏期望於香港升讀醫科，將來成為醫生回饋社會。亦有印度籍考生Deep Vaze獲哈佛大學取錄，期望可以深入研究貼近生活的經濟學理論。

　　英基學校協會今年共有七百八十三人應考國際預科文憑（IB），協會行政總裁杜茵妮昨公布，今年共有一百八十多位學生考獲四十分或以上成績，比去年增加百分之八點五，當中九人考獲滿分，而考獲四十四分的學生亦有二十七人。學生平均分亦由去年的三十四點三分，增加至今年的三十五點四分。

　

　英皇佐治五世學校學生譚旭宏是九名狀元之一，立志成為醫生的他計畫留港升學，並已獲中文大學醫學院有條件取錄，「經常在新聞中看到香港人手短缺，而且修讀醫科可以終身學習，亦可以幫助別人；選擇在香港升學是因為作為香港人，想回饋香港社會」。

　　去年暑假，他以學生身分到瑪麗醫院，跟一名心胸外科醫生學習一星期，觀察醫生巡房、做手術等日常工作，「一向知道醫生工時長，所以也沒有被嚇倒；醫生是辛苦，但只要喜歡，便會覺得值得」。

　　兩年前在綜合中等教育證書（GCSE）考獲十A*的Deep Vaze，今年再考獲IB滿分，約半年前他已獲哈佛大學取錄，將修讀經濟學系。他認為現存的經濟學理論，不少已過時或未能緊貼現實，期望可深入研究。現時他每月於個人博客上發表經濟評論文章，笑言有不少追隨者。

　　由於父母在港經營家族生意，Deep已計畫畢業後回港工作，四年前更開始學習普通話，「中國經濟增長，學習普通話對將來有幫助」。

　　就讀沙田學院的陳思韻是今年英基狀元之一，已獲中大取錄並頒發五萬元獎學金，她計畫入讀中大法律系，將來成為律師。今年英基學生成績為歷年最佳，杜茵妮認為是由於師生皆汲取過往經驗所致。

　　另外，滬江維多利亞學校亦公布，今年有一名學生取得滿分成績，另有一成學生考獲四十分或以上。

作者: manstap 時間: 12-7-10 10:10

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作者: Hedgies 時間: 12-7-10 10:10

The ESF results are exceptional.. just look at the SIS numbers, 1/3 of its IB students achieved marks of 40+!!

How about the other schools (GSIS, CIS, HKIS)?

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-7-10 10:14

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作者: Annie123 時間: 12-7-10 10:27

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作者: hero_hero 時間: 12-7-10 10:34

本帖最後由 hero_hero 於 12-7-10 10:39 編輯

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4 students achieved the maximum 45 points from King George V School

http://www.esf.edu.hk/IB_2012

作者: sschiu 時間: 12-7-10 11:37

KGV's results are posted on their homepage: http://www.kgv.edu.hk/

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-10 12:35

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Thanks for the sharing.

作者: Mighty 時間: 12-7-10 14:14

Hedgies 發表於 12-7-10 05:10
The ESF results are exceptional.. just look at the SIS numbers, 1/3 of its IB students achieved mark ...

請問SIS是辺間？　SINGAPORE　INTERNATIONAL　SCHOOL?　

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-10 14:18

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South Island School

www.sis.edu.hk

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-7-10 18:43 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

KCIS : 33.5

作者: abebepang 時間: 12-7-10 19:21

How's the result of other IS?
Is there a website to check ?
Thank you

作者: manstap 時間: 12-7-10 20:18

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作者: Mighty 時間: 12-7-10 22:36

IC. Singapore Intl School's result was so good so i thought Hedgies was talking about it. Tks, Annie40. BUT　亞虫話、真正的快樂是忘記数字。

作者: Happymama888 時間: 12-7-11 00:22

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完全同意，依家呢批係半途入去，成績並不是很差，而且開首幾年，間學校急切收生，學生質素參差，有部分係由local school轉來，英語能力相對較弱，幾年間要同其他ESF看齊，談何容易呢？
再者，其他esf 學生有多一個選擇，能力弱d已經考咗igcse走咗，有能力先讀，成績會高一缐！ISF 都係開咗9年，成績都係較弱，RC的成績要多幾年先比較有指標，唯有繼續觀望。

作者: milkmilk071213 時間: 12-7-11 10:03 標題: 回覆：mommom017 的帖子

Singapore international school？

作者: iseult 時間: 12-7-11 16:24

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作者: sks222 時間: 12-7-11 22:10

請問dbs有幾多位學生拿bilingual diploma, 佔百分幾？

謝謝！

作者: 112200 時間: 12-7-12 17:14

Hi mighty, you get singapore international school result ?

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-12 19:11

ISF 1st IB results: on average 32.8% ; 4 out of 23 score above 40
Any comment on ISF results?

作者: ppmummy 時間: 12-7-12 19:22

How about the IB result of Victoria Shanghai Academy?

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-7-12 19:57

維記website有d資料，1個學生考45，10%考40或以上，80%考30或以上

作者: poonseelai 時間: 12-7-12 20:01

Jane1983 發表於 12-7-12 19:57
維記website有d資料，1個學生考45，10%考40或以上，80%考30或以上

VSA's details

http://www.vsa.edu.hk/en/announcements.php?page=announcements.php&id=41

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-12 20:02

May I ask what is the difference between "bilingual diploma" and "IB diploma"?

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-12 22:56

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The result is encouraging.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-12 23:00

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Thanks for your sharing.

VSA's result is very encouraging

作者: sks222 時間: 12-7-12 23:28

RC 和 ISF 拿 bilingual diploma 的百分北很高
其實拿bilingual diploma 重要嗎？
聽說Chinese a 拿5分的，可能在Chinese b可以拿7分

作者: mommom017 時間: 12-7-12 23:58 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

Anybody knows CIS and other IS school result??

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-13 01:15

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sks222 發表於 12-7-12 23:28
RC 和 ISF 拿 bilingual diploma 的百分北很高
其實拿bilingual diploma 重要嗎？
聽說Chinese a 拿5分的， ...

IB website says:-

At present, a bilingual diploma can be awarded to a student who:

• studies two group 1 literature A1 courses in two different languages

• takes a group 3 or 4 subject in a different language

• writes their extended essay in a different language.

http://www.ibo.org/diploma/development/

(We should note that changes will be made next year)

Anyway, I think most of bilingual diploma holders in HK would be students who studies two group 1 literature A1 courses in two different languages. Furthermore, I think the vast majority of these students would be taking English and Chinese as the 2 languages.

If we ask how valuable or important a bilingual diploma is, perhaps we should take into account where the student is from and which 2 languages he takes. For example, if a Chinese student in HK gets a bilingual diploma as a result of him doing English and Chinese, then I think his bilingual diploma would not carry as much weight as if his 2 languages had been English and French or some other foreign language. I guess the same principle applies to a Japanese student from Japan who gets a bilingual diploma as a result of him doing English and Japanese.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-13 07:03

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Dear Shootastar,
In my opinion, ISF results 32.8% is encouraging as well:loveliness:...BUT compared to those other IS, 32.8% average is obviously "on the low side of encouraging range". One of my friend who is going to attend IB exam next year even comment that 32.8% on average is "not so good", So May I ask more your viewpoint? can you share more on the reason of getting 32.8% is encourage? I want to know more only as I m outsider on this system, thanks!!

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-13 13:50

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Dear liyinfai

The average score of ISF is 32.8 point, not 32.8%. The world average is 29.83 points. It has 4 students whose score is 40 or above. Its passing rate is 95% (world figure is 78%).

I agree that if you compare this figure with DBS or other established international schools in Hong Kong such as CIS, LPC or ESF, the average score is lower than theirs. However, bearing in mind that this figure is generated by the first class, I am impressed by its result.

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-13 16:02

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聽說Chinese a 拿5分的，可能在Chinese b可以拿7分
**** *****
Chinese A (SL) 的paper 比Chinese B (HL) 难很多, 上网查passpaper 一看便知!

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-13 16:16

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ISF 都係開咗9年，成績都係較弱，RC的成績要多幾年先比較有指標，唯有繼續觀望。
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今年ISF报考IBD的只不过是20人, 当年由第一班preparation class 升读的学生, 可能在中途已经走光了. 而中学部又收回不少LS和国内新来转读的孩子, 基本不是百分百ISF产品, 2012年有此成绩, 可算是十分有交代了.

其实ISF十分努力, 资源丰富, 如英文科能突围而出, 三五年后, 超于其他IS是不难的!

作者: Littleho 時間: 12-7-13 16:46 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

ISF has extensive scholarship program while other IS does not have . So, are many of ISF graduates (especially those with good grades) under the scholarship program ? This could lift the overall average score .

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-7-13 17:02

據知VSA都會用full scholarship，每年幾十個，全免學費至畢業，以招收成績超好的貧苦學生，以打響招牌。佢個scholarship仲係吳接受維記幼稚園生申請，成績再好都吳益你。

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-13 17:03

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I feel very happy after reading annie40 comment on ISF. ISF is one of the unique school which has strength in both languages plus, an international-approach global school (the school emphasize ISF is not an international school), with an encouraging , at least not bad IB results.

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-13 17:21

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ISF has extensive scholarship program while other IS does not have . So, are many of ISF graduates (especially those with good grades) under the scholarship program ? This could lift the overall average score .
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Oh, not only ISF provides scholarship. In my knowledge those IS with extensive scholarship include CIS, FIS, Discovery College, HKIS and maybe more. By the way, ISF's annual school bus fee is over HK$10,000.- , at least 40% over other IS. I don't think those good brain , no money kids would be attracted to their scholarship easily. So better forget to check it out and count it as a possible element.

作者: michellebaby 時間: 12-7-13 17:42

2012年07月12日星期四
港聞

男拔首屆IB 平均38分超全球, 校方：重學習動機高分欠自律拒收:http://www.hket.com/eti/article/ ... 0e337ee18533-555539

國際預科文憑（IB、International Baccalaureate）上周五放榜，首年有學生應考的拔萃男書院，平均分達38分，高於全球平均29.83分；一人考得45分滿分，獲美國普林斯頓大學取錄，6成考獲入讀劍橋、牛津大學基本要求的38分或以上。

校方表示，IB課程重視學習動機，要求學生自律及妥善管理時間，坦言有成績優秀但學習性向不符的學生，會被拒諸門外。

全球IB考生今年平均分為29.83分，比去年低2.07分，僅約0.2%考生考獲45分滿分；33名男拔的首屆IB學生，平均考得38分，其中45分狀元沃澤鈞將赴美國普林斯頓大學攻讀經濟及金融，考獲44分的劉劻昀及何慶達，則分別於中文大學及香港大學攻讀醫科。

創意批判主動取錄關鍵
9月上任男拔校長的現任副校長鄭基恩昨表示，對首屆IB學生成績感滿意，指學生的主動性及老師投入教學為培育狀元關鍵；他稱，25人的教學團隊中，一半為外籍教師，擴闊學生國際視野，亦有助學生考取好成績。鄭基恩稱，不能比較本地新高中課程或IB課程，哪個對升學前景更有利，學生選課程應視乎其學習動機及升學意向，而校內老師會就學生的性格特質作建議；而學術成績並非校方取錄IB課程學生主要考慮，其主動性、創意及批判思考能力才是關鍵。

男拔經濟科教師兼訓導主任胡家麟解釋，學生學習動機非常重要，除了6科應考學科外，學生亦要兼顧課程鼓勵創意及社會服務的課外活動（CAS，即Creativity, Action, Service）部分，以及撰寫知識理論（TOK，即Theory Of Knowledge）論文，必須主動、自律及妥善管理時間。他直言，有成績優秀學生報讀IB，但學習性向並不符合，都被校方拒諸門外。

棄填鴨教育赴笈拓眼界
滿分狀元沃澤鈞稱，IB課程的老師會教導自己撰寫報考海外大學的個人簡歷，有助海外升學；考獲43分的羅元暉亦認為，本地教育制度較着重背誦，部分學生難在填鴨制度下覓得出路。
個性外向、喜愛參加課外活動的羅憶述，中一時老師曾根據本地課程教他以英文作文，必須背誦「小明要於某一處境下做某些事」，他質疑小明為何一定要這樣，其後他寫自己想寫的文章，終考不到好成績，一度被勸告放棄課外活動。

最後，他根據性向報讀IB課程，認為課程容許學生有個人觀點，亦能繼續參加不同課外活動。羅元暉如今獲倫敦大學學院法律系取錄，經深思熟慮後，他認為自己最想修讀的還是國際關係，現決定先休學一年，到歐洲各地考察政治體制，再報讀相關課程。
撰文:吳淑珊

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-13 17:50

Given that quite a few top students in this first cohort of ISF left ISF for CIS and ESF after grade 10 (common phenomenon for a completely new school with no record), the ISF results indeed exceed my expectation. With 4 of the 23 students achieving 40+, 80% of the students getting a bilingual diploma, and a mean score of 5.91 for both English A and Chinese A, it seems that the school's double language programme is working. Let's see how ISF will fare further down the road.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-13 20:28

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Dear Tingtingting,
Do you know what is the number of ISF candidates sitting for IB exam next year?
Do you know the "student turnover rate" to other International Schools in higher grade ISF class?
Thanks a lot

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-13 22:02

本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-7-13 22:14 編輯

I might be the odd man out, but I expect more from ISF.

Let's compare the IB results of the 3 schools that did IB for the 1st time.

                        ISF             DBS          CSS

Number of          23                33             58
Students

Average             32.8             38             32
Score

40 points          17.4%       33.3%       8.6%
or more

The gap between the results of ISF and DBS are huge, but one may say it's unfair to compare them because DBS' IB students are "double selective".

Comparing the results of ISF and CSS might be more meangful.  Their average scores are about the same.  ISF has 17.4% (4 students) of its students getting 40 points or above while CSS only has 8.6% (5 students) getting it.  As we are taking about a relatively small number of students in each group, the difference in result between the 2 groups doesn't appear to be that big.  However, we must not forget that the school fee of ISF is $160K (excluding the capital levy and capital note etc) while CSS's school fee is only $82K.  If we are to take into account the finance resources put in by each school, I think it's fair to say that parents of ISF should be entitled to expect more from the school.

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-13 23:05 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

I'm not saying that exam result is not important (of course it is), but there are not many schools that offer a truly bilingual immersion programme and at the same time offers a curriculum that is so diverse. In fact, I cannot think of another school that spends two months on the cultural revolution and be so critical of the modern history of China, and at the same time teaches Homer and 詩經 with so much enthusiasm.

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-13 23:09 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

But he way, speaking only for myself, I want my son to be an IB35 Renaissance man than an IB45.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-13 23:27

so Tingtingting, what grade is your son studying ?

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-13 23:31

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We need to be patience for new schools and new programs....

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-13 23:36 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

At the risk of sounding like an ISF apologist, I shall add that ISF does truly embrace diversity. Students who love design and dream to be the next Frank Lloyd Wright can make full use of the first class design tech lab and are encouraged to pursue their dreams; drama lovers can hide themselves in the black box theatre learning everything about sound and lighting. Embracing diversity, accepting difference, seeing not just one but many different ways to success, and being open to the meaning of success, isn't it exactly the purpose of education? In any event, I am confident that in three or four years' time when the first batch of students who have the full benefit of ISF education leave the school, they will wow the world and silence those who doubt the bilingual immersion programme.

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-13 23:49 標題: 引用：回復+tingtingting+的帖子 Dear+Tingtingt

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Dear Tingtingting,

Dear liyinfai, I don't have any figures. As for the turnover rate, as you can imagine, the best students who can easily get into CIS and Sevenoaks have chosen to leave instead of taking a risk with a new school. Quite a number of parents I know take a wait and see attitude. "Why not? If things do not turn out fine, we can always leave. But, for the time being let the kid learn more Chinese and find out more about real Chinese culture", that's kind of the attitude shared by some parents (myself included to a certain extent). I expect the turnover rate to drop as the school becomes more established.

作者: Jane1983 時間: 12-7-14 00:04

其實好多對ISF的批評，部分係因為佢學校實在貴，foundation
year一個月要~12000元，當然要看是否物有所值。如果佢係ESF和CAIS的價錢，大家一定寛容好多。

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 00:19

ANChan59 發表於 12-7-13 23:31
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We need to be patience for new schools and new programs....

I agree. But in practice, if your kid is one of those who are taking the IB exam this year, it would be very difficult to remain patient as any significant improvement in a few years' time will not really benefit your kid. Anyway, I am just commenting on the IB result alone. As tingtingting rightly pointed out, there could very well be other benefits in studying in ISF that are not yet reflected in the IB results and which are valued by the parents more than anything else.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-14 00:22

bobbycheung 發表於 12-7-14 00:19
I agree. But in practice, if your kid is one of those who are taking the IB exam this year, it woul ...

Point taken.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-14 00:27

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What do you mean "double selective" of DBS.?

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 00:36

ANChan59 發表於 12-7-14 00:27
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What do you mean "double selective" of DBS.?

I believe those who get admitted into DBS are top students already. From this group of "selective" students, DBS will again screen for those who are suitable for the IB program. That's why I call them "double selective". I might be wrong. If so, please correct me.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-14 00:44

bobbycheung 發表於 12-7-14 00:36
I believe those who get admitted into DBS are top students already. From this group of "selective" ...

Compare with IS and ESF schools, you are right!
Thanks for your clarification. I just ensure we are on the same page .

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-7-14 00:57

本帖最後由 HKTHK 於 12-7-14 00:59 編輯

This thread makes an interesting read.  Not sure how to interpret all these results.  ISF results look so-so.  Not excited about it and it is not bad either.  A couple of things stood out for me though:

1)  Should one adjust for bilingual diploma?  If so, how should it be done?  The % of bilingual diploma seems to be all over the place from 78% at ISF to 3% at KGV.  [CIS was at 35% for 2011]

2)  South Island and KGV published results for 3 years back.  Interestingly, their results look so-so in 2010 (avg around 33.8 with 10% of students achieving 40+) and then things just took off to now look excellent.  Does anyone know the reasons behind these improvements?

3)  For parents like me who wants to reap the benefit of their Mandarin and English curriculum, how would you interpret the results of Chinese A1 (5.83), Chinese A2 (5.90), English A2 (5.91) for ISF?

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-7-14 01:12

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Agree with most of your message but am surprised that you adjust results based on cost of tuition. Does any ranking of universities adjust for costs?

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 01:24

HKTHK 發表於 12-7-14 01:12
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Agree with most of your message but am surprised that you adjust results ba ...

I am a C9. I thought if you put more resources into it, the outcome would be better. Of course, the school might have spent the money on other areas of learning not related to IB. This I don't know. But then if we are talking about a capital note of HK$4.5M each, we are really talking about huge sums here.

作者: kfy 時間: 12-7-14 01:34

Well I cannot speak on behalf of ISF parents with kids taking IB exam. As an ISF parent with kid still too young to talk about IB exam, I honestly think the graduating class are doing fine and I am proud of them.

Sometimes all the discussions about ISF eventually convert into the same old argument -> because it's charging such a high tuition fee, it must deliver! "True bilingualism" "High IB scores" "Best university placement" ... whatever...

I find it uneasy because the above deliverables can only be achieved by the students themselves, with the schools, teachers and parents as the facilitators and enablers. Then, the real meaning of the argument becomes -> Because your parents are paying such a high tuition fee, you must deliver! "True bilingualism" "High IB scores" "Best university placement" ... whatever...

May I say ISF is just a school. As a parent I do not need to "believe" it because it is not a mystery or religion. I would never ask a school to keep their promise ... I only ask for promise from my husband ...

BTW, I am reading a book "Thinking, Fast and Slow" written by Daniel Kahneman. He talks about "priming" (pp. 55 - 56). Quote: "Living in a culture that surrounds us with reminders of money may shape our behavior and attitudes in ways that we do not know about and of which we may not be proud." It certainly gives me some insights.

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 01:47

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HKTHK 發表於 12-7-14 00:57
This thread makes an interesting read. Not sure how to interpret all these results. ISF results lo ...

1)  Not quite sure what you meant by "adjusting for bilingual diploma".  Anyway, as ISF spent a lot of time learning Chinese, I guess that's reason why 78% of its students are able to get a bilingual diploma by taking English and Chinese.  (Please correct me if I am wrong)  If you don't take Chinese, it's by no means easy to do another foreign language instead.  For example, if you look at the 2011 IB result of FIS, only 6 out of 19 students got bilingual diploma and I don't even know if they all did French.  Some of them could well be doing Chinese as well.
2)  I think all ESF schools had their first batch of IB students graduated in 2009 (except Shatin College which started IB a few years earlier).  I guess they just get better after doing it for a few years.
3)  Perhaps you could look at them in the light of CIS's result.  This is their result for 2011.
http://www.cis.edu.hk/admin/upload/CIS_IBDP_Grade_Distribution_2011(3).pdf

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-7-14 01:54

It doesn't feel right for me to judge a student's achievement on how much cost or effort was involved. By this argument, do you think a student is better if they achieve the same score but spent less time studying?

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 02:00

kfy 發表於 12-7-14 01:34
Well I cannot speak on behalf of ISF parents with kids taking IB exam. As an ISF parent with kid sti ...

I rather to have my wife asking for promise from the school than from me.

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 02:39

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HKTHK 發表於 12-7-14 01:54
It doesn't feel right for me to judge a student's achievement on how much cost or effort was involve ...

Interesting.  First of all, we have got to define what we are after.  I am sure there are parents who do not put much weight on the IB result.  As tingtingting said, she wants her son to be an IB35 Renaissance man than an IB45.  It's a decision I respect.  However, for others, the IB result is important if his son wants to get into a better university and/or doing the course he wants.  If you are one of these parents, would you like your money be spent effectively on achieving this goal?  If you spend a few million dollars more, would you like the school to use these sums to employ better teachers and get better facilities etc?  If these teachers and facilities can't get you a point more than the school next door which has a lot less resources, shouldn't we ask why?  Is it too much to expect perhaps a slightly better result?  Of course, the students play a part in it as well.  But in the case of ISF and CSS, I wouldn't say the calibre of CSS students in general are higher than that of ISF.

As to your 2nd question, if I spend all day studying but I still get the same point as another student who spends only one hour per day on it, shouldn't I ask why?  Could it be something wrong with my approach or method?

As I said, I am commenting on the IB result alone.  For those parents who have different priorities, my comments are probably irrelvent.

By the way, does any parent know how many ISF students took English A2?

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-14 07:31

I have no further comment on IB results! BUt I must say I m putting emphasis on IB results .
Bty, may i ask all parents here how to improve or prepare your kids to get a better IB results? Any special approach? Any examination-orientated reference books recommended? Thanks again

作者: iamfine 時間: 12-7-14 07:36 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

There are something more than just IB results. At some schools, summer interns at Cathay Pacific, UBS and DLP are just a phone calls away, and kids grow up with successors to ...

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-14 08:42

liyinfai 發表於 12-7-14 07:31
I have no further comment on IB results! BUt I must say I m putting emphasis on IB results .
Bty, ma ...

In that case， why IB？
Try HKDSE，GCEAL，or SAT...... So many tuition centers in town.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-14 09:07

so any tuition centre tailored made for IB?
I want to kids have good I B results awith enjoyable learning environment and also getting a good master of chinese culture as well

作者: HKTHK 時間: 12-7-14 10:41

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I am just not familiar with IB results since my kids are young. Just wanted to see if the level of difficulty is much higher if one is going for a bilingual diploma. And if that is the case, a lower score is then warranted?
Interesting, looks like the ESF schools really improved.

I did look at CIS results already. They gave lots of detailed breakdown. Wish other schools would share that level of detail for comparison.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-14 11:23

logically, if the school don't like to release the details of IB results, the results may not be so good

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-7-14 12:05

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作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 12:06

本帖最後由 bobbycheung 於 12-7-14 12:24 編輯

liyinfai 發表於 12-7-14 11:23
logically, if the school don't like to release the details of IB results, the results may not be s ...

Each school has its own policy. Schools such as GSIS don't disclose its results to the public. There are other schools who would put their results on the front page of their websites when they are good, but hide it somewhere when they are bad. But in general, one thing is for sure. If they choose to tell you about the result, you will only hear about the goodies.

作者: Mighty 時間: 12-7-14 12:15

That is why GSIS is always almost the best school in Hong Kong. Keeping a low profile but working hard.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-14 12:29

I would have thought that no doubt GSIS is one of the best international schools in Hong Kong, it would not be almost the best school in Hong Kong. To quote you some examples:- QC, BPS, DGS, DBS, SPCC, they are the top schools in Hong Kong, not necessarily inferior to GSIS.

If we discuss international schools, I think CIS is as good as GSIS, if not better.

作者: bobbycheung 時間: 12-7-14 12:29

Mighty 發表於 12-7-14 12:15
That is why GSIS is always almost the best school in Hong Kong. Keeping a low profile but working h ...

Perhaps they believe in "familiarity breeds contempt".

作者: mommom017 時間: 12-7-14 14:21

bobbycheung 發表於 12-7-14 12:06
Each school has its own policy. Schools such as GSIS don't disclose its results to the public. Th ...

Agree, students from GSIS last year got into Harvard, Oxford, Cambridge,Upenn, etc.. but they don't really " Advertise" about it.

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-14 15:03

Again, if I want my kids learn good Chinese in an international school with good IB results, any suggestion besides CIS??
(one of student in CIS told me the chinese among students there actually is not so good)

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-14 23:33

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Maybe you can consider ISF's bilingual IB program.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-14 23:45

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There are quite a number of international schools (such as CIS, LPC, ESF or HKIS) had students been admitted to Harvard/Yale/Princeton or other Ivy colleges or Ivy equivalants such as U Chicago, Stanford, MIT, CIT, Northwestern, JHU or Williams, Amherst etc. last year. But I could not find any advertisements made by them. I found the information from their webpages only. Do the postings on the webpages amount to "advertise"?

作者: liyinfai 時間: 12-7-15 13:12

thank you Shootastar. I want to learn more about how to tackle IB exam from all of you

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-16 10:37

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jane and hy,

Thank you for letting me know the current school bus fee. My girl's school is much cheaper even she doesn't need the services.

annie

作者: 112200 時間: 12-7-16 18:25

FYI GSIS is not running under IB. So no IB result from GSIS for sure,

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-16 23:10

112200 發表於 12-7-16 18:25
FYI GSIS is not running under IB. So no IB result from GSIS for sure,

I also have the impression that GSIS is switching from GCE AS/AL to IB too. You are right, refer to the website, they are still GCE focus in English Stream.
Thanks....

作者: annie40 時間: 12-7-17 13:22

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The first batch of GSIS students will take IB examination in 2016. I believe they would have well preparation and earn impressive results.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-17 13:41 標題: 回覆：annie40 的帖子

I am confident that they will have flying color results.

作者: ivankan 時間: 12-7-17 15:15

LPC HK Students IBDP 2011 Average Score is over 38 more than DBS
http://www.lpcuwc.edu.hk/uploads/doc/2001-2011-comparison2.pdf

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-7-17 15:34

Thanks for sharing. But there is no figure for 2012.

作者: ivankan 時間: 12-7-17 17:10

may be later

作者: ghostbuster2000 時間: 12-7-17 17:15

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作者: slamai 時間: 12-7-17 22:57

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The results only show that students can obtain good results in IB DP without going through PYP / MYP. MYP should be able to give the student an advantage in DP, especially in EE, TOK and CAS.

作者: tingtingting 時間: 12-7-17 23:15 標題: 回覆：IB provisional result 2012

Some people get it wrong. The MYP is designed to produce all rounded and open-minded students with a passionate character. It has nothing to do with exam result.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-18 10:09

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Thanks for your sharing.

作者: ANChan59 時間: 12-7-18 10:13

slamai 發表於 12-7-17 22:57
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The results only show that students can obtain good results in IB DP without goin ...

I share your view.
What do you think the difference between Pre-IB and MYP?

Personally, I guess PYP is a good curriculum, but other curriculum may serve similar purpose.

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