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作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-13 08:38 標題: $$$$ ESF Nomination Rights Scheme $$$$

ESF Nomination Rights SchemeThe ESF Nomination Right Scheme has been introduced to replace the Corporate Surety Scheme.
Children whose parents apply for Nomination Rights will gain the opportunity for priority placement in an ESF school*, provided that they meet the admissions requirements.
The scheme costs HK$500,000 for each child and it will be available for all year groups including Years 1 and 7.
At the time of application for Nomination Rights, parents have to put down a deposit of HK$50,000 but do not need to pay the balance until their child has been offered a place after the admissions interview. The HK$50,000 deposit will be wholly refunded if the child is unsuccessful at the interview. However, the nomination rights payment will be non-refundable if the parents decide to give up the place later on.
The scheme will be open to all but during the first month after it opens priority will be given to applicants from overseas and overseas passport holders currently residing in Hong Kong with conditional terms of stay.
The proceeds raised under the new scheme will be exclusively reserved for the funding of ESF’s school capital projects.
We hope that this will be seen by the business community as a step forward in making places available to the children of incoming and resident employees. Previously under the Corporate Surety Scheme we were not able to offer places in the first year of primary school. The new scheme will be made available for application at least a year in advance, and this gives companies and individuals greater assurance about children’s access to education.
The Nomination Rights Scheme will be open for application from 9:00 am on 3 October 2012 for students seeking admission to ESF schools in August 2013 and thereafter.
*The scheme is not applicable for entry to Learning Support Classes and Jockey Club Sarah Roe School (due to separate application process), Discovery College, Renaissance College and the four ESF International Kindergartens.

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-9-13 08:52

Seems that this plan is for reserving 150 seats every year for expatriates. So now RC/DC's nomination cost will be $100K less than other ESF schools?

(綜合報道)(星島日報報道)繼開徵建校費後，英基學校協會再度為建校及維修校舍推出開源新措施，下月推出提名權計畫（Nomination Rights），家長若先為每名學生購買五十萬元的提名權，只要達到入學要求，即可獲優先分配學位，首年名額一百五十個，預計每年可集資七千五百萬元。有教育界人士認為，英基的新措施有助吸納外資企業員工的子女入讀。
　　英基學校協會管理局通過推出提名權計畫，取代以往的企業保證計畫，並把申請對象擴至在港及即將來港學生，申請學位不限年級。新計畫之下，家長可在十月三日起，為明年八月入學的子女申請提名權，每名學生五十萬元，尚未來港、持有外國護照、有條件逗留的已來港申請者將獲優先處理。新計畫不包括英基屬下的學習支援班、四所英基國際幼稚園、啟新書院、智新書院及賽馬會善樂學校。
　　申請提名權計畫的家長，須繳交五萬元按金，其餘四十五萬元則須在子女面試成功並獲取錄後付清，若學生面試不成功，按金將全數退還；但家長在接受學位並繳付餘款後，即使最終放棄學位，所付款項將不獲退還。英基發言人指，提名權計畫收入將全數預留學校基建項目之用；至於學校營運開支，則來自學費收入及政府資助，兩者為獨立帳目。
　　英基學校協會管理局司庫Robert Gazzi解釋，英基的財政策略目標是每十年籌得十億元，讓所有學校設施維持良好狀態，並在需要時進行重建；隨學校建築物樓齡漸高，期望提名權計畫能為英基每年帶來七千五百萬元收入，解決財政上的需要。
　　英基主席唐家成亦稱，以往企業保證計畫不提供第一及第七班（相當於小一及中一級）的學位，而新設的提名權計畫不設限制，更在一年前預留學位，對商界更有保障，讓企業更容易為新來港的海外員工子女安排入學。
　　一直關注國際學校議題的新民黨執委施俊輝指，相信英基新設的提名權計畫，有助吸引外資企業為派駐香港員工的子女入讀，但外資員工選擇國際學校往往有一籃子考慮，如課程特色、校舍配套、學費、畢業生出路等，刻下難以預計成效。至於本地中產家庭方面，施俊輝認為五十萬元對心儀國際學校的中產家長仍是負擔之內，相信影響不大。

作者: Mighty 時間: 12-9-13 09:45

不知有没有国籍分配QUOTA,千奇不要大陸化亜！！！

作者: CWMom 時間: 12-9-13 09:47

Except for big joint venture corporations, I wonder how many local middle-class families are actually going to purchase the Right given it is not refundable at all.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 10:21

If the expatriates families only stay in HK for one or two years, that extra $500,000 will be high expense for companies to pay for each expatriate's kid, especially when a family has more kids.

作者: Jackieson 時間: 12-9-13 10:55

"五十萬元對心儀國際學校的中產家長仍是負擔之內，相信影響不大" 開玩笑啦!!

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 11:00

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If a family has 2 or 3 kids will be a huge expense...

作者: I/LOVE/3T 時間: 12-9-13 11:31

上星期一早上八點幾經過RC門口，見到有十幾人排隊交 nomination right 申請表。

作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-9-13 11:45

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是的，據講有超過30位家長交了form。

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 11:55

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是的，據講有超過30位家長交了form。

Wow, so many rich people.

作者: Shootastar 時間: 12-9-13 11:56

ESF is making money. That is why the Education Department refuses to increase the public money to them.

作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-13 11:59

個人建議 : 最好收 $1M, 看看有沒有人報，出得起$，一定有選擇!!!!

作者: Hedgies 時間: 12-9-13 12:12

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It depends on whether PRC passorts are considered to be overseas passports (which I think are)..

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 12:18

Mighty 發表於 12-9-13 09:45
不知有没有国籍分配QUOTA,千奇不要大陸化亜！！！

俾錢買優先interview 啫，個學生都要pass倒English interview 先收嘅。

作者: kfy 時間: 12-9-13 13:11

OKmom 發表於 12-9-13 12:18
俾錢買優先interview 啫，個學生都要pass倒English interview 先收嘅。

um... 不要小看小朋友。可以拿出 $50萬買提名權的家庭，難道沒有資源去學好英文嗎。

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 13:22

kfy 發表於 12-9-13 13:11
um... 不要小看小朋友。可以拿出 $50萬買提名權的家庭，難道沒有資源去學好英文嗎。
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我意思是新policy是要收$500,000去優先interview 而不能買學位，不必擔心學校胡亂收生。任何小朋友能pass interview ，學校如果有位也應該收，不應分那國藉。

作者: vivicui 時間: 12-9-13 13:41

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作者: Mighty 時間: 12-9-13 13:44

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在一個一国両製下、CHINESE PASSPORT応不算OVERSEAS　LOR

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 14:08

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vivicui 發表於 12-9-13 13:41
權計畫毕业后可以转售吗？

用$500,000 來買interview 機會，交咗$500,000之後先唔讀都無得攞番，所以係不能轉售。

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 14:11

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如果俾咗$500,000去入學，讀兩年就離校，咁就真係好貴。

作者: cppc20 時間: 12-9-13 14:26

如果一心唸住讀十幾年,計落都比其他IS平.

作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-13 14:55

相信對今年度的申請者影響不是太大，如報ESF, 1/9/12 就報，不會想太多，優先與否，如想優先，一早就RC or DC,其次有錢個班家長，ESF不是他杯茶！

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 15:02

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In the past few years, all international schools placements became more and more sought after

作者: cppc20 時間: 12-9-13 15:21

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我就反而覺得本來有機會入ESF, 例如Cat 1 同Siblings,就有點頭痕.突然多了150 NRs.

作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-13 15:37

Cat 1 and Siblings Never Pay NR
Cat 2 and .........

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-9-13 16:01

This scheme is to replace the Corporate scheme, so it is used for reserving spaces by the overseas parents who are coming to work in HK...so it is not for Cat 2 but more for Cat 1.

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-9-13 16:11

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作者: cppc20 時間: 12-9-13 16:15

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But I heard that even siblings are not a sure thing for a place in ESF now.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 16:26

Annie123 發表於 12-9-13 16:11
即係，除了 rc/dc，全部 esf 都有這個新安排，似乎 esf 真係經濟上有點問題

I saw from other source that rc also has its own nomination scheme.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 16:28

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WYmom 發表於 12-9-13 16:01
This scheme is to replace the Corporate scheme, so it is used for reserving spaces by the overseas p ...

If the new scheme affects Cat 1, in turns it will affect Cat 2 who wait behind Cat 1. ie. placements will be filled up by the higher priorities first, then Cat 2 has even slimmer chance.

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-9-13 16:29

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作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 16:34

Annie123 發表於 12-9-13 16:29
我寫得不好
我想說，是除了 rc/ dc 有這安排，現在 esf 也有

ic. I believe subsidy from government is far from enough for ESF to cover the cost of the ongoing maintenance of their campuses.

作者: Owens 時間: 12-9-13 16:41

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Agreed!Nothing to do with helping the overseas families, it's simply a market-driven approach.
Would love to see the statistic showing the number of overseas families subscribing the NR vs local families (again it would be difficult to tell as a lot of HK citizens holding foreign passports)
I personally have nothing against this gimmick / scheme as it is a free market.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 17:02

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Owens 發表於 12-9-13 16:41
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Agreed!Nothing to do with helping the overseas families, it's simply a market- ...

A maximum of 150 nomination rights will be issued per year, it is open to all but during the 1st month priority will be given to overseas applicants or residents with foreign passport. All NR applicants are processed in date received.
As the scheme is open to all, so its' obvious that the main purpose is to raise funding for capital projects.

作者: Annie123 時間: 12-9-13 17:09

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作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 17:22

Annie123 發表於 12-9-13 17:09
其實，esf 經濟一向都很緊，不單 esf 家長知，外面的人都知，只是有些人覺得不想提。
但話說回頭，的確多 ...

同意。NR gains interview priority, they still have to pass the interviews to be admitted. 所以不影響收生質素。

作者: lui 時間: 12-9-13 20:24

cppc20 發表於 12-9-13 14:26
如果一心唸住讀十幾年,計落都比其他IS平.

Exactly!!!HKIS and CIS cost you 180K every year.

作者: lui 時間: 12-9-13 20:28

CIS changes their admission process this year. The application fee is now 2000 where you may not be granted for an interview. If you are granted, then another 2000 which is the assessment fee has to be paid. but still, that doesn;t mean you will be offered a place. Seems like more and more ppl s want to get in IS.'

作者: 21Ckid 時間: 12-9-13 21:19

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總共有多少位？我朋友昨天問過仍有NR可認購。她正和老公炒緊，畢竟，40萬不是小數目，更何況RC不像ESF港島部分學校的知名度。

作者: saikungmom 時間: 12-9-13 21:33 標題: 回覆：polyu4537 的帖子

Sibling is before nomination right

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 21:42

saikungmom 發表於 12-9-13 21:33
Sibling is before nomination right

Yes. NR is only on the third priority, it is after teachers' children and sibling priority.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-13 21:50

In order to apply for NR, applicant has to pay $50,000 deposit for interview priority. What if a child with NR has passed the interview but reject the offer, will that $50,000 deposit be forfeited?

Wow, if it is the case. This interview charge is very expensive then.

作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-9-13 21:59 標題: 回覆：21Ckid 的帖子

NR Quota of RC: 60

作者: cppc20 時間: 12-9-14 09:02 標題: 回覆：OKmom 的帖子

Tricky thing is that is priority for interview. What if all the NR kids pass the interview but the siblings are too many as well. What would ESF choose?

作者: WYmom 時間: 12-9-14 09:26

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They have set quota for NR applicants, 150 for all ESF primary and secondary schools... so it's around 10 per school only. It should not affect siblings.

作者: OKmom 時間: 12-9-14 09:41

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cppc20 發表於 12-9-14 09:02
Tricky thing is that is priority for interview. What if all the NR kids pass the interview but the s ...

No, it will not happen. They prioritize the school wait list with teacher's children first, sibling, then NR nominees and so on. Then they interview them in the order of this prioritised list, so you'll see it only affects those are originally at the bottom part of the list. BTW, a maximum of 150 NR nominees in total will be issued for any grades within 14 ESF schools, this figure (150) is not that significant in all ESF wait lists as a whole.

作者: bbdmami 時間: 12-9-14 09:47 標題: 回覆：Radiomama 的帖子

I read the details on web lately.... seems like RC has quietly taken away '60'..

作者: bbtigger 時間: 12-9-14 12:26

According to ESF's web page, the quota of 150 is for this year, since somebody has enrolled in ESF through the corporate scheme. Therefore, if the corporate scheme becomes history in next few years, I wonder ESF will still keep the quota of 150.

作者: epsonprinter 時間: 12-9-14 15:34 標題: 回覆：$$$$ ESF Nomination Rights Scheme $$$$

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作者: 新人王 時間: 12-9-14 18:30 標題: 回覆：$$$$ ESF Nomination Rights Scheme $$$$

The NR is not fair even it's only buying an interview chance. After all it's the school's decision as to how many NR children to take, therefore if the school is short of money they may tend to take more children with money even they may not be up to the standard. For the school it could recruit more children with money while other more competitive children lose chances.

作者: fwc 時間: 12-9-14 21:16

如果正在就讀esf小學的小朋友將來升讀year 7需不需要面試? 是不是直升? 那麼提名費對他們有沒有影響?

作者: lui 時間: 12-9-14 21:52 標題: 引用：如果正在就讀esf小學的小朋友將來升讀year+

原帖由 fwc 於 12-09-14 發表
如果正在就讀esf小學的小朋友將來升讀year 7需不需要面試? 是不是直升? 那麼提名費對他們有沒有影響?
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所有esf primary 是保證直升小學的。

作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-17 10:09

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Nobody know !!!! overall have 60.

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-9-17 18:42 標題: 引用：Quote:OKmom+發表於+12-9-13+12:18+俾錢買

原帖由 kfy 於 12-09-13 發表
um... 不要小看小朋友。可以拿出 $50萬買提名權的家庭，難道沒有資源去學好英文嗎。
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對呀！

作者: FennieMan 時間: 12-9-17 22:37 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+fwc+於+12-09-14+發表如果正

原帖由 lui 於 12-09-14 發表
所有esf primary 是保證直升小學的。

錯！一樣要interview, 唔保証直升，每年都有少數小朋友升唔返英基小學。

作者: lui 時間: 12-9-17 23:01 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+lui+於+12-09-14+發表所有esf

原帖由 FennieMan 於 12-09-17 發表
錯！一樣要interview, 唔保証直升，每年都有少數小朋友升唔返英基小學。

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I mean go straight into secondary . Mistype 小學

作者: Glossimar 時間: 12-9-18 09:26 標題: 回覆：$$$$ ESF Nomination Rights Scheme $$$$

英基小學學生只需申請入讀year 7，不用面試，根據地址派往所屬地區中學。

外來生報讀英基中學，不論任何年級均需面試。

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作者: C_D_E 時間: 12-9-18 10:52

One basic question: so if a "NR" is admitted to ESF and fully pay the $500,000, that amount is not refundable at all? Meaning $500,000 extra of full course of education?

Anyone can answer? Thanks.

作者: FattyDaddy 時間: 12-9-18 10:58

C_D_E 發表於 12-9-18 10:52
One basic question: so if a "NR" is admitted to ESF and fully pay the $500,000, that amount is not r ...

It is neither refundable nor transferable, think of it as a one-off donation to the school.

作者: C_D_E 時間: 12-9-18 11:09

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Thx for your reply. A "one-off donation" is a good descriptor for this then . . . . .

作者: Glossimar 時間: 12-9-18 17:46

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At the time of application for Nomination Rights, parents have to put down a deposit of HK$50,000 but do not need to pay the balance until their child has been offered a place after the admissions interview. The HK$50,000 deposit will be wholly refunded if the child is unsuccessful at the interview. However, the nomination rights payment will be non-refundable if the parents decide to give up the place later on.

作者: C_D_E 時間: 12-9-19 15:21

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Well . . . and the fact being that the fund is NOT refundable even you take the offer and complete the education. Pls correct me if I'm wrong.

作者: Glossimar 時間: 12-9-19 19:30 標題: 回覆：C_D_E 的帖子

Yes you are correct.

作者: eneresnat 時間: 12-9-24 11:38

May I ask if the nomination rights will affect the chance of kids in ESF kindy going to ESF primary?

作者: sschiu 時間: 12-9-24 14:05

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The nomination rights applicants will come before ESF kindy children on the priority, but there are only 150 places for nominations rights.

作者: FennieMan 時間: 12-9-24 22:21

For sure, if the kids in ESF kindy is Cat. 2, the chance to get in to ESF primary is less than before.

eneresnat 發表於 12-9-24 11:38
May I ask if the nomination rights will affect the chance of kids in ESF kindy going to ESF primary?

作者: polyu4537 時間: 12-9-25 21:57

My friend sent the mail ask RC / DC, They said that NR have fully.
DC : 30

RC : 60

作者: bigbighei 時間: 12-9-25 22:31 標題: 引用：My+friend+sent+the+mail+ask+RC+/+DC,+The

原帖由 polyu4537 於 12-09-25 發表
My friend sent the mail ask RC / DC, They said that NR have fully.
DC : 30

嘩：RC year 1 est 128個位，提名權佔佐60個，咁即係得返68個位，Cat 1同當中仲有啲有哥哥姐姐係度讀，咪其實Cat 2 仲會唔會有位呢？

作者: Radiomama 時間: 12-9-26 09:52 標題: 回覆：bigbighei 的帖子

There are 6 classes with 28ppl /class = 168 places in RC.

作者: lemon 時間: 12-9-27 01:19

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但不是說不適用於Renaissance College 嗎？我很知道呢！

作者: sschiu 時間: 12-9-27 22:41 標題: 回覆：lemon 的帖子

Renaissance College has their own Nomination Rights Scheme. Check their website.

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