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(叩門)港島民生vs聖馬可   [複製鏈接]

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發表於 17-7-9 14:08 |顯示全部帖子
mansum92 發表於 17-7-8 22:59
聖馬可不接受同區扣門
接唔接受同區扣門,其實好睇籌碼

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發表於 17-7-9 19:33 |顯示全部帖子
patpat234 發表於 17-7-9 15:40
民生有咩好?
可能覺得容易啲?

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發表於 17-7-11 09:38 |顯示全部帖子
mami42 發表於 17-7-11 02:38
其實聖馬可仲好過港島民生
有啲家長將九龍民生同港島民生混淆咗。


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發表於 17-8-4 17:26 |顯示全部帖子
afternoontea372 發表於 17-8-4 01:12
講多無謂,數據最實際。
有數據,有真相。

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發表於 17-8-5 10:51 |顯示全部帖子
UTB 發表於 17-8-5 01:14
學校DSE的整體成績 = 學校自己的學業成績表,反映學校在教學上的表現。
Yes and No
個人意見係唔可以太單純去睇。
首先學校既DSE的整體成績,受好多因素影響。而小朋友比較容易受朋輩影響,環境好重要,所以無可否認係一間成績好啲既學校,係有一定好處。
第二,自己小朋友既成績,未必同其他同學既成績有 correlation(相關性),即使有相關性,亦未必有 causality。所以個人努力永遠比環境更重要。

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發表於 17-8-5 19:10 |顯示全部帖子
mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 13:07
點解選修科D選修學生數字咁少?最多那科BAFS得47,約班半;M2得20,完全冇M1。 ...
呢個真係正常現象,所以分析時需要考慮呢個因素。有啲學校只准學生揀兩科,有啲學校准許學生揀三科加M1/M2。有啲學校唔會強迫學生drop科,但係有啲會(想做靚條數),所以除咗睇成績外,都需要睇人數。

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發表於 17-8-5 21:28 |顯示全部帖子
mrs.lo 發表於 17-8-5 20:43
想請教一下王家爸爸& hkpapa852,全面來體聖馬可好啲定港島民生好啲呢?
我覺得聖馬可同港島民生差別唔大,但係個人比較鍾意聖馬可。純粹係個人比較鍾意睇辯論比賽。

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發表於 17-8-5 22:39 |顯示全部帖子
mama_papa 發表於 17-8-5 22:31
"王家爸爸":
請問正常現象是指甚麼?我真係睇唔出。
整靚盤數

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發表於 17-8-6 11:20 |顯示全部帖子
MMVV 發表於 17-8-5 23:10
聖馬可始终傳統歴史長好多!以前校舍在筲箕灣尾尾。
最早係中西區既己連拿利。

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發表於 17-8-6 22:41 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 17-8-6 12:34
I am just opposite, because I don't like the secondary school stopped the through train years back.  ...
I would say the two schools are equally good.  But for those who love writing and debate, St. Mark's School is better.

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發表於 17-8-6 22:43 |顯示全部帖子
MMVV 發表於 17-8-5 23:10
聖馬可始终傳統歴史長好多!以前校舍在筲箕灣尾尾。
兩校差別唔大,但係其實英文同通識成績都有啲啲差距。
http://www.imsc.edu.hk/pages/hkdse.html

http://www.stmarks.edu.hk/sms2/index.php/academic/academic-results/10-academic-results/594-hkdse-2017

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發表於 17-8-6 22:49 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 17-8-6 12:27
回覆 hkpapa852 的帖子

Just for discussion.
Not really.  Because every St. Mark's student takes more elective subjects, they have higher chance to get higher best 5 scores.

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發表於 17-8-7 09:25 |顯示全部帖子
bluestar3000 發表於 17-8-7 02:54
我識得有位中學老師,佢真係要成績差的學生drop選修科(校長落order),所以我揀中學唔太睇選修科盤數係點 ...
我睇法相似,其實我反而擔心港島民生既主科合格率,其中通識科明顯同B1水平有啲啲距離。B2B既2+率=89%,4+率=36%;
MS既2+率=98.6%,4+率=49.6%。

% of 4+

HK average

SMS

MS

English Language

26

87

59

Chinese Language

27

49

44.6

Mathematics

40

75

80.6

Liberal Studies

36

70

49.6



% of 2+

HK average

SMS

MS

English Language

77

100

100

Chinese Language

85

100

98.6

Mathematics

81

100

100

Liberal Studies

89

100

98.6




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發表於 17-8-7 09:43 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 17-8-7 01:17
From the table, the % of 4+ is higher than St Mark, more electives not necessary higher chance.
Am I ...
Not sure.  But, it is no doubt that MS has a 3.7% (Biology) to 34% (M2) higher in "% of 4+" in elective subjective.  However, the percentages are misleading.  If the number of SMS students taking the same subjects were 3.7% to 34% more than that in MS, then number of students having "number of 4+" in SMS might be higher in the same subject.

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發表於 17-8-7 09:45 |顯示全部帖子
elbar 發表於 17-8-7 09:35
始終此校在2010年9月才升格英中,上年和今年才開始有升格後DSE生,尚算可以
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同意,我亦都十分肯定老師同學生既努力!

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發表於 17-8-7 14:47 |顯示全部帖子
bobbob 發表於 17-8-7 12:31
民生收生質素低過聖馬可真係未必,響東區唔少家長buy民生多過聖馬可,尤其係幾年前負面新聞多,好多band 1 ...
你又講得啱,民生收生質素未必低過聖馬可。聖馬可受小學影響咗,民生受九龍民生影響,東區唔少家長真係buy民生多過聖馬可,尤其係啲外區搬來既。前幾年,我都同唔少朋友分析過呢個問題,其中一個新移民爸爸同我傾開,先知道佢以為港島民生就係成績好好嗰間民生。

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發表於 17-8-8 09:37 |顯示全部帖子
hkpapa852 發表於 17-8-7 17:47
if we have the info about 5+ of both schools, we can rank the schools in better way
Yes, without the 5+ data, it is difficult to compare.
In this situation, I believe the most workable way to compare them would be to take the actual 4+ and 2+ numbers, plug them into Hong Kong Average Curve, and project their 5, 5* and 5**.
It is not the best way, but is the best way under the current circumstances.

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發表於 17-8-8 09:44 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 17-8-7 15:07
回覆 王家爸爸 的帖子

How about other electives ?
For the electives, I would assume that SMS and MS students take 2.8 and 2.2 electives respectively. Then use statistical method to best guess the real performance of each subjects in each school.  Again, it is not perfect, but it is the best approach to compare apples to apples.

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發表於 17-8-8 09:46 |顯示全部帖子
whywhywhywhy 發表於 17-8-7 20:37
聖馬可,民生都係好學校,作為家長,我除左睇dse成績,都會睇啱唔啱小朋友,民生講座講明以考大學為目的, ...
如果你去參觀兩間學校,比較佢哋學生既作品(尤其係寫作),就知道距離有幾遠。

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發表於 17-8-8 11:28 |顯示全部帖子
ANChan59 發表於 17-8-8 10:02
2.8 vs 2.2 只代表學生應考科目的平均值,多跟好是兩回事!如果選修科數目較多,按常理是入大學比率較高, ...
因為兩間學校公佈既資料唔夠,所以只能估。因為只能估,所以我無將分析效果講出來,以免唔導咗人哋。
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