求美國升學意見

simonlawht2

wkymama 發表於 15-10-31 09:00
阿仔想考完DSE, 去美國讀兩年CC, 再入美國大學，是否都難入到好大學
東洛杉基社區學院好不好？



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請看以下資料再作決定:
1.  各族裔比率以拉丁裔最高, 佔63.1%, 亞太裔比率大概是14%左右, 學校仍致力於幫學生英文科和數學科補底, 達標率仍有待改善.

http://scorecard.cccco.edu/reports/OneYear/748_OneYear.pdf

2.  根據NBC News 報導, 在2011 至2012學年度有大概24000拉丁裔學生入學, 在那一年只有1000拉丁裔學生畢業, 在六年內拿到副學士學生比率仍然很低.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/latino-college-completion-rates-low-despite-enrollment-n80326

3.  我個人不太喜歡那一區, 環境惡劣且複雜, 光是幫派已經有三十幾類:

http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/lacounty/eastla#sthash.ftUVev17.dpbs

4.  亞太裔學生比較喜歡到Pasadena City College, 學校網頁:

http://www.pasadena.edu/

學校比較大, 環境也不錯, 不過我到那裡參觀時候聽到非常多學生講廣東話, 學校距離又近唐人街如 Valley Boulevard, 附近San Gabriel 和 Alhambra 區都是中國人住, 有些店舖特別是茶餐廳和卡拉OK店開到很晚, 在那裡想找一個外族人練習英文都很難,  如果想學好英文最好找一些比較少中國學生的學校.

simonlawht2

wkymama 發表於 15-11-1 17:43
謝謝你Simonlawht2,資料非常重要，真係想一想，以為學校推介有信心d
請問你有沒有CC學院推介



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只限加州嗎?   是否有親人在美國?  如沒有, 請看看以下全美國附有宿舍的社區學院資料:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_community_colleges_in_the_United_States_with_campus_housing

我不想左右妳替兒子選校的決定, 妳有心儀的院校想幫兒子報名的可告訴我, 我可以提供該院校更詳細資料給妳.

想參觀每一間學校的環境可以到以下網頁:

http://www.campustours.com/

simonlawht2

jh1228 發表於 15-11-10 16:55
simonlawht2,

如果你/妳要問指定郵區編號 (Zip Code), 我估計你/妳可能是:

1.  有親戚朋友在這地方居住,或

2.  你/妳可能是美國居民/公民, 或一家將會移民美國?  如答案是2者請告知, 因為學費, 申請程序, 等都跟外國學生有很大差異.

我先假設你/妳兒子是香港居民到美國留學的外國學生,由於你/妳給我的資料不多, 所以我可以給你/妳三個選擇:

1.  假設你兒子是一名資優生,在校內成績優秀, 而預期未來DSE成績標炳, 我建議你/妳兒子不要考慮投考CA 95129附近的Community College, 建議投考Deep Springs College, 網址:

http://www.deepsprings.edu/

這是一所男校,每年大概有200-250學生申請, 但每年只收大概15人, 全校學生學費、宿費、膳食都全免(包括外國學生), 學校位於加州一小鎮, 鄰近內華達州, 學校附近很荒無, 所以可以很專心讀書, 唯一條件要幫學校每星期做20小時工作, 不少學生拿到副學士以後都能進長春藤名校(Ivy League Universities), 或加州大學等名校,參考:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Springs_College

2.  假設你/妳兒子成績中等, 建議選De Anza College, 原因這一間學校畢業的跟其他加州社區學院比較多人考進加州大學,(加州最好的Community College 應是位於洛杉磯的Santa Monica College), 參考:

http://universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/california-community-college-enrollments-uc

2014年有715人成功考入加大, 其中有125個考上UC Berkeley, 有164個考上UCLA, 有56個考上UC Irvine, 按一按De Anza College 統計捧便可以看到.

如果你/妳中文程度比英文強的請找Joseph Ng申請入學, 他是處理國際學生入學事宜,也許他說中文, 這樣可以省下在香港找Agent費用:

https://www.deanza.edu/international/contacts.html

至於學費加雜費請自己計算一下,假如國際學生一學期修12學分, 每一學分是$152美元, 另外國際學生必須購買健康保險,每學期待$484美元. (假設一年三學期, 暑假也修學分, 一年學費加雜費便可以知道要付多少),參考:

http://www.deanza.edu/registration/cashier/feeworksheet.html

雖然能入讀UC 學生比例較多, 但是全校有23,000人, 建議不要工作, 認真讀書考上加大才是上策,否則只能進California State University 或是San José State University

3.  假設你/妳兒子成績是中下游, 建議選屋企附近West Valley College, 在2014年這一間學校畢業的跟其他加州社區學院比較只有127考進加州大學, 其中有19個考上UC Berkeley, 有11個考上UCLA, 有8個考上UC Irvine, 按一按West Valley College 統計捧便可以看到.

http://universityofcalifornia.edu/infocenter/california-community-college-enrollments-uc

你/妳兒子很大機會在畢業後考上California State University 其中一間分校,最近CA 95129 是San José State University:

http://www.sjsu.edu/

不過有沒有妳兒子心儀科系必須要參考加州州立大學系統網頁

http://www.calstate.edu/

如果不想將來浪費學分、金錢和時間,入讀West Valley College時請修讀California State University 認可的學分,以Theatre Arts 為例, 修讀以下科目California State University必定會認可:

http://westvalley.edu/services/academic-success/transfercenter/files/ADT_Guidelines_2013/theatre_arts_adt_2013.pdf

所以當兒子入讀任合CC,記得問Academic Advisor 取有關大學科系的Transfer Guide.

至於學費是$205美元1個學分:

http://westvalley.edu/admissions/fee-schedule.html

請找Wanda Wong申請入學,他是處理國際學生入學事宜,也許她說中文, 這樣可以省下在香港找Agent費用:

http://westvalley.edu/faculty/wong_w.html

報名程序,參考:

http://westvalley.edu/documents/services//international/2008-06_International_Student_Website_Chinese(simpl).pdf

simonlawht2

回覆 jh1228 的帖子

忘了告訴你/妳, 演藝排名可參考以下網頁:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/best-film-schools-2015-top-828483/item/ithaca-college-top-25-film-823664

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/25-best-drama-schools-2014-706880

simonlawht2

jh1228 發表於 15-11-14 10:40
Hi simonlawht2,

感謝你這麼詳盡的資料, 你的估計非常準確 :-

在加州, 比較好的社區大學都有不少亞太裔, 以三藩市、灣區及San José 為例, De Anza College 有43.9%:

http://scorecard.cccco.edu/reports/OneYear/421_OneYear.pdf

Foothill College有27.3%:

http://scorecard.cccco.edu/reports/OneYear/422_OneYear.pdf

City College of San Francisco有35.4%:

http://scorecard.cccco.edu/reports/OneYear/361_OneYear.pdf

所以選學校有以下因素要考慮, 請自行決定要否送兒子出國:

1)  亞裔同學(如來自中國或香港) 太多, 他會否只跟這類學生交往而沒有跟美國學生太多溝通?  如果他自己本身英文流利可能沒有太大影響, 如果英文不好但只跟中國及香港同學交往, 當然講英語及體會不同文化機會自然減少.

2)   至於這幾間學生個人素質及修養我沒有研究, 無論甚麼種族都有良莠不齊, 在美國也有不少香港優秀的留學生, 你兒子在大專院校的際遇沒有人估到, 你/妳只能做的是提醒他一個人在外地要對自己行為負責.

3)   跟親朋好友會否因生活習慣不同導致磨擦?  萬一你/妳兒子有這問題你/妳有財政預算讓他搬出來嗎?  (我假設你/妳的預算有限)

4)  如他英文程度太差, 學校要求學生讀ESL (英語為第二語言), 這樣的話有可能超過兩年才能畢業, 另外, 會否因為這樣超出妳/你的預算?  

5)  至於會否銜接本港大學, 如你/妳決定兒子到美國讀書前, 請到本地心儀大學入學組問一下, 會否接納美國某社區大學transfer讀大三?  最低入學GPA要求多少?  要否看DSE/TOEFL等成績?  我沒有相關的經驗, 請自行問清楚.

simonlawht2

FortuneR 發表於 15-11-16 17:15
Simon 你好。小兒今年F4，有意明年讀完F4去美國留學，今日見了ACademic advisor , 她建議如下：

明年暑假 ...

請問你講的學校是在甚麼地方?
Washington D.C. 在以下地方:

http://worldhindunews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/washington-dc-map.gif

Washington State 在以下地方:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/07/Map_of_USA_WA.svg/2000px-Map_of_USA_WA.svg.png

是那一間Community College?   不過我可以好肯定告訴你:  我絕對不會送小朋友讀這類課程.

simonlawht2

FortuneR 發表於 15-11-16 18:00
Thank you Simon. Yes, I also have reservation on such program. How about this :

-Send my boy to the ...

Would you feel differently if he only studies in a private high school for two years?   I think that he will need a very long time to deal with transitioning to new environments in different schools as well as the culture and language difference in the United States.  He also needs to maintain a good GPA in high school to get into a good university in the future.

I would appreciate if you tell me more details about your son.  For example, what grade is he currently studying right now in Hong Kong?   What high school do you want him to get into?  What state he will go to, and what community college or university do you want him to go to?   Maybe I can give you more advice and information.

simonlawht2

mmju 發表於 15-11-18 11:21
Simon,

For an average Form 3 student in Hong Kong with green card, which route of study is better i ...

The student might have the following benefits if s/he finishes his or her high school in Washington state:

1.  Improved English language skills before s/he enters community college.

2.  A chance of having an in-state tuition fee when s/he goes to community college.

3.  Ability to apply for scholarship or fellowship.   Most scholarship committees accept only students who have finished their high school in the United States.  

I would suggest for him or her to study at the following high schools.   The first one is the best, and the second one is the second, and so on:

1.  International School in Bellevue School District   (Very competitive)

https://www.bsd405.org/international/

School Profile:

https://www.bsd405.org/international/about/

http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19970610&slug=2543803

2.  Bellevue High School

https://www.bsd405.org/bhs/

https://www.bsd405.org/bhs/counseling/advanced-placement/

3.  Newport High School

https://www.bsd405.org/nhs/

4.  Interlake High School

https://www.bsd405.org/interlake/

https://www.bsd405.org/interlake/about/ib/

Community colleges in Washington state maintain open door admission policy to the public, which means community colleges accept students who enroll without asking for evidence of previous education.  Therefore, they do not require your son or daughter to have an AP score as long as s/he finishes his or her high school program. Please read the following website for further information.

http://sbctc.edu/general/policymanual/_a-policymanual_3.20.aspx