美國的小學教育

Vernique2005

"捧著這本孩子們寫成的「書」，我內心充滿了感動！"

非常同意﹗記得在小時候做了一份寫遺書的功課﹐老師要我們想想有什麼我們是要交底的﹐什麼是沒辦法留下的﹐我自己寫完了好感動啊﹗(雖然媽媽說大吉利市﹗哈哈哈﹗當然啦﹐呢種甘好玩的功課是在外國才有的﹐中國人最怕呢家野﹗)

雖然那是我只是十多歲﹐但那份功課令我第一次感受人生的無奈﹐對將來的期望﹐又看見的很多東西都不是必然的﹐真的很感動。。。

從無到有﹐ 從一無所知到慢慢了解﹐將人家的知識變成自己的再加以運用﹐就是我們在學習上的到最大的喜悅了﹗

Vernique2005

睡覺 寫道:
        嘩，個題目真係好正好正呀﹗我最鍾意咁GE題目。唔駛左忌又忌...百無禁忌。....哈哈﹗好好好﹗

睇完你咁講，我可以放心等阿仔識作文時，俾LI個題目佢作，老公鬧我都係咁話。好好玩﹗....   

哈哈哈﹗其實呢個題目都令我想了不少東西﹐第一次令我想到遺產的問題﹐我記得我是決定把錢全留給環保機構﹐完全沒分給我將來的子女﹗又令我想起﹐我自己的人生其實真的沒什麼大貢獻﹐ 還要多多努力~﹗

Vernique2005

Msma 寫道:
個人意見 !

小學 -> 港式傳統
初中-> 英式
大學 -> 英/美式
研究 -> 美式

Agree! 如果有機會這樣走完全世界去讀書的話﹐其實都不錯﹗起碼四圍都有朋友啊﹗我見過最吃香的例子﹐是外國人見到你當你是ABC自己人﹐而中國人又當你是自己人﹐那你讀完書去邊度做野都沒人歧視你了﹗

Vernique2005

Dear youma:

From my knowledge and information from friends, the highschool math standard in Canada is certainly not that high.  Many highschool students from HK manage to get into top U easily because they defeat many Canadian students in math/science.

However, this situation begins to change once you enter university, especially in the math oriented programs.  I had friends from the Combined Honour Program at UBC (computer science and pure math).  They said that even though you still see many Chinese in the class, the best students are from the super genius schools in Russia and Germany.  The same situation holds true in the PhD computer science program at the U of T.  These students come to math class without taking notes at all.  They manage to "THINK" and "UNDERSTAND" the math as the professor gives his/her lecture........

They also said that the biggest difference between the education in HK and those in Eastern Europe is that the best schools in Europe would give students just one question to think for a whole week, while the best schools in HK may give students 50 questions to practice every day.  As a result, students from HK do calculation very quickly, yet they may find it difficult to write proofs and theorems on their own. (Of course, it's often the reverse for the foreigners... hahah!)

I guess there are advantages and disadvantages to both programs.  It's a matter of preferences and educational beliefs.  Of course, being raised in Canada myself, I'd say that I HATE KUMON!!!! (well...many people in HK may go against me, I think.. hehe!)

Vernique2005

Dear lochan:

Just as a joke, have you ever faced the situation that I mention below?

Whenever my friend does his math HW, he'd say, "Oh.. come on! I'm supposed to be a smart guy... I should  know how to solve it!"

.........after two hours, my friend says the same thing..........at the end, the problem remains unsolved....

When he goes to school and gets the answer key, he'd go, "Ahhhhhhhhh! Stupid me!!! This is sooooo easy.  Why didn't I think of that?  I should have KNOWN it...AHHHHHHHHHH~!"  

To some people, that's the sole beauty of math; to many others (count me as well, please), this is totally nightmare!  

Vernique2005

youma 寫道:

1. The genius students in HK are not well trained up with special care - what a pity!
YES!! I THINK THIS IS CERTAINLY AN ACT OF INEQUALITY HERE.  EVEN GIFTED CHILDREN DESERVE TO HAVE SPECIAL ED!

2. The top students in HK usually do not choose pure math for undergrad because it is not a money earning discipline.
YES YES! THAT'S WHY MY FRIEND WENT TO COMPUTER SCIENCE EVEN WHEN HE LIKED MATH MORE.


3. Do you think the top students in HK usually do not go to Canada? (sorry to those Canadian graduates, despite UBC, Victoria are such excellent schools)
HAHAH! THAT'S A TRICKY QUESTION.  I GUESS THE MAIN REASON IS THAT IN CANADIAN UNIVERSITY, YOU ONLY GET THE BEST TREATMENT WHEN YOU ARE IN THE HONOUR PROGRAM.  ON THE OTHER HAND, IN THE BEST UNIVERSITIES IN THE US, YOU CAN ASSUME THAT IT'S GREAT OVERALL.  

HOWEVER, ONE NOTION THAT YOU MAY WANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT MANY GREAT ASSOCIATIONS/COMPANIES IN US, INCLUDING NASA, GOOGLE/MICROSOFT AND OTHER LAW FIRMS, ARE FLOODED WITH CANADIANS.....MANY GREAT PROFS IN THE US ARE ALSO FROM CANADA (BECAUSE WE'RE JUST NOT RICH ENOUGH TO HIRE THEM....SIGH...)

5. In my opinion and observation, the best students in the world come from Singapore - Singaporean Chinese exactly.

HM.. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH TO COMMENT ON THIS.  PERHAPS IT DEPENDS ON THE AREA OF STUDIES.  I MET SOME OF THEM AT HKU.  THEY'RE VERY DILIGENT AND POLITE, YET I FOUND THEM TOO SERIOUS SOMETIMES (AGAIN, THIS MIGHT JUST BE MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE).  I KNOW THAT MANY SINGAPOREAN CHINESE ARE GREAT MEDICAL DOCTORS, YET THAT'S ALL I KNOW....

Vernique2005

去翻教數學的問題﹐我基本上是同意LOCHAN 的說法的﹐Judy
說的數學學科測試﹐我也聽過﹐頭五名﹐吾記得真正排名﹐是﹕
Singapore/Japan/Korea/Taiwan/HK

接著便是我的家鄉溫哥華了﹗(哈哈﹗這是理所當然的﹐因為我們有了以上五個地方的移民﹗哈哈哈﹗)

但請記住﹐這是中小學的排名﹐現在LOCHAN 想說的是到底這個這麼高的排名到大學後會發生什麼事。

最後是﹐讀數學﹐讀電腦﹐讀工程的﹐最好的都是在美國﹐那個本來排名勁低的地方。 為什麼呢﹖這真是一個好問題﹐到底是美國(或北美)在小時候的教育差﹐還真的是香港人太浪漫所以放棄數學﹖

我所知的是﹐當香港的小朋友在做題目的時候﹐北美的孩子年年去科學館﹐當香港的小朋友去做題目的時候﹐北美的孩子可能是再想到底有什麼方法用刀切麵包﹐切最少的次數﹐但分得最多份﹐但香港的小朋友還是在做題目的時候﹐北美的孩子可以已經在出題目﹐一人出一題來考考對面班的同學(這個好玩的﹐你真的難想象孩子可以為了令人家覺得自己的題目好難而想去千奇百怪的題目﹐哈哈﹗

到考試時﹐TOO BAD﹗ 美國的孩子可能連做都沒心機做﹔老師﹐ 點解我地今天不能出外面打籃球啊﹖這份PAPER 為什麼要這麼長﹖ 可以不做嗎﹖(我不是說這是好的態度﹐但班小朋友真的會這樣問你。。。。。。)

然後呢﹖香港的小朋友﹐厲害的會說﹕又是大顯身手的時候了﹐不厲害的會說﹐死期又到了。。。

到最後﹐既然是那邊那些從小玩到大的會有興趣去研究數學﹐我說的不是中學﹐而是上研究院﹐甚至變成教授﹐ 但香港的人呢﹐不是很厲害嗎﹖為什麼不去研究數學﹖難道數學在中學後就叫學完嗎﹖ 那些讀數學的是浪漫主義﹖那不如跟我一起讀英國文學啦﹗

這不是浪漫不浪漫的問題﹐是可悲不可悲的問題。。。。
當很多人說﹐讀數沒前途﹐讀數沒出色﹐在身邊的孩子會感受不到嗎﹖ 但如果你的才能真的是在數學呢﹖我就親眼看見很多例子﹐有家歸不得。。。。你在香港出身﹐想當數學教授﹐移民啦﹗ 你有興趣R&D﹐ 在香港找不到工﹐去美國殖谷啦﹗

讀數的真的很窮嗎﹖這也是我聽過很好笑的笑話。。。。
找找看﹐現在超大型的公司﹐有那一間沒請數學家﹐Wall Street 的大財團﹐London 的保險公司﹐ 殖谷的IT 公司﹐ 連我們常見的Coca-Cola, MacDonald's 在行政上都請不少。。。

翻查一下﹐你會發現數學家好多時是好專業的﹐但當你問他﹐喂﹗你做什麼時﹐他會說﹕高度機密﹗ 哈哈﹗

Vernique2005

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千尋 寫道:

小農社會式的民族情緒和故步自封的思維真令人搖頭歎息，是中國教育改革的叛腳石。     

吾好看少這種民族情緒﹐可以是好可怕的。。。。。
教書時最怕看到的學生﹐就是那些說﹕因為我是中國人﹐所以要學好。。。。
中文﹖中樂﹖中史﹖中國的飲食文化﹖哈哈哈﹗
表面上可以說成是愛國﹐但實際上只是盲目而簡單的思想﹐跟被洗了腦沒分別。。。。

太極端的時候﹐就會出現了﹐你不支持改革﹐你不支持革命﹐就不是我國的人﹐就是叛國﹗這不是中外歷史都常有的事嗎﹖

哈哈﹗連我自己都聽過﹐你連自己的文學都不懂﹐學什麼人去學外國文學。。。

這個更好笑﹐為什麼一讀外國文學的人就會不懂中國文學﹖需要這麼極端嗎﹖事實上﹐我這個番書妹﹐讀過孟子﹐讀過古詩﹐背過離騷。。。。仲要係大學的外國教授教我的﹐然後又有人話﹐真的可悲﹐要個外國人教你中文﹐你令我們沒面子了﹗

如果我話﹐我也可以教外國人英國文學呢﹖甘又點計好呢﹖
哈哈哈﹗