看完德望中學年報, 你會選讀德望, 還是九龍塘宣小?

twinsstar1

yes ...quite a no. of them go to overseas uni too. And also many go to overseas after F.1-5

And afterall, as discussed in another thread, you can't just look at data of one single year.

原帖由 DaddyX 於 11-2-24 14:17 發表
Other 可以係Overseas

會唔會D人有$左?

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-2-24 15:41 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

As i know, there were A LOT of good students went to study F.6 in other schools (free of charge) /  international schools or overseas secondary schools after F5. Plus a lot of them leaving in F.1-4 (to other top schools and overseas). That;s why those leaving behind might not be the brightest ones. And some bright ones went to overseas to study uni too.

One of the reasons might be the school fee difference 0f  studying in International schools / overseas & ghs F67 isnt that big. ANd the parents of that year probably didn't expect to pay any school fees when they were admitted to p1 in Ghs.

ANyway... just the university entry data of a single year can't tell the overall performance of the school. If you try to go through the reports of those elite schools, you would probably find that there are ups and downs in different years of university entry data and public exam results.


係呀！德望小學既學生大部份可以上番佢哋既中學本來係小學既優勢嚟，如果升大學既情況係咁，真係令人擔心喎！比咁貴既學費都無保證。似乎宣小有好多好既comment，K3校網又靚，又可以考直資，選擇較多，但要承受升中呈分既壓力，但我 ... [/quote]

twinsstar1

yes .. the good ones might choose to go to DGS, St Paul Coed / MCS ...

原帖由 easybring 於 11-3-1 11:34 發表
我聽高小家長講, 佢地都想直升中學部, 只有"學費"問題才會轉其他中學or有幾個去dgs.

早幾年的小學家長expect升津貼ghs, 而家轉左直資, 學費又唔平, 成績好既學生有好中學收, 都會轉走.  呢幾年家長心態都唔同, 成績 ...

twinsstar1

Guess if they chose to study in ghs primary, most have planned (or satisified) to stay in its secondary ... so pretty normal to have 90% staying in the end?! I can't see the negative implication here....

honestly, if your kids are bright, they'll be able to get into DGS, SPCC, MCS in the end, no matter which one you choose for primary school.
If you're not confident that your kids would be that bright, I think it is more "safe" to choose schools with secondary school back up, though it might not be the very top ones like DGS...




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原帖由 TelleTelleMom 於 11-3-1 22:58 發表
那要看對學校的睇法是正面還是負面了

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-1 23:23 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

"自己小朋友資質一般ok或不錯"... then they have to think if their kids have the ability to find a school better than GHS lor, if they are confident in it, you might find ghs not attractive.

However, not all staying in ghs are being "forced" to stay or because they have "no choice" outside. I know some kids who rank 1-10 places in ghs primary section still choose to stay in ghs secondary just because they like the school.  

Again, don't just look at the university admission rate of one particular year and neglect the strengths of other areas.

原帖由 jollyma 於 11-3-1 23:40 發表
真係講中晒,問題唔係佢收幾多%,係收你你都要諗下值唔值得讀,中學學費(尤其高中)拍得住人地超級名校喎,如果入本地u率高,都話值呀!唔通真係俾學費你投資咩
如果係叻嗰班就冇問題,去邊都得,家長最concern係自己小朋友資 ...

twinsstar1

原來HY中6學生全部是HY中5升上去的。E個再要加D分 ... ghs also. I guess most EMI school would be the same for this area.

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-2 17:52 發表
HY 及 GH的透明度其實都很高。在他們的網頁上，我們大致能找到要看的東西。反而MCS就有D難! HY和GH都是好學校。品德教育及辦學宗旨十分相近。


過去三年, HY的公開試成績是十分穩定。但中學部明年轉直資。


如果兩間 ...

twinsstar1

i.e. the old system -- schools using "english as a medium of instruction" ....

If you go over the past data abt the available F.6 seats after the 1st round of admitting F.5 students. Most seats of the EMI school are filled up by their own students in the 1st round of admission  

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-3 09:32 發表
原來係咁！What is EMI?

twinsstar1

Factors of repeat? hahah ...how to calculate exit rate ga?

but as far as  I know .. really a lot of them will go overseas. I don;t know if it is the case in other Band 1 schools also.

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 10:44 發表
有D古怪! 下面是從 GH 2009-2010 report 拿出來的人數. 理論上今年的S1會是明年的S2, 如此類推. 從以下資料, 好像每升一級都有十多個人不見了! 但在同一report, exit rate 只有~ 1%!?

LevelS1S2S3S4S5(2007-2008)27 ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-4 11:43 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

Thanks for your clarification

of course I know you're not critising ghs la ... I don't mean that you're critising actually :) Sorry if my words have made you feel bad ...

But can't it be repeating? so the students are still there but the no. of the students in that form drop. ... ? But you're right ... even after counting the factor of "repeat" .. the % seems quite high too.... hahah really don;t know the reasons ....

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 13:46 發表
In general, early exit rate is the % of pupils leaving the school earlier than graduation. GH listed ~1%.

The figure shows that an average of ~6% of pupils exit in each year in each level. It is not  ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-4 14:32 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

then really don;t know ...

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 14:34 發表
No, it cannot be due to repeating. The figure in the table shows the total # of pupils in each class in each year. If one pupil has repeated, the coming class will have one more pupil quitted in order ...

twinsstar1

then why can't it be overseas studies / going to other schools? and repeat too?

i think these 2 are the chief factors ... just that I don't understand why it is 1%. That's why i ask how the exist rate is calculated

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 15:44 發表
如果把網上能得到的資料全取下來，情況更古怪。GH所收的學生, 自 F.1 讀到 F.5, 從平均260人跌到平均200人。有60人不知去向！

（2003-2004）年的就更奇怪！他們中一有260人。到中二還是260人。中三是232人，中4是195人，到中五只 ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-4 16:16 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

hey hey .. what about each form they got people repeating, plus people going overseas ... then there won't be one person more in the coming form even there's one person repeating in a year.

Moreover, the F.1 intake of each year is different too .. so it's a bit difficult to estimate how many that each form has originally.

seems a bit complicated ar ..

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 14:34 發表
No, it cannot be due to repeating. The figure in the table shows the total # of pupils in each class in each year. If one pupil has repeated, the coming class will have one more pupil quitted in order ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-4 16:14 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

I know ... I actually never feel that you have bias towards GHS ar ... I'm also just talking about the data, not really commenting on the schools as well. If for any lines that I have made you feel bad, I;ve to appologize.

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 16:37 發表
再說一遍，我對Good Hope 無偏見！我瞭解每年都有可能有人去外國，但6%真的太大。我自己沒有遇過，所以我才查Heep Yunn 和 St. Mary。她們的數字告訴我6% 是不正常的。如果那6%是發生在中五畢業生升上中六, 我會認同。

至於 ...

twinsstar1

If that is the 1st year of turning to DSS, then it might be one of the reasons explaining the high exsit rate.

1. Parents are more well-off, then can afford sending their children to overseas.

2. Some of the parents are forced to pay school fee in sec. (As when they first admitted to ghs primary, they did not prepare to pay in secondary) so they might choose to change to other band 1 schools (equally good or even better schools) where they did not have to pay school fee.

well.... a wild guess. I don;t mean to offend anybody here

Talking about "repeat", I mean there are F.5 students repeating to F.4 and at the same time, there are also F.4 students repeating to F.3 and so on and then at the same time, we never know the exact amount of F.1 intake each year. That's why it's abit difficult to find out the exact no. of students leaving from the table.

Again .... a wild guess, my maths isnt good anyways.

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-4 16:37 發表
再說一遍，我對Good Hope 無偏見！我瞭解每年都有可能有人去外國，但6%真的太大。我自己沒有遇過，所以我才查Heep Yunn 和 St. Mary。她們的數字告訴我6% 是不正常的。如果那6%是發生在中五畢業生升上中六, 我會認同。

至於 ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-4 20:35 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

you mean public exam results of that year?

In 2002-2003, only F.1 students need to pay school fee, so it wouldn't affect the F.2-7 students

I mean if 2009-2010 was the 1st batch of DSS students taking AL exam..... sorry for the confusion made

btw, if the HKCEE results of this batch of students were not that bad (I haven't checked it), the poor uni entrance result of that year might be due to the fact that many good students left after F.5....

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-5 16:38 發表
The first year is 2002-2003. The result of this year's candidate was fine.

http://www.ghs.edu.hk/GHS/DSS/DSS_info1.htm

The school fee set at that time was:-
School Fee :
F.1 - F.3 : $35,000 per an ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-7 23:01 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

I guess I understand what you mean now


btw .... yes.. may be we better focus more on primary school disucssion rather than secondary school discussion... sorry for that!

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-7 09:27 發表
AL result of the year 2009-2010 was comparatively bad. You guess it might be due to the fact that 2003-2004 was the first year of DSS. Then I checked and found that the first year of DSS was 2002-2003 ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-7 11:46 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

deleted.......

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-7 23:12 編輯 ]

twinsstar1

You're really very resourceful! I can see that you've spent a lot of time and effort in analysing the data and share it in BK without bias. Your effort is much appreciated!

Hope to see your analysis about other schools in other threads too

原帖由 DGJS 於 11-3-7 12:23 發表
The reason why we have been emphasizing on the secondary because of this thread.

It is true that this section is for P.1 selection. Let's move on in another thread.

樓主的標題是從中學年報開始探討,  ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar1 於 11-3-7 23:21 編輯 ]