那間 直資 / 私立 是真正活動教學？

MARSTEN

同埋唔好令小朋友抗拒學習,咁就影響一生架啦~

原帖由 G-Ma 於 09-9-11 22:02 發表
同意, 只係小學je, 我會從小朋友角度考慮, 主要係佢地可以enjoy school life, 喜愛學習, 享受過程, 已經足夠.

至於將來334又好, ib又好, 始終會係大圍事, 宜家都預計唔到, 只可以到時都係既來之則安之. ...

G-Ma

同意, 只係小學je, 我會從小朋友角度考慮, 主要係佢地可以enjoy school life, 喜愛學習, 享受過程, 已經足夠.

至於將來334又好, ib又好, 始終會係大圍事, 宜家都預計唔到, 只可以到時都係既來之則安之.

MARSTEN

政府d野,今日334,聽日424,而家選小一,唔好攪到好似投資咁啦,重講到越黎越遠,小學都未入重講大學

而我個人認為,一定要為小朋友著想,搵近屋企既,適合小朋友身心發展既(活動定傳統),校風好既,資源充足(例如以普教中)都唔係班班有啦~,小朋友讀得開心係好緊要,唔係你地去讀,真係唔好要個小朋友辛苦咁多年啦~ 重有排捱架陰功....

flostangraphy

i'm impressed!!!
thanks very much father ho!!!

原帖由 father_ho 於 11/9/2009 20:44 發表
It is not IB more difficult, the fact is kids can not concentrate on some narrow subjects area thus seems to get overall grade point lower in comparing to GCE.
Curriculum of IB is from IBO, you can se ...

囝囝爸

什麼教學學制, 方式都講條件.  不同條件生出不同效應.  

我對334冇信心, 有改變還好, 但也並不擔心.  高中只是人生學習一小段, 難與易或者效果如何也不重要.  同一樣學校, 一樣老師, 一樣學生, 一樣家長.  他們影響比課程改變還大.  逆境困難有成也可鍛鍊意志, 有失必有得.

father_ho

It is not IB more difficult, the fact is kids can not concentrate on some narrow subjects area thus seems to get overall grade point lower in comparing to GCE.
Curriculum of IB is from IBO, you can search from the official web of it.

father_ho

Although we all hope our kid(s) can enter University (no matter Local or Oversea), taking IB or not should not  focus on it. This sytem actually screen out those machines and ask you to learn, digest and present the material as if is their own work. So they will not allow you just focus on a few subject content (may be that's the reason some school don't like it).
I personally strongly support the education reform in Hong Kong now, I just don't trust their implementation in the coming tens of year. That's the reason why our official's kids are studying in IS not because of English (always say domestic helper can also speak English), is the system IS has!

father_ho

To the point and thus lots of parent who are in the educational field are go for the IB system. You can observe the overall structure of HK new system is similar in nature to IB but will you believe just a few days of training for the school teachers can transform their mindset to the new delivery, assessment etc. One supplement is DSS still bind mainly to go for the HK system and it will impose great pressure to the kids in upper forms in order they can compete with those machines (although is 334 now and in future, since all those teachers are the same, you will expect a lots of complaint will come from students regarding the continuous assessment marks in school).

flostangraphy

thanks a lot....
however, i don't really understand...
what is the exact different between international baccalaureate and hkcee?
which countries or which universities recongize IB make that is more interesting to have it?
is it the IB is more difficult? but how come it's not the same level. what's curriculum for IB?

原帖由 ziyi 於 11/9/2009 18:23 發表
我想不論是否CEE或334是否換湯不換藥
或新高中不及IB
對我們家長的影響是:
如果打算仔女升大學會到外國,那選擇辦IB的
否則最後是本地大學,那還是334新高中的
最少,除非本地大學夠薑不要政府的funding(除了珠海),否則 ...

ziyi

我想不論是否CEE或334是否換湯不換藥
或新高中不及IB
對我們家長的影響是:
如果打算仔女升大學會到外國,那選擇辦IB的
否則最後是本地大學,那還是334新高中的
最少,除非本地大學夠薑不要政府的funding(除了珠海),否則政府那班高官怎樣玩,大學都要跟,像以前中大最初也是4年制
但最後怎樣,大家見
其實我想其他人想說的是傳統名校如果由於家長壓力去辦IB,將由於資源問題,很難

原帖由 flostangraphy 於 09-9-11 17:07 發表
wahoo, thanks a lot... i really don't know that much about IB and 334....
by the way, how do these 2 system affect the choice of primary school?!?!
should we consider these elements as well?
ummmm, ...

Charlotte_mom

正如之前有人講過, 用開廣東話教中文既學校, 想"因應潮流"轉pth教, 你估話想就轉咩, 唔通一下子炒晒d中文老師? 無可能, 於是"教改"下場就係換湯不換藥(尢其傳統名校, 有"成就"呢樣包袱, 更加唔敢亂黎)
而家由cee轉334, 咪又係一樣........d老師教左咁多年, 咁易話變就變咩, 教育局玩到咁大, 你叫d老師全部丟飯碗?

原帖由 fongyuen 於 09-9-11 04:51 PM 發表
我教傳統中學多年，今年開始教新高中，老實講，如果硬要將新高中同IB比較，只會笑大人個口。以下係我對334 vs IB嘅一啲諗法：

第一，教新高中班老師咪都係教開會考同AL嘅老師，你話教法可以點變？

第二，新高中表面睇嚟好似仿效IB，但 ...

flostangraphy

wahoo, thanks a lot... i really don't know that much about IB and 334....
by the way, how do these 2 system affect the choice of primary school?!?!
should we consider these elements as well?
ummmm, in fact... what's good with IB?
(i'm beginner in this domain... )

原帖由 fongyuen 於 11/9/2009 16:51 發表
我教傳統中學多年，今年開始教新高中，老實講，如果硬要將新高中同IB比較，只會笑大人個口。以下係我對334 vs IB嘅一啲諗法：

第一，教新高中班老師咪都係教開會考同AL嘅老師，你話教法可以點變？

第二，新高中表面睇嚟好似仿效IB，但 ...

fongyuen

我教傳統中學多年，今年開始教新高中，老實講，如果硬要將新高中同IB比較，只會笑大人個口。以下係我對334 vs IB嘅一啲諗法：

第一，教新高中班老師咪都係教開會考同AL嘅老師，你話教法可以點變？

第二，新高中表面睇嚟好似仿效IB，但實情只不過係將會考同AS炒埋一碟，根本只係換湯不換藥，點可以同課程、學制、approach完全唔同嘅IB相提並論？

第三，老實講，就連我哋啲中學老師都對334冇信心，你甚至可以發現唔少老牌名校如DBS、培正等都蠢蠢欲動，想諗方法開IB，所以，將來334會唔會好似以前TOC、母語教學咁玩幾年草草了事，冇人可以拍心口保證(EDB官員除外)。

第四，要搞IB，就要連硬件 - 老師都要換掉，因為教IB係另一種教法。之前有網友post過一啲英國名校，學生一向考IGCSE都好成績，其中考Straight-A嘅學生走去讀IB，點知都衰哂，原因顯然易見：老師操開IGCSE，突然要操學生考IB，根本未夠班。可見開IB唔係想就可以開。呢樣嘢亦都解釋咗點解連SPCC校長簡介會講有關IB都唔敢落咁大嘅commitment。

[ 本帖最後由 fongyuen 於 09-9-11 16:54 編輯 ]

G-Ma

我有聽舊同學講佢地當年係香港上PROBABILITY係有用"色仔"同"六合彩", 不過佢地係坐定定係到聽, 老師係黑板寫例子出來, 大家看圖學習.

只係想帶出教學用唔同既方法的確會有唔同效果.

原帖由 nicolemummy 於 09-9-11 00:33 發表
我不評論活動不活動教學.

不過, 看見外國用CASINO去學PROBABILITY的這個例子. 其實, 在香港中學年代, 學PROBABILITY都是用"色仔", 也用六合彩. 這並沒有不同.

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[ 本帖最後由 G-Ma 於 09-9-11 15:56 編輯 ]

ziyi

第一個 是助語,沒有特別意思, sorry for misleading
第2個就真的是"錢"

原帖由 Reximom 於 09-9-11 15:11 發表


為入大學鋪路等於 , 有D莫名其妙喎?

cherubic

"我個point係d新派學校學生考本地個334新會考, 同傳統學校學生比較會係點結果!"

At this stage, no one can tell you the answer.  However, given that 334 is quite similar to IB which stresses on breadth of knowlege, those come from activity approach school may have an advantage.

"至於話請人, 都話香港人好醒目, 亦好實際"

For employing a staff, every boss has his/ her agenda.  However, in general, those candidates with good presentation skill and outgoing character will have an advantage.  Kids are better trained for this skill in activity approach school.

mattsmum

if i need to employ a new graduate, I would consider the SLP.

nowadays looking at the A for chinese in someone's cert does not guarantee anything. you have to speak to him to test his mandarin and english.

univeristy may have other consideration too. i heard that one faculty take in 10% non0-jupas last year but 50% this year becuase they want to have a try.