Wah Yan VS St.Paul

HKBEE

How to choice?

LS+MCS

原帖由 HKBEE 於 08-11-25 13:27 發表
Thank you so much for your comments!
By someone news at baby kingdom,
the student of Wah Yan secondary school is
not so good Now, no only HKCEE result, Is it true?

for future, Will Wah Yan secondary  ...

Both Wah Yan and St Paul are very good schools and entering either one is more than fortunate. I think it's too early to worry about the connection to secondary schools. Things might change after six years !

wlmom

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[ 本帖最後由 wlmom 於 08-12-12 10:46 編輯 ]

coco10

wah yan HK is better than wah yan kln... but the eng stardard is not very high

hogwarts

Hi Chunchunmommy,

No, not at all.

chunchunmommy

Hogwarts,
Hope you don't mind I help you to explain what you have written!
Hehe...

原帖由 hogwarts 於 08-12-11 18:50 發表
親愛的各位 BK 朋友，

謝謝大家多样化的意見，我们的社会就是可以包容不同意見，才日漸进步嘛！

文字寫了出來，作者就一定不会再有百分百的解釋权，"我唔應該只沉醉於昔日的光輝.而要努力向前!" 的確此较是我想表達的意思。  ...

HoHoMom

ooooooh, going back to "got 10As students = highest academic level "AGAIN.......
Just hope you can see what a moot point it is.

原帖由 wlmom 於 08-12-11 16:01 發表
HoHoMum,

with you saying that just "a few" 10As from wah yan, it also seems quite unfair to those students and the school.  Do you think it's so easy to get 10As??  It's very different studying 10 subjects vs. 8.  I tried it before.  I studied 10 and then dropped one out.  it's a lot easier.  i can imagine if i only have 8 subjects.

the fact is st paul boys has none 9 or 10As students in history.  

besides, one could get 8As doesn't also mean one could also get 10As.

hogwarts

親愛的各位 BK 朋友，

謝謝大家多样化的意見，我们的社会就是可以包容不同意見，才日漸进步嘛！

文字寫了出來，作者就一定不会再有百分百的解釋权，"我唔應該只沉醉於昔日的光輝.而要努力向前!" 的確此较是我想表達的意思。 但文字功力不足，錯的在我。

自己住在湾仔，也有好友是"华仁仔"，也曾在做义务工作時，和华小兩度接觸，印象其佳。

為孩子報考 SPCPS，根本是无心插柳，Ms Chan 花了兩分鈡就 in 完，唸的也不过是街坊幼兒園，原本就沒有寄望，能被錄取，一路走來，漸漸覺得兩间学校真的各有長处、不相上下。但到现在還特別感激 interview 時既不用串英文字，也沒有要講普通話。所以每次一有机会，都會要求 Ms Chan 保留此優良传统。

慢慢，漸更多見 SPC & SPCPS 的優点，骨子裏，我可能比更多 old boys 更以 SPC 为榮。我常跟孩子講，什么公民教育，都不及仔细看看 SPC 師長和学長的人生道路；如 Wong Shiu Pun、如程翔、。同样一番說話，也可以用諸于华仁，大家可以找練乙錚(信報主筆、前政府中央政策组顧問)的升学故事看看，故事的另一主角是大家熟悉的李柱銘，感人至深。

其实 AA vs YY 的题目实在不單沒问题，既可使众 BK 友多瞭解学校情況，其中包涵家長 、old boys & girls 水平，有時更是金融海嘯下的上佳生活調剂。

寫得太長了，先謝謝大家耐心看完。

最後"東大特訓班"主要是日本人對教育的一次反思(不过作者三田纪房，也曾話此書的成功也真是无心插柳，也沒有什么偉大顾景)。当假期娛乐，绝无损失。

[ 本帖最後由 hogwarts 於 08-12-11 19:03 編輯 ]

wlmom

andrewpapa,

i also apologize if i had offenced you or your mother school with my comments.  not being a parent of either of these schools, i just voiced out my thoughts straightly.  of course st paul boys is not a bad school la.  i admit that its standards are improving over the years.

well, everybody has their preferences and even someone in BK could give up la salle for ying wah.  it's not bad in debating.  at least it helps me to understand now that the st paul old boys are so faithful to their mother school. : )

HuiTung

原帖由 麟媽媽 於 08-12-11 15:49 發表
HuiTung，你好嗎？  
唉…有親「華仁 vs 任何學校」我都少參與的，
你知啦，呢d topic 好鬼惹火，
大家點對點理性討論最好喇，
但有時唔係架嘛…我好怕既。
其實Paul’s Boys 係咪活動教學架？
如果係，華仁同Paul’s Boys 都 ...

Lun ma,


都係傳統架! 上年有位朋友又係抽倒WY到同考倒SPCPS, 家住渣X山, 對佢, 兩校之分別只有半日同全日之分別 …..


我係BK咁耐, 關於學校的討論一路都係咁低調, 今年唔知點解咁惹火, 真係唔知好定壞?
不過好慶幸學校有很多sensible的家長.

andrewpapa

Sorry wlmom

don't make me wrong, I am not trying to convince you.  I am saying that Paul boys is not a school with your comment "...no pressure and happy school and no 10As...."

your statement is not friendly at all. If you don't know much about Paul boys, please take away this comment.  if you were a parent of paul boys, then sorry for my impolite.

原帖由 wlmom 於 08-12-11 11:52 發表
btw, i couldn't find any good reasons to support st paul boys is a better school, other than no pressure la, study happily la, no 10As la,... ok, then with these qualities, st paul boys could be a good school as parents would not have much pressure and can live happily ever after.
...

wlmom

Andrewpapa,

Don't take me wrong.  I am not a fan of Wah Yan.  I even think that the impression of its students to me are more "book worm" type and not active enough.  I just prefer wah yan over st paul boys based on my interpretation of their performance academically.  that's it.  i just wish you could provide me with some factual reasonings to convince me that st paul boys is better, not just some subjective comments made on your mother school.

HoHoMum,

with you saying that just "a few" 10As from wah yan, it also seems quite unfair to those students and the school.  Do you think it's so easy to get 10As??  It's very different studying 10 subjects vs. 8.  I tried it before.  I studied 10 and then dropped one out.  it's a lot easier.  i can imagine if i only have 8 subjects.

the fact is st paul boys has none 9 or 10As students in history.  

besides, one could get 8As doesn't also mean one could also get 10As.

my point is comparing academic results.  not being a better person, happy or not happy etc.  you may debate on these points but academic results are facts.

what took me to this thread was that i just don't understand why people nowadays are comparing these two schools, or like ying wah vs. dbs etc.    Maybe my thoughts are just too traditional and are only addicted to the old traditional famous schools.

thanks all for reading my comments.  ha ha

原帖由 andrewpapa 於 08-12-11 12:48 發表
Dear wlmom

thanks for your comment.

Wah Yan is the best.  thank you.

But I don't think St Paul's Boy is nothing more than a happy school. If you or your family ever have a chance to study in this s ...

[ 本帖最後由 wlmom 於 08-12-11 16:34 編輯 ]

麟媽媽

HuiTung，你好嗎？  
唉…有親「華仁 vs 任何學校」我都少參與的，
你知啦，呢d topic 好鬼惹火，
大家點對點理性討論最好喇，
但有時唔係架嘛…我好怕既。
其實Paul’s Boys 係咪活動教學架？
如果係，華仁同Paul’s Boys 都難作比較啦！
華仁傳統教學，大家方針都唔同啦，
有人受傳統，有人唔受得，
亞A 既靈藥，可能係亞B 既毒藥。

原帖由 HuiTung 於 08-12-11 15:06 發表
Lun ma,

萬料不到會係呢d topic 同你chat.  我很同意你的說話; 對我, 也可以用在Paul Boy上, 只是有些人說的話實在太偏埋一面, 還扭曲別人的話, 好好笑.

bobbbby

明白到自己母校受到批評會感覺難受，但係名校聲譽係建基於學校本身／學生成績（學術同非學術）／畢業生成就，並唔係踩低其他名校去抬高自己~~~

原帖由 andrewpapa 於 08-12-11 14:54 發表
to bobbbby

agree you point. and yours view is the same as mine if you read all my other posts.

I am just using an extreme example only.  Sorry to offence.  But i have to clarify that my relative is ...

HuiTung

Lun ma,

萬料不到會係呢d topic 同你chat.  我很同意你的說話; 對我, 也可以用在Paul Boy上, 只是有些人說的話實在太偏埋一面, 還扭曲別人的話, 好好笑.

andrewpapa

to bobbbby

agree you point. and yours view is the same as mine if you read all my other posts.

I am just using an extreme example only.  Sorry to offence.  But i have to clarify that my relative is a good man at all.

chunchunmommy

I think hogwarts wants to say that "我唔應該只沉醉於昔日的光輝.而要努力向前!"
Also, what s/he mentioned was "In many ppl eyes, the history is a "past", should not be proud of." which I think it's quite true that most ppl would argue in this way. 請不要扭曲別人的話!
I'm so glad to see that there is a group of SPCPS parents/ SPC old boys who strive their best to help building up the reputation of the school.
Hooray!
A good school can't stand on her own but needs good parents to support.

原帖由 wlmom 於 08-12-11 10:24 發表
no wonder so many supporters for st paul boys la.  old boys...

it's also the first time i heard that the history of a school should not be proud of.  nothing to say la...

麟媽媽

其實有咩好爭辯？
你問我，華仁一班40人，
有d 細路仔六年都好開心既，
有d 細路係唔覺得太開心既，
相信咁既情況係Paul's Boys 一樣有，
至緊要睇間學校適唔適合你個仔囉！
講有幾多個10As8As都無意思既，
係唔係自己個仔入左就會10As 先？
各位家長要知既係學校既教學模式，
校風、程度、升中情況之類咁吖嘛。
我個人好鐘意華仁既校風，
學生之間很友愛，但d 仔有時都頑皮架！
小學階段我覺得學術唔係全部，
我更看重品德操行，呢樣華小比到我囉。

HKBEE

Please foucs student performance, teacher quality and school ethos!
Don't just compare 10A or 9A of HKCEE?

bobbbby

用咁o既例子去比較兩間學校，非常之唔公平，任何一間學校都有成績叻學生同成績差學生，我同一屆畢業o既同學，都有差天共地o既際遇~~~

原帖由 andrewpapa 於 08-12-11 12:48 發表
Agree that Paul boy has bad branches, but so do many schools, even Wah Yan.  I have a relative same age as mine from Wah Yan.  He is only posted as a clerical post till now.