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發表於 12-2-21 19:19 |只看該作者
大學收生,一向分Jupas and non-jupas,non-jupas不是新事物。2012是雙軌制,有3年制和4年制大學,non-jupas 可二擇其一。

想指出一點,2012年,JUPAS收窄了收生比例至80%。不知道,是不是多了本地生轉考IB, IGCSE的後果!?

換句話說,Non-Jupas系統可提供另外的20%的學位給本地生(如考IB, IGCSE...)、國際生,內地生。可想而知,non-jupas競爭十分激烈。

記得HKU MBBS Admission Talk, 就有不少UK High School家長問,憑GCE A level 全A的成績又有Oxford Medicine Offer,點解都入唔到HKU? 教授話考得MBBS,全是精英,面試對答好重要,不要死讀書的學生。

另外,教授提醒DSE考生,得不到校長推薦到大學面試,不要慌張,只要最終得到理想DSE成績,就有機會入MBBS。到尾,最重要都是公開試的成績。

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發表於 12-2-21 23:15 |只看該作者
據我所知,是大學收取非本地生的上限是20%,即非本地生再好,也只可收至20%大學學額。這兩年的非本地生只佔十幾%,未用盡20%的上限,即表示非本地生報考並不踴躍,或是成績不算很好。
非本地生與本地生是一種分類方式,DSE, IB, AL又是另一種分類方法,不要混淆,本地生可以考DSE, 也可以考IB或AL,考IB或AL的本地生也算在80+%之內,並非與非地生爭取那20%學額。
本地生考DSE, IB, AL或其他國成的會考,都是排同一隊,所以大學有權收15000個IB生(如果有這麼多的話),也可以收15000個DSE生。
聽聞有本地生因同時持有外國護照,又是考AL,所以以非本地生報考,結果收了,但照理應不會有好處,因為如果非本地生已收足20%,而他排第21%,便不獲取錄,反而同樣成績即使在本地生中排第81%,也有機會被取錄,除非有關方面對非本地生有篇好,這就難以估計了!
還大一點,非本地生要交兩倍以上的學費!

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發表於 12-2-22 00:42 |只看該作者
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Penguin_chick
Your comment on

"非本地生與本地生是一種分類方式,DSE, IB, AL又是另一種分類方法,不要混淆,本地生可以考DSE, 也可以考IB或AL,考IB或AL的本地生也算在80+%之內,並非與非地生爭取那20%學額。"


Do you know where I can find the source of your info? It's a good news for my son, if it's valid.


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發表於 12-2-22 13:46 |只看該作者
According to my understanding, 分類方式是"非本地生與本地生" and "JUPAS and non-JUPAS".  The split of 80:20 between 本地生 and 非本地生 is not rigid.  Nevertheless, there is a rigid quota for subsidised places which should all be allocated to 本地生.  The statistics that I have come across show that non-JUPAS admission rarely reached 20% before even for the most "international" U in Hong Kong while all 非本地生 belong to this category (plus other 本地生 not following the JUPAS path).
ANChan59 發表於 12-2-22 00:42
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Penguin_chick
Your comment on

"非本地生與本地生是一種分類方式,DSE, IB, AL又是另一種分類方法,不要混淆,本地生可以考DSE, 也可以考IB或AL,考IB或AL的本地生也算在80+%之內,並非與非地生爭取那20%學額。"


Do you know where I can find the source of your info? It's a good news for my son, if it's valid.


ANChan59

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發表於 12-2-22 16:24 |只看該作者
My daughter got a condition offer from HKUST(non-jupas). It is her 2nd choice.
Do anyone knows when will the HKU send out the offer?

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發表於 12-2-22 17:31 |只看該作者
amy888 發表於 12-2-22 16:24
My daughter got a condition offer from HKUST(non-jupas). It is her 2nd choice.
Do anyone knows when ...
Early January onward, according to my friends info (HKU).
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發表於 12-2-22 17:39 |只看該作者
Is that means no news is bad news.........

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發表於 12-2-22 18:07 |只看該作者
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Did she attend an interview in HKU? She may go to the main round instead of Fast Track only, be positive.
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發表於 12-2-22 18:32 |只看該作者
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slamai
Cut it short.

My son study IBDP in HK, he applies local universities through non-JUPAS, he falls in which quota. Local 80%, non-JUPAS 20%.......... so still 20% quota.

You also mentioned the subsidized places, I guess the 14500 places are UGC funded except the international students.

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發表於 12-2-22 21:50 |只看該作者
ANCHAN,
你的兒子應屬LOCAL(除非他有外國護照而又選擇以非本地生報考),但不限於80%,只要本地生爭氣,是可以全取the 14500(appr)  UGC funded places.
根據下文︰2010年的本地非聯招(non-jupas)佔10.3%+7.1%=17.4%,與JUPAS加起來有97.4% (以核准收生人數 14580人為100%計),而與非本地學生(非聯招)合計有17.4%+12.8%=30.2%,遠高於規定的20%。因此本地NON-JUPAS生不用害怕被非本地生爭學位。事實上不少人士害怕NON-JUPAS生會搶去JUPAS生的學額,更有立法會議員在立會中提出這種憂慮,但孫公重申︰教資會資助院校並沒有就經聯招及非聯招途徑入讀的學生訂定比例!
你鼓勵兒子選擇IB,是名智之舉,也促使你鑽研NSS與IB等制度,使網友都獲益良多!

高校非本地生學額增倍2007

本港高等院校的非本地生限額,所佔總學額比率將由原來的10%增加至20%,預算最快可於08/09學年正式實施……
但供本地生的大學學額並不會因此減少。
http://paper.wenweipo.com [2007-10-30]

201112立法會七題  非聯招收生
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……總括來說,教資會資助院校並沒有就經聯招及非聯招途徑入讀的學生訂定比例。
             2005/06     2010/11
核准收生人數       14 500      14 580
實際總收生人數      15 041     16 054
(包括超額收生)    (103.7%)   (110.1%)
本地學生         14 012     14 195
            (96.6%)    (97.4%)
 聯招          11 458     11 660
            (79.0%)    (80.0%)
 非聯招         1 517      1 502
 (副學位或同等學歷) (10.5%)    (10.3%)
 (註2)
 非聯招(其他學歷)   1 037      1 033
 (註2, 3)       (7.2%)    (7.1%)
非本地學生(非聯招)   1 029      1 859
            (7.1%)     (12.8%)
http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201112/07/P201112070227.htm


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發表於 12-2-22 23:29 |只看該作者
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Thanks so much for your detail reply. You info reflected ~30% non-JUPAS quota matched with what I heard from some professors.
My son study Pre-IB and IB for sometime, I further confirmed that IB is more suitable to his learning style instead of non-JUPAS. He plans to study in HK years ago, IB is his safety net for overseas university and or some top notch university.

Research on NSS and IB just 自求多福 and may help some parents who face the same struggle.

Thanks again.
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發表於 12-2-22 23:36 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 12-2-22 23:38 編輯

the following are my understanding:

A) part:本地學生        14 012     14 195
            (96.6%)    (97.4%)
consisting of:
 1)聯招          11 458     11 660
            (79.0%)    (80.0%)

 2)非聯招         1 517      1 502
 (副學位或同等學歷) (10.5%)    (10.3%)
 (註2)

 3)非聯招(其他學歷)   1 037      1 033
 (註2, 3)           (7.2%)    (7.1%)
-----this should be IB/a level etc.
------2011 there were about 1300 IB candidates in HK.



B) part:
the following are from oversea or china:
非本地學生(非聯招)   1 029      1 859
            (7.1%)     (12.8%)

from UGC website:
按出生地區劃分的教資會資助課程的非本地學生人數,載於http://www.ugc.edu.hk/eng/doc/ug ... nualRpt_2009-10.pdf。八所院校在全球各地招生,但現時大部分學生來自內地。在所有非本地學生中,內地學生佔超過90%,這可能是由於內地與香港聯繫密切,而且內地學生對優質的高等教育需求日增。

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發表於 12-2-23 00:04 |只看該作者
I always have an impression that the quota for mainland students is 5% for undergraduate programs. Am I correct?
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發表於 12-2-25 02:11 |只看該作者
收生比例
根據︰
http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/201112/07/P201112070227.htm
教資會資助院校並沒有就經聯招及非聯招途徑入讀的學生訂定比例。
http://www.ugc.edu.hk/eng/doc/ug ... nualRpt_2009-10.pdf。
第78頁
09-10年度非本地生有5191人,其中內地生有4562人,佔88%。
這四千多人是包括大一至大三的,平均每級有約千五人,相對每年約萬五大一學額,內地生約佔10%。

到目前為止,我手頭上的資料,有白紙黑字寫明的QUOTA只有一個,就是非本地生人數上限為20%。

非本地生中,內地生與其他如歐美生人數比例沒有規定。

本地生中,聯招(NSS)與非聯招(AL, IB, SAT ..etc)的比例也無規定。這點很易理解,大學收生都是擇優而錄,為甚麼要設限來自縛手腳呢?如果某年首萬五個JUPAS生都有3344的成績,而IB最好的只是24分,那為甚麼要捨3344而取24分;又假如某年只有五千個JUPAS生的成績在2233或以上,而有一萬個IB 40分考生(太跨張了,只是假設),大學又怎會拾40分而取2233呢?

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發表於 12-2-25 11:52 |只看該作者
本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 12-2-25 12:03 編輯

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penguine_chick

Thanks for your info. After reading the ending of the reply

透過非聯招入讀的總學生人數增加,主要是因為院校增加取錄非本地學生。近年新增的非本地生是透過在核准學額以外超收錄取,與本地學生並不構成直接競爭,因此院校實際錄取的學生人數亦相應增加至2010/11學年的約16 100人。非本地生須繳交較高的學費。




Does it mean the figure you quoted for mainland students more than 5%, due to some spaces are

核准學額以外超收錄取 and then > 5%.




Just for curiosity.




ANChan59


http://cdcf.ugc.edu.hk/cdcf/searchStatisticReport.do;jsessionid=BC95564AF2AECD051A5B62E13B98A0AB


This link shows the breakdown of student origins, other than local by institution and level of study - 09-10 and 10-11.



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發表於 12-2-25 12:16 |只看該作者
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Yes, correct. He will take local, non-JUPAS route.
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發表於 12-2-25 23:00 |只看該作者
根據有關報告,外地生的上限是UGC核准學額的20%,但沒有限制當中的內地生佔多少,即可以佔全數的20%。我則希望內地生與其他外地生都有,內地生通常都很勤力,可作本地生的榜樣,其他外地生則可擴闊本地生的國際視野。

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ANChan59  That's true. My son can compete with mainlander.  發表於 12-2-26 00:14

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發表於 12-2-28 14:43 |只看該作者
As others have already explained in details above, there is no split in quota to distinguish between local JUPAS and local non-JUPAS candidates for the subsidised places.
ANChan59 發表於 12-2-22 18:32
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發表於 12-2-28 15:10 |只看該作者
slamai 發表於 12-2-28 14:43
As others have already explained in details above, there is no split in quota to distinguish between ...
Salami
It's a good news for local non-JUPAS students.

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