Which Int. School is better?

Darth

10 間學校, 有咁多間話 "NOT FAMILIAR", 都夠膽死學人比 RANKING. LPC 係明明好多外籍學生... ISLAND S 竟然係 ESF 排第 5... ICS 4 項有 3 項 NOT FAMILIAR, 咁又憑乜比排名, 重要排到咁後. STUDENT QUALITY? 我仔讀 ESF SC, 都唔敢亂講其他 ESF D 學生 D MANNER 係點. 呢個 POST都係就當係笑話睇好喇.

YauMum

Well, ICS has recently posted to parents that AP is the choice of the school up to this moment.

Nevertheless, I have no objection to it.  If all IS turn to IB which means no choice to the students/parents.

Also, don't have a misunderstanding that IB is easy to get good marks or get to well known U.

原帖由 cecichow 於 10-5-19 15:40 發表
ICS is not adopting IB curriculum?????

YauMum

Very fair comment.

And I am sorry to you as I accidentally pressed the adjacent button.

原帖由 lottieclee 於 10-5-19 22:26 發表


I agree that throwing out a list of schools is not the best way to do it.  Each parent have their own preference.  I know parents who absolutely love JIS and AIS, yet those won't be my choice of sch ...

glorian

I have already said that I am NOT really familiar with IS in Kowloon. Out of the 10 schools she provided, only the ones in Kowloon got a few 'NOT FAMILIAR' The ranking is based on the overall impression. That's why I further explained my PERSONAL ranking in 4 areas. If you don't agree with it, you can simply say you have other preference or agree with the other parents that schools should not be ranked. But I just wanna emphasize again:

The above rankings are my PERSONAL rankings for those schools.
*If you don't understand the word 'personal', you can go check it up in any English dictionary.*

I actually wouldn't even regard LPC as an international school as most students there enrol to the school not because of their parents' emigration. LPC is more like a school that receives international students who wish to study in Hong Kong. And the local students that go there are mostly originally from local schools. They don't even speak good English(as in their accent, not their grammar) LPC is an exceptional case amongst the international schools circle in Hong Kong.

I don't see HOW Island School can rank higher than that amongst ESF secondary schools. Are you implying that Island School is better than SIS, WIS, KGV or where your son goes -- SC? I don't want to judge KGV and SC as again, I said I'm not familiar with IS in Kowloon. Yet based on my experience with international schools, Island School really isn't that good in terms of 'student quality'. It means nothing that your son goes to SC, one of the ESF schools. Your family probably lives in Kowloon, hence has no say in international schools on Hong Kong side. How could your son possibly know the student quality of Island School? That's just not anything in his social circle. I'm sure that he can give comments on KGV and his own school, SC, but definitely not ESF schools on Hong Kong island, let alone other international schools on Hong Kong island.

If your OWN social circle covers anywhere on Hong Kong side, go ask any students living on HK island who go to any international schools in this area. They generally have a pretty bad impression on students from Island School. Students from SIS, WIS, or even IS probably have a better impression on Island School, but perhaps you would be surprised about what students from other international schools (e.g. CDNIS, HKIS, CIS, FIS, GSIS, etc) say about Island School.

原帖由 Darth 於 10-5-20 15:56 發表
10 間學校, 有咁多間話 "NOT FAMILIAR", 都夠膽死學人比 RANKING. LPC 係明明好多外籍學生... ISLAND S 竟然係 ESF 排第 5... ICS 4 項有 3 項 NOT FAMILIAR, 咁又憑乜比排名, 重要排到咁後. STUDENT QUALITY? 我仔 ...

Darth

你仔女讀邊間 ?
定係你只係一個補習老師 ?  接觸過一 D 國際學校學生, 就當知好多野 ?

除左我仔學校, 其他學校好多情形我都知, 起碼肯定比你知得多, 不過我知的依然唔全面, 我唔會好似你咁亂比 "分" 人地學校

做人有 D 責任心好 D , 唔係話一句 "PERSONAL OPINION" 可以亂 UP 當秘笈

不過我都唔同你玩喇, 唔上你當
呢邊比 D 根本對國際學校唔熟的人騎劫晒

glorian

My children go to an independent international school with european country background on Hong Kong island. I ain't no private tutor but I used to study at international schools in Hong Kong back when I was a student.

I highly doubt that you know the circumstances at other international schools as you are just one of the parents who send your kid to one of the ESF schools. Based on your habit of replying in Chinese, my assumption is that you were a student at local schools. I am sure that my personal experience studying at international schools in Hong Kong for over 10 years and putting my children in international school help me draw more objective and just conclusions of my personal impression on some international schools that are familiar to me than you do.  

I don't get why you said that you definitely know better than I do, perhaps that is out of narcissism or egotism. Yet I believe no one can compare their own knowledge on some specific areas without even knowing how much the other knows. Hence, what you claimed just made a complete fool of yourself, no matter how objective you tried so hard to sound.

And the reason why I used the word 'personal' is not because I want to run away from responsibility. It is a REMINDER for parents who are reading this thread that the above comments I made are based on my observation and knowledge on international schools, which might be affected by my personal experience on my road of exploring international schools in HK. Hence reminding parents that they should only take it as REFERENCE, not ORDERS or anything else that limit their liberty of choosing a right international school for their children.

I also got one reminder for you:
Mind Your Attitude.

原帖由 Darth 於 10-5-21 00:16 發表
你仔女讀邊間 ?
定係你只係一個補習老師 ?  接觸過一 D 國際學校學生, 就當知好多野 ?

除左我仔學校, 其他學校好多情形我都知, 起碼肯定比你知得多, 不過我知的依然唔全面, 我唔會好似你咁亂比 "分" 人地學校

做人 ...

zhangbaba

I have one more suggestion on the list, FIS (French International School), which is the first IB DP school in HK since 1988. FIS maybe a little low profile comparing to other schools, but the academic results are on par with top school like GSIS/CIS.

Darth

原帖由 glorian 於 10-5-21 01:14 發表
My children go to an independent international school with european country background on Hong Kong island. I ain't no private tutor but I used to study at international schools in Hong Kong back when ...

So my typing in Chinese bothered you? I did not know that this forum ONLY accepts typing in English. I am so sorry, but I am glad you have good Chinese language skills to actually understand what I typed.

It is also funny how local people see people using Chinese. I have learnt a lesson. From now on, I will never speak or type in Chinese here. I will also pretend that I do not know Chinese.

It is so funny how the background of yourself comes into the picture here. But since you seem to believe one's background matters, I do not mind telling you mine. While you were probably studying in those many international schools (wow... "schools" in plural...  did you mean ALL international schools on the island?  that is something...),  I was in fact living in the US and Canada. (No. We seldom went to China Town.)

You are the winner. Since you have studied in SO MANY international schools when you were a student, I am sure you must know so much about things back then.

Ok. You know SO MUCH. Ok. Ok. Ok. (arms in air) I give up. Like most other BK international schools parents, I have no more interest in this topic. You are officially the king/queen of international schools.

I am quitting BK totally and will be starting a fan club page of you. Will let you have the link later. "King/Queen of International Schools" who "knows more than anyone in Hong Kong about international schools". Ok. Be patient. The link will follow soon. But in the meantime, please continue to provide your advices here. I see that you already have a few fans.

[ 本帖最後由 Darth 於 10-5-21 13:59 編輯 ]

glorian

I never said or implied that you typing in Chinese bothers me. If it bothers me, I wouldn't even put effort in reading it. I just meant that if you were from a local school, you most likely hadn't much knowledge on international schools in Hong Kong and could not make a fair judgement as you had never experienced studying in one of these IS in Hong Kong as a student. Hence your so-called 'knowledge' would only be based on a parent's perspective, unlike mine, which is from both student's and parent's persepctive.

I am Chinese in ethnic doesn't mean that I am a 'local'. I wasn't born in HK/China, nor have I lived in HK/China for more than 10 years. When my parents emigrated to Hong Kong, I attended two international schoolS at different time. (plural form is used when describing two or more in quantity) Does that answer your question?

No one has ever said one's background matters, nor has anyone said writing in English equals pretending to be a Chinese illiterate. As long as we are still communicating, we both know you and I know English AND Chinese. And as I said, stating my assumption of your education background is just for the use of supporting my point: one cannot say s/he knows much more better than the other if s/he has not even experienced the issue being discussed. Let me say it again: My assumption based on your Chinese writing is just for the use of supporting my statement, not dissing anyone's background or saying English is prior to Chinese or anything. If you want to think in this way, it is your call. Yet it also proves everyone that you have always had this idea in mind, or you wouldn't even bring it up, as I have never thought that you could interpret it like this.

Thank you for telling me your background, though it doesn't help at all. Oh..and answering question in your imagination? I surely know your family seldom WENT to China Town. You guys were BASED in China Town, or where did you get your Chinese fluency? I have never seen anyone living outside of Chinese Town overseas has such Chinese fluency and can write in such local Cantonese way. It would be really great if you could share your experience with parents who are living overseas or planning to send their children overseas on how you maintained your Chinese fluency or how your parents taught you Chinese in a complete foreign enviornment.

I actually find this interesting. I treat it as a debate, a post which every parent can get something from our threads. This ain't a competition. There is no winner? I am sure that you have seen debate competitions back when you were a student. Debate isn't a competition. Points from both side can easily be defeated by how one perceives things. Debate is more like an activity that allows people to think in a new way and find special points about things as you see things from another way. I enjoy debating with you very much as not only me, you and other BK parents can learn things through our debate. What is so bad about it?

Thank you for your thought but I have no interest in being "King/Queen of international schools" which you just made official. I seem not to be the one who claims that s/he "knows more than anyone in Hong Kong about international schools"?You gotta scroll up...

I don't see any so-called 'fans' here and I don't wish to have 'fans'. This place is just for parents to express ideas and share experience. It's more like an idea exchange than idolism. Everyone is welcomed to share thoughts here, not only you and me.

btw, the word 'advice' is an uncountable noun. Just so you know...

原帖由 Darth 於 10-5-21 13:35 發表


So my typing in Chinese bothered you? I did not know that this forum ONLY accepts typing in English. I am so sorry, but I am glad you have good Chinese language skills to actually understand what I  ...

[ 本帖最後由 glorian 於 10-5-21 22:15 編輯 ]

tamm

原帖由 jediknight 於 10-5-26 15:02 發表
After reading all the posts, it is quite obvious that your knowledge and understanding on HK's IS is much, much better than all the others who have posted in this thread before.

There is no need to a ...

Glad to see this kind of sharing on this forum!

lulusing

原帖由 jediknight 於 10-5-26 15:02 發表
After reading all the posts, it is quite obvious that your knowledge and understanding on HK's IS is much, much better than all the others who have posted in this thread before.

There is no need to a ...

My personal order of preference of ESF schools in the HK side is: IS, SIS, WIS; while in the Kowloon side is SC, KGV.

My overall preference is
- IS
- SIS or SC (depending on the location of living)
- WIS or KGV (depending on the location of living)

Don't ask me why I have such preference. It is my personal feeling or impression.

What is the feeling or impression, and what are the sources of the feeling or impression?
Common knowledge? General opinion from friends and relatives? News from mess media or other sources? I understand that feeling is feeling, while impression is impression, and we do not need to have any hard (quantitative) data/evidence to support. Just want to know what feeling or impression is and the sources for the fomration of the feeling or impression. Thanks.

seec

glorian and all,

Suppose the kid want to study medicine in HK,which one would be the better choice??

According to academic level,how's the ranking of GSIS,HKIS and CIS?
Thanks!

原帖由 glorian 於 10-5-19 18:30 發表
If you would like to rank the above schools, I would say:

1. German Swiss International School
2. Hong Kong International School
3. Chinese International School
4. Li Po Chun United World College
5.  ...

[ 本帖最後由 seec 於 10-6-3 15:03 編輯 ]

glorian

原帖由 seec 於 10-6-3 15:01 發表
glorian and all,

Suppose the kid want to study medicine in HK,which one would be the better choice??

According to academic level,how's the ranking of GSIS,HKIS and CIS?
Thanks!

I am glad to see there is finally some rational discussionon BK :)

To be able to get into medical majors in university, I suppose the student must have very strong academic result. I guess the school isn't a big deal because a smart kid can always excel in his/her school no matter what school s/he is from. And personally I don't know which IS is particularly good at Biology(or subject that's related to medicine). I know that history in CIS is pretty strong as they got some really good teachers and history curriculum. It is hardly to find students who don't like History in CIS. But honestly, I really have no clue about science subjects in any IS.

So I guess it is better to think in the 'curriculum' way. I personally think british curriculum may give advantage to students who wish to study Medicine as you can choose the focus of your A level studies. The other curriculums(e.g. IB and american) get students prepared as an all-rounder, rather than a specialist. But of course, IB students perform better in THINKING, as well as academics, as it is the most prestigious curriculum internationally anyways.

I would say it is quite hard to rank the academic level ofGSIS, HKIS and CIS as they follow different curriculums.Students from GSIS usually go to universities in UK, HKIS students usually go to US universities while students from CIS go to universities worldwide(US, UK, Canada, HK) I think GSIS and CIS stand out more than HKIS in academic means.

GSIS students get top-notched results in open exams like IGCSEs/A levels. I have heard of quite a number of stories about top-notched students in GSIS. Of course there must be some students who can't quite catch up with the syllabus or something but I don't quite know this kinda insiders' stories. But I gotta mention: GSIS students are exceptionally nice and well-mannered. Students there are like the nicest persons I know from international schools.

CIS got some really talented students. They don't only study, they also participate in lots of ECAs without interfering their own studies. CIS students have quite a large difference in terms of academic abilities. Some students get full mark in IB, some only get 28-32 marks in IB. So I would say it really depends on the student himself, whether s/he is motivated or not. And one thing I noticed from CIS class of 2010's graduation, CIS teachers aren't quite nice.

HKIS' curriculum should be the easiest out of the 3. The curriculum there challenges students intellectually more then academically. There are lots of interesting courses for selection. So I guess HKIS is more suitable for students who have great curiosity, who wants to explore different areas and challenge themselves with some 'unknown' new things.

All three schools send students to top universities around the world, but sometimes it isn't solely about the student's ability, but parents' background and financial situation. It is reality anyways.

glorian

Excuse me for my mistake. The first IB examination of GSIS will be held in 2015. GSIS students are still taking A levels examinations at the moment. I am not sure about universities in Hong Kong, but UK universities definitely accept IB scores. Perhaps IB students who wish to apply for medicine can apply through non-jupas?

原帖由 jediknight 於 10-6-3 18:08 發表
Firstly, I would like to clarify that in order to study medicine in HK, one must study "Chemistry" but not "Biology". Please note that there are quite a number of medical students who haven't taken Bi ...

tamm

原帖由 jediknight 於 10-6-4 15:49 發表
I know GSIS will have the first IB exam in 2015. However, the kids of most of the parents in this forum are either in Kinder, primary or at most junior secondary and therefore whether GSIS is still ta ...

Hi - are you the student or the parent?  You mean your kid is determined to go to medical school at the early stage?