If studying in IS, really not necessary to take extra English lessons of outside

samsam123321

我小朋友話，點努力都唔夠d 鬼仔鬼妹勁。

samsam123321

但is 都有分講英文的is ,同講國語的is.

nintendo

oooray 發表於 14-11-18 13:25
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唔排除個別人仕頂著"IS家長"呢衣新衣；覺得子女 can speak in English, think in English, dream in English已經好滿足；自我感覺良好；時運高；睇佢唔到/唔想睇到現實殘酷一面。

自我感覺良好的，少有是高中學生家長。我見得多英文差的國際學校學生（包括鬼妹），本著好心提醒低班家長多留意，唔好咁快鬆毛鬆翼。有D家長，小朋友只係讀緊 year one ，都講到將來英文一定好好，我真係覺得太吹噓了。再講，多閲讀係好，但唔代表D乜。

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Jane1983

讀書既嘢，都係各自修行。如果間學校平均成績幾好、年年consistently出到狀元、精英，但有部份小朋友讀到甩甩漏漏，咁責任不一定在學校。

一分耕耘一分收穫，都好合理。

shadeslayer

samsam123321 發表於 14-11-22 15:41
前排先同個讀一間在旺角的名校家長傾計，佢話間學校老師教得唔係想像得好，有d 學生成績都好差，好成績果d  ...

講返正題，就算好多is 學生係寫方面唔係太勁，係香港都好難找到夠高水準的本地英文老師教佢地。識一位英文科主任，ielts 都唔係滿分，唔好話speaking. 滿分，連writing 都唔滿，點敢比佢教。

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問題係為乜要搵本地英文老師教lS生？

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Artie

samsam123321 發表於 14-11-23 20:59
純粹個人經驗，唔知點解，唔止一次，也唔止一人(但都是本地補習老師，英文老師），佢地對is 學生有個見解， ...

It does not really mean anything. There are local chinese people with really poor chinese standard too.
Student abilities are probably "gaussian distribution". I really do not understand why everyone expect all IS students to have very high english standard. There are good students in all countries and poor students in all countries.
It is perfectly normal for tutors to see students with poor grammar in IS. It is because they have low standard, that they seek help from tutors. And thus tutors see these type of students a lot. Sounds logical?
I think good writing skills in particular are the result of hard work, diligence, good learning attitude, etc.


Do not over-rate IS kids. They are normal people. Most people are unable to write really good essays in their first language. On the other hand, there is no need to magnify the weaknesses of IS students or IS. IS is just an alternative choice for parents and students.

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Jane1983

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這點都係，有些人會同IS差的學生的英文，和local最叻最搏盡果班去比，甘其實吾係甘全面。
英文在香港，尤其中上家庭，并吾係話好似幾十年前，父母吾識，無機會接触。而家有心學、有資源，吾少家庭係一媽一女，人釘人甘栽培，人地都可以叻。

mrshoho

Yes, not necessary.

samsam123321

Jane1983 發表於 14-11-24 12:05
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這點都係，有些人會同IS差的學生的英文，和local最叻最搏盡果班去比，甘其實吾 ...

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小學冇考試；你吹到宇宙最強都冇人可以駁你；上到中學有assessment有考試；唔係人人可以認叻。

samsam123321

(綜合報道)　　(星島日報報道)大學教育資助委員會昨日公布八大應屆學位課程畢業生的國際英語測試（IELTS）成績，近一萬一千五百名應考畢業生中，總平均分為六點七分，比去年微跌零點〇二分，除香港大學和城市大學外，其餘六所院校分別下跌零點〇一至零點〇七分不等。今年有三位考生在IELTS取得九分滿分成績，其中二人來自港大，港大今年平均分維持在七點一一分，繼續居榜首；教育學院平均分只有六點三三分，排末席。
　　一二╱一三年度八大院校應考IELTS的應屆畢業生人數接近一萬一千五百人，約佔全日制及兼讀制學士課程應屆畢業生總人數的六成，今年畢業生的總平均分為六點七分，比去年輕微下跌零點〇二分，近八成三考生考獲六至七點五分，於IELTS的評分標準中，獲評為良好或優良的英語運用者。
　　在IELTS的四個單元測試中，應屆畢業生在「閱讀」及「聆聽」方面的成績較好，他們在這兩個單元的平均分分別為七點三九分及七點一二分，而「書寫」及「會話」的單元測試中，平均分僅為六分及六點〇四分。
　　八大院校中，只有港大的平均分過七，與去年一樣維持在七點一一分繼續居首，緊隨其後的依次為中文大學、科技大學、浸會大學、理工大學等，分別得六點九五分、六點七五分、六點五九分和六點五三分。
　　除港大得分維持不變和城市大學微升零點〇一分外，其餘六所院校的平均分皆下跌。當中以排尾二的嶺南大學跌幅最多，由去年六點四四分下跌至今年六點三七分，下跌零點〇七分；教院則再下跌零點〇一，平均分只有六點三三分，在八大位列最尾。
　　今年有三位考生在IELTS取得九分滿分成績，分別為兩名法律系和一名社會科學系學生，其中兩位來自港大。港大表示，今年該校有二十四名學生考獲八點五分，佔全港比例四成三，另有二百四十九人考獲八分或以上。
　　現時八大學生在學期間均可以獲教資會資助報考一次IELTS，有關資助會在一四學年取消，換言之，所有八大包括今年入學的一年級生，若要獲教資會資助報考IELTS，須把握今學年最後一次機會。

samsam123321

建議想知道英語能力可參與ielts, 以7.5 分為之好過平均本地精英。
話時話，識得一個16歲讀非全英語環境的is 學校學生都有7.5分，我都想知講英文的is 學生會考幾多出來。

samsam123321

台灣考生在聽力、閱讀、寫作、口說都有顯著的攀升，總平均分數從2007年的5.59分進步到2012年的5.9分。據英國文化協會公布的最新數據，台灣考生的5.9分，在鄰國中，僅落後香港的6.4分，與韓國5.9分平分，並領先日本的5.8分和中國大陸的5.6分。
其實港生已算考得好。

mrshoho

I thought this topic was just asking for suggestions on whether or not extra English tuition is necessary if your child is studying at IS, I guess parents are wanting their kids to be number one in English, then extra English class is a must! Hahaha... it all depends on the expectation.  I said no in my previous reply post because I expect my child to be able to communicate in English, but not to be an English scholar.  And I really don't understand why parents tend to compare LS and IS for everything, they are two systems, why need to compare?

torunpoland

It is because HK parents can indeed choose either local or international system. A comparison is understandably required.

ycykkk

小甜甜媽咪 發表於 14-11-11 20:45
Pls share! Many thanks

depends on which aspect you're talking about. speaking and listening is generally not a problem.
however, writing and grammar in particular, is not generally well taught in IS. this may be because teachers assume "if you can speak, you can write". so formality and quality of writing can differ quite widely among students.
also, IS students tend to mix up basic grammatical rules like your, you're because they are too used to speaking english