點樣先可以將中文小學的小朋友既英文水平提高

mirage

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Thank you. I knew the importance of phonics but phonics do have blind point in my opinion. That is those borrowed words derived  from other language like "inertia" and "placebo" which phonics cant tell their spelling. Would IPA more useful in the precise pronounciation of a word and other foreign language though that may only importance in university level. I use my English dictionary quit often as I need to deal with my kids homework and my English is not good.

akys

又不能把IPA說到一文不值。始終IPA能提供英文的正確讀音，包括重音輕音而這些Phonics並沒有涵蓋。 Phonics好像只有20年​​曆史，我們這一代應該沒有學過，所以不奇怪那邊並不知道它對學習英語的好處。
相對IPA，Phonics對小孩的學習英語的效果大的多。看文識讀已經是一個優勢，雖然讀錯的機會蠻大，但只要配合多聽多講就能解決。學會每一個字的讀音，加上混音，溫默書簡單得多，就算Unseen都不難，大前提是老師發音標準。
IPA到中學有時間再學吧。

mirage

我想你誤會了，我用字典主要不是查音，而是查意思學用法。俾小孩子一個榜樣用實書。至於IPA,我不識，只是認為去到大學讀語文major,IPA一定要識。小學生，當然phonics 。

mirage

究竟是近墨者黑；定係出於污泥而不染，一早令小孩接觸有好有不好的人而從旁灌輸大家認為正確的價值觀，真是各家有各說。但我相信有好多家長揀私校／直資，其實是想搵家庭背景好些的小孩做同學，也是間接讓小孩選朋友做。

annie40

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真系非常喜剧味, D 道理有D似周星驰的对白, 搅笑得理仲有不少家长话'好野', D 编剧应该多D 上EK学番D '舜野'

shadeslayer

原帖由 mirage 於 12-12-21 發表
究竟是近墨者黑；定係出於污泥而不染，一早令小孩接觸有好有不好的人而從旁灌輸大家認為正確的價值觀，真是 ...

我諗關鍵係她說因此孩子很少朋友。

Ahbee02

其實個貼我留意左好耐了。但沒怎麽回應過。

貼的內容是有可取之處的，如睡眠的重要性。于我而言，中文用閱讀，數學多練習也有借鑒之處。

至於提到英文學習，交友，甚至應挑什麽中文書看等等我就有保留。

看貼過程根據自己孩子具體情況取其精華，去其糟粕就是了。最忌不經思考和咀嚼就運用。

shadeslayer

原帖由 mirage 於 12-12-21 發表
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Thank you. I knew the importance of phonics but phonics do have blind point ...

Would IPA more useful in the precise pronounciation of a word and other foreign language though that may only importance in university level.

Xxxxxxx

I am an straightforward person. I think the best way for children to learn listening is to listen more, the best way to learn speaking is to speak more, the best way to learn to read is to read more. That is natural, especially for small children.

IPA introduces a new set of symbols in order to define the precise sound. Ask young children to learn IPA symbols and ask them to check the dictionary and read the IPA symbols to learn pronunciation is unnatural. Correct pronunciation is always required, adult or children. Children can learn correct pronunciations quite easily if you let them listen to the correct pronunciation a few times. Didn't we say children are all very good at mimicking? For those adults who want to improve pronunciation and who cannot learn through listening, IPA is useful. For phonetics researchers or secondary students who are interested in intricacies of phonetics, learning IPA is perfect.

IPA for small children? No thanks.

shadeslayer

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 12-12-22 發表
Would IPA more useful in the precise pronounciation of a word and other foreign language though that ...

Forgot to say, children with phonics background and has exposure to English TV, audio books, podcast, or someone at home speak English, they can very easily learn the correct pronunciation by listening a few times. If the English foundation of the children is not good, then you need to fix the foundation. In this case I still think we should spend time to improve the foundation rather than to learn IPA.

laorenjia

Annie123 發表於 12-12-21 20:35
搭了幾個月的棚，到底是甚麼葫蘆賣甚麼藥。

我又唔敢講有人搭棚，但佢除了真心分享外，難免有賣廣告之嫌。佢開宗明義就話自己係做補習嘅，無耐之後就叫人唔係關於補習嘅嘢就咪PM佢。

話時話，人哋都係揾食啫，shadeslayer有踢館之嫌。况且，老錢講過：「偏見可以說是思想的放假。它不是沒有思想的人的家常日用，而是有思想的人的星期日娛樂。」重話地獄係為好講理之人而設。唔啱聽就當娛樂囉。

shadeslayer

原帖由 laorenjia 於 12-12-22 發表
本帖最後由 laorenjia 於 12-12-22 13:53 編輯

踢館又好，踢爆又好，偏見又好。我由幼稚園班房升上小雜多年，有感情麻。我看了很久也未有出聲，但 enough is enough.

pandean

“取其精華，去其糟粕”
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我覺得個貼最精華的就是開頭叫人早點睡覺，同埋後來爭論那段了……

講時講，我留意左個貼好耐了，由濕疹和豆漿哪段開始覺得有點怪，但裡面答复的家長真系個個都答复好好好，讚讚贊的……shadeslayer未踢館的時候我真以為論壇的家長都對課外運動不要肢體碰撞，游泳不流汗，乒乓球會駝背那些n多怪點都好崇拜的。看到宜家終於掃清我腦海中的疑問了。

11Daddy

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