用戶登入
用戶名稱：
密      碼：
登記帳號忘記密碼

討論區

教育王國
教育講場
使用意見
幼兒教育
幼校討論
幼教雜談
小學教育
小一選校
小學雜談
中學教育
升中派位
中學交流
初中教育
專上教育
備戰大學
選科選校
國際教育
國際學校
海外留學
知識增值
課外活動
教材閱讀
公開考試
深造進修
特殊教育
特殊教育
資優教育
自閉寶寶
智能評估
徵求專區
二手市場
誠徵老師
組班專區
徵保母車

   聯絡管理員
搜索
教育王國 › 討論區 › 特殊教育 › "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "
樓主: kawai
go

"Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group " [複製鏈接]

kawai

Rank: 4


725
1761#
發表於 06-6-3 23:55 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Hi Siu Ming,

My son has been taken 2 course of Duflican prescribed by Trodd.  He seems to have no reaction of this medication at all.  However, some kids have good response of this one if yeast overgrowth is really the case.  

返回頂部

ivanmommy

Rank: 2


46
1762#
發表於 06-6-4 14:54 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Hi kawai,
Thanks for the information.

Hi Siu Ming,
We have used two courses of Diflucan last year. For our son it seems there was not any obvious difference. So we change to Nystatin from Oct last year to Dec, which he showed some improvement, such as more regular bowel open, better attention,better sleeping. In March this year we did the comprehensive stool analysis which showed presence of candida albicans ( a kind of yeast) which is sensitive to both Diflucan and Nystatin, in view of both the cost and safety, we gave him back the Nystatin, it seems to work.

返回頂部

chanchanboy

Rank: 4


544
1763#
發表於 06-6-4 18:39 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

今晚7:35PM, 無綫鏗鏘集講food allergy.
Carson's birthday in January 2000.

返回頂部

Siu_Ming

Rank: 3Rank: 3


127
1764#
發表於 06-6-4 23:25 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Thanks chanchanboy, kawai and ivanmommy!  I will see if there's any improvements after this course.

BTW, have you heard about NCD (Natural Cellular Defense or zeolite) which has recently received some attention in some on-line ASD forums in the States?  It claims to be an effective heavy metals detox agent and able to support healthy immune system.  and it is rather expensive as well.

Dr. Trodd suggested a round of DMSA challenge for my son after "fixing" the issue of hyperactivity.  He is a bit puzzled by low heavy metal levels as shown in the recent hair test (all were in the green band).  But I am reluctant to the use of DMSA and want to find other ways to get around it.

One online resource about NCD-->
http://shanti.com.au/ncd/cellular_defense.htm#Clinically_proven

Siu_Ming
耶穌在路上看見一個生下來就瞎眼的人。他的門徒問他說：「老師，這個人生來就瞎眼，是誰的罪造成的？是他自己的罪，還是他父母的罪呢？」 耶穌回答說：「他瞎眼和他自己或他父母的罪都沒有關係，而是要在他身上彰顯天主的能力。」(若/ 約9:1-3) 你應該在上主面前安心依靠，不要因萬事順當的人而煩惱 (詠/詩 37:7) "If you really love one another, you will not be able to avoid making sacrifices." ~ Mother Teresa

返回頂部

kawai

Rank: 4


725
1765#
發表於 06-6-5 09:10 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Siu Ming,

I think there'll be no problem if your son only takes the DMSA challenge test.  Most of the kids can well tolerate 2 dosages for 2 days.  It's worth to get a more accurate result before you make a move on chelation therapy.  

I've been reading some threads about zeolite sent by yahoo parents' group.  I'll search my old messages if there're any comment about this new product.  

返回頂部

Justin2002

Rank: 3Rank: 3


365
1766#
發表於 06-6-5 10:51 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Siu Ming,

My son also took the DMSA challenge during the last few days of 2005  (after our Xmas party).  However, I found that the results are not too accurate because there are a few items which show n/a results due to some reasons.  Thus, I did not have a full picture of every metal/toxic element which stay in my son's body.  Having said that, it's still worth a trial (as kawai mentioned) to discover more.  My son reacted not too vigorous but became hyper during the two days when he took the DMSA capsule.

Another thing to mention here to seek advice.
My son lately has 'poo poo' problem where he is unwilling to go and 忍 because his pat pat (skin) was hurt and broken.  The longer he 忍, the harder he can succeed in poo poo.  I have given him some medicine (from his paediatric doctor) to soften his stool (for 3 times now) but it seems no +ve effect.  He just curls his body and cries whenever he has the 'feel' but reluctant to go to toilet.  It always hurts to see a crying child!  

Justin2002

返回頂部

HayBMum

Rank: 4


646
1767#
發表於 06-6-5 18:35 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Justin2002,
Which probiotic is your son currently taking?  How long has it be taken?  It seems unusual if probiotic has been consumed consistently and changed regularly.

Siu-Ming,
I am facing the same problem with you.  Dr Trodd also asked my son to take the challenge test.  According to the recent hair test report (just did it in early May), the mercury level is around 0.8 which is in the yellow zone.  I think this reading is ok and Trodd also had the same comment.  But he still asked me to do the challenge test.  His theory was:  if you don't do the challenge test, you would not complete the treatment cycle.   

返回頂部

kawai

Rank: 4


725
1768#
發表於 06-6-5 23:10 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

返回頂部

kawai

Rank: 4


725
1769#
發表於 06-6-5 23:12 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Justin2002,

Aloe Vera juice can help ease constipation and promote a bowel movement.  I remember there's an organic one which is available at Green Cencepts.

Hope it helps.

   
Justin2002 寫道:
Another thing to mention here to seek advice.
My son lately has 'poo poo' problem where he is unwilling to go and 忍 because his pat pat (skin) was hurt and broken.  The longer he 忍, the harder he can succeed in poo poo.  I have given him some medicine (from his paediatric doctor) to soften his stool (for 3 times now) but it seems no +ve effect.  He just curls his body and cries whenever he has the 'feel' but reluctant to go to toilet.  It always hurts to see a crying child!  

Justin2002

返回頂部

Siu_Ming

Rank: 3Rank: 3


127
1770#
發表於 06-6-6 00:47 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

My son's got 0.36 for Mercury and 0.58 for Lead in January, within the green range.  The only element that falls within yellow is Aluminum which is 9.9 but Dr. Trodd said okay.  I understand that hair test may not be always an accurate indication of body's toxic level so his suspect is a reasonable one.  Well I may take his advice (and many of your suggestions) to do a challenge but certainly that will not take place during school days.  Summer holiday may be the right time.
耶穌在路上看見一個生下來就瞎眼的人。他的門徒問他說：「老師，這個人生來就瞎眼，是誰的罪造成的？是他自己的罪，還是他父母的罪呢？」 耶穌回答說：「他瞎眼和他自己或他父母的罪都沒有關係，而是要在他身上彰顯天主的能力。」(若/ 約9:1-3) 你應該在上主面前安心依靠，不要因萬事順當的人而煩惱 (詠/詩 37:7) "If you really love one another, you will not be able to avoid making sacrifices." ~ Mother Teresa

返回頂部

Justin2002

Rank: 3Rank: 3


365
1771#
發表於 06-6-6 09:46 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

HayBMum,

My son takes probiotic everyday.  He first started with Kirkman's acidophilus and changed to HLC Mindlinx after we made the order.  After finishing one bottle of Mindlinx, I gave him the Biokurt (bought in Little Giant) and still have a few left.  I shall stop this Biokurt and give him again the Mindlinx today.

Fortunately, with the help of school teachers and helpers, my son succeeded poo poo at school yesterday.

Thanks anyway for your advice and also kawai's suggestion of aloe vera juice.  By the way, what other brands of probiotics do you all suggest?  I look into the web of Kirkman's and they have a new (?) probiotic called pro-bio gold.  Not sure if worth a try!

Justin2002

返回頂部

ABBmom

Rank: 2


65
1772#
發表於 06-6-6 10:07 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Sharing: a documentary about autism.
http://www.childrenscornerschool.com/video/msnbc2.wmv

返回頂部

ABBmom

Rank: 2


65
1773#
發表於 06-6-6 10:10 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Justin2002 寫道:
HayBMum,

By the way, what other brands of probiotics do you all suggest?  I look into the web of Kirkman's and they have a new (?) probiotic called pro-bio gold.  Not sure if worth a try!

Justin2002


Someone on the web go to the '06 conference in USA and take some notes about probiotics recommended by the DAN. They are  Kirkman's Probiotic Gold, Primal Defense, Culturelle, Natren

返回頂部

HayBMum

Rank: 4


646
1774#
發表於 06-6-6 20:03 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Justin2002,

Alternatively with the Mindlinx and Biokurt, my son also takes Culturelle.   Among the 3, for my son's case, Culturelle is the best.  However, Culturelle contains trace level of casein and whey.

返回頂部

HayBMum

Rank: 4


646
1775#
發表於 06-6-6 20:13 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

My son's Mercury and Lead level were both high in the first hair test conducted in 2004.  I could recall that my son's high lead level was due to the high consumption of 猴子棗.  He cough for over a month and therefore I gave him 猴子棗 continuously.  I stopped to consume the chinese medicine after that and his lead level dropped significantly in the second hair test by 2005.   But the mercury level is still high (1.9).  Thereafter, I stopped all the seafood and his mercury level dropped to 0.84 in the recent hair test.  Although the hair test may not be very accurate, it indicates the level of change in the toxic element quite well.

返回頂部

MerMee

Rank: 3Rank: 3


108
1776#
發表於 06-6-6 23:20 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

返回頂部

jasper888

Rank: 3Rank: 3


231
1777#
發表於 06-6-7 08:12 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Anyone's child is taking enzymes regularly before each meal?  Please share your experience.  My Paed, not expert in Autism, asked me to stop it so I have only tried it for a short period of time previously.  But is now considering restarting it.  My son is not on  GFCF food.  Thanks.

返回頂部

Justin2002

Rank: 3Rank: 3


365
1778#
發表於 06-6-7 09:16 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Hi HayBMum,

Sorry for digging into details - but how do you find that Culturelle is the best?  I intended to order Pro Bio Gold on line but later found that Little Giant sells also.

And, by saying alternatively, do you (other moms) finish one bottle of probiotics and give another brand, or you give two (or three) different brands on different days eg. Mon - Mindlinx, Tue - Biokurt, Wed - Culturelle, etc.?

Thanks for all advice.

Justin2002

返回頂部

Justin2002

Rank: 3Rank: 3


365
1779#
發表於 06-6-7 09:26 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Jasper888,

Though my son does not regularly take fixed dosage of enzymes before every meal, he does have intake as follows (he is also not on 100% GFCF but will avoid as much as possible):

- Breakfast - AFP powder (1/2 tsp) with rice milk
- Before going to school - Zime Prime tablet x 1; No-Fenol tablet x 1
- Before lunch (at school) - Zime Prime
- Before tea (at school) - AFP tablet x 1
- Evening - AFP powder with rice milk if necessary (like he eats birthday cake), Zime Prime (not regularly) as he requests (he likes this one most)

Did you paed tell you why he suggested you to stop the enzymes?

Justin2002

返回頂部

jasper888

Rank: 3Rank: 3


231
1780#
發表於 06-6-7 17:37 |只看該作者

Re: "Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Thanks Justin2002,

I was not there during the consultation.  My Mom brought my child to the doctor's place.  The feeling that my mom had was the doctor thought that enzymes are not conventional drugs used in Paed field.  On the other hand, he supported the use of probiotics.

May I ask what is Zime Prime?

Thanks.

返回頂部

‹ 上一主題|下一主題 ›
1 ...858687888990919293... 120下一頁
返回列表
發新帖