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發表於 08-3-18 23:00 |只看該作者 |倒序瀏覽 |打印
Hi all,

My son is now Year 3 in international school. He is very interested in Maths and has been learning Abacus Maths珠心算 for almost 3 years. We're going to move house and I'm considering to switch him to other kind of Maths.

Any suggestion ?

Is Serlin學林 or Olympics Maths奧數 good ? Which one is better for international school students ?

Or, any other suggestions ?

Thanks
Ruby
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發表於 08-3-19 18:14 |只看該作者
學林 is good for students with average ability in Maths, while 奧數 is for kids talented in Maths. You may also consider enopi Maths (taught in English, please check the web for details) or courses offered by Infokids

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Tips for infokids

Hi all,

My daughter has taken the course at infokids and now is in the second term. This whole program is from Stanford Uni. in US and the children basically work on the course online at home especially when they are in primary school. One term is 3 months and that's how long the children work on one grade, but it's also extendable. Good thing is the course is self-paced at home with an on-site grade test at the end of the term which means your child doesn't need to go to the class physically until the test. The courses are designed for the gifted and it seems to be very tough, sometimes. But the graphics of the course is very vivid and attractive that my child always says, "I like this course." One thing to note is this course is from US, as I said, so some of the areas are not familiar to us, like measuring units and US money. But all in all, we like the approach that the program takes.

Here's the website. http://www.infokids.com.hk/

Hope it helps.
luluonthemoon

[ 本文章最後由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-19 20:19 編輯 ]


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Hi  luluonthemoon ,

Did your daughter take any courses or special training before she join infokids?

fili


原文章由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-19 20:16 發表
Hi all,

My daughter has taken the course at infokids and now is in the second term. This whole program is from Stanford Uni. in US and the children basically work on the course online at home especia ...

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Hi filicity,

No, she did not take any courses before starting infokids. I somehow stumbled on this name at some point last year when we were looking for something to do for her. She had taken IQ assessment earlier and that's how she was able to take the aptitude test at infokids which is the requirement of the course. If your child goes to a local school, you may want to seek for some info as I know they have run the courses in some of the schools. As they say and I found it out myself, the approach and the spectrum that they take towards the children in the course seems a little different to me from what I've seen in other math courses. If your child loves math and wants to see things in a little more perspective, it may be a fun to them. The amount that the children need to go through is not so much, but in the end, you'll find that your child has done a lot, without much notice and pressure. And it's actually strenghened my idea that the language proficiency is the key to learning whenever children learn anything. That's how I like this course for my child most. Above all, she can get to the course anytime she wants, at home!





原文章由 filicity 於 08-3-19 22:07 發表
Hi  luluonthemoon ,

Did your daughter take any courses or special training before she join infokids?

fili


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發表於 08-3-20 17:17 |只看該作者
Maths class for Int'l School Students

[ 本帖最後由 CherylMum 於 09-11-4 10:40 編輯 ]

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Hi CherylMum,

My child has joined this EPGY course for about 4 months as she's now in the second term. We joined thru Infokids, of course. The reason why my child doesn't turn up for a lecture is she's still 5 yrs and a bit young for a lecture on a weekly basis and  the second, but not the least, she doesn't understand Cantonese well enough to sit for a lecture. They say that even a child goes to an Int'l school, s/he likely needs to go and have a lecture every week if s/he is capable of delivery of a lecture in Cantonese. In the lecture, all the materials and homework are written in English, but the tutors do speak Cantonese to deliver. So what my child usually does is to study online and if there's any question, we ask by email and/or go to a Virtual Class website at a designated time to physically talk to the tutor in English. We use a microphone and whiteboard to work on particular problems as there's only 30 mins. at VC each time. But it is a bit sloppy as we often hit some techinical glitches and response time-lag. So I try to nail down the particular points that are tripping my child and lay them out for her by myself afterwards. Anyway, in my child case, she doesn't need to attend the lecture so far. Strictly speaking, I need to turn up at Infokids once or twice in a term to collect/return the set of the homework in a grade. The homework reinforces and elaborates the area covered in the online course and also introduces some other new areas that are not included in the online course. A child has to finish the whole set of homework before booking a date for the grade exam.

Hope it clears your question.

luluonthemoon


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發表於 08-3-20 22:29 |只看該作者
Hi luluonthemoon,
Thx!
Filicity

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發表於 08-3-23 21:12 |只看該作者
Hi luluonthemoon,

Do you mean that the kid must be 'gifted child' to join this course ? They need you to have proof that your child is a gifted one ?

Thanks
Ruby
原文章由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-20 00:27 發表
Hi filicity,

No, she did not take any courses before starting infokids. I somehow stumbled on this name at some point last year when we were looking for something to do for her. She had taken IQ asse ...

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Hi Ruby,

Well, they say this course is for the gifted as it goes like Education Program for Gifted Youth. But the clear definition of so called "gifted" can still depend on how someone calls it. They told us, for my child's case, which she hadn't even reached Year 1 at the time of application of the course, that we'd need to present something like IQ test score. However, as I found out later, they've run the course in some local schools and I don't believe all those who take the course have been through the IQ assessment before the start. It's best for you to give them a buzz and see what they're gonna say about the criteria.

[ 本文章最後由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-24 00:59 編輯 ]

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Thank you so much luluonthemoon.

I will give them a call to find out.

Cheers,
Ruby  
原文章由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-24 00:57 發表
Hi Ruby,

Well, they say this course is for the gifted as it goes like Education Program for Gifted Youth. But the clear definition of so called "gifted" can still depend on how someone calls it. They ...

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發表於 08-3-25 20:39 |只看該作者

回覆 #2 luluonthemoon 的文章

Hi luluonthemoon,

My husband had called Infokid today. They said my son needs to go thru their aptitude test before they can admit him to their course. And, we have to prove that he's among the top 10% at his year level. However, as he's in international school, there's no ranking/grading, we can't prove it with his school report.

In fact, our objective for enrolling him to extra maths class out of school is becos he has great interest in it. We do not look for academic excellence. From what we see in their website, seems the EPGY programmes are quite demanding in terms of homework, exercises and tests ? My husband is reluctant in this sense as he does not want to push too hard on our son and kill his interest in maths. What do you think about EPGY in these aspects ? Is the workload heavy ? Is the course interesting ? Does your daughter enjoy it ? How much time she has to put on this in average every day/week ?

Thank you for your advice in advance.

Ruby

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Hi Ruby,

The one thing I clearly remember hearing them say in the parents' session while the kids were on the aptitude test, "This is not the course for the children to become gifted. This is the course for the gifted children." And I think this is all about how they stand. They said that the course is kind of tough and if a child cannot keep up, the parents shouldn't push him/her as the course is designed for those who are up for it, but in this case, at their criteria. For me, the amount of homework is not surprising at all. Compared to Kumon or any other, it's just a piece of cake. In fact, homework plays a role of writing/drawing excercise as a child lacks these elements with an online-based learning. The best thing we like about the course is the depth of math literacy. For a child like mine whose curiosity is a rolling stone, the course provides her with a lot of fresh vocabularies in math and never gets her bored. For the last few days, she's worked on some variables which appears very often from Grade 1. That was word problems and asked her to come up with some equations. Like "Bill and Tom has 18 apples in total. Bill has 6 more than Tom. Write the equations and solve them." So my child came up with the equations like b + t = 18 and b - t = 6, then she needed to find what b and t were. She's done several problems in the kind and got the idea of how she should write the equations. It takes place step by step. Then, it'll be reinforced in the homework. She takes the full liberty of time spent on each question as she works on online. Also, in Geometry, she needed to sort out which shapes on the screen were convex or concave. Of course, there was a little lecture before the questions that shows what each of them is. My child on the next day by herself drew some shapes in a scratch paper, took the two points on the boundary and connected them outside the figures that proved the shapes concave. Geometry and Statistics are the areas of her favorite and she often asks me to help her go back for review. The course also have logic and reasoning, integers (addition, subtraction, multiplication and little division in Grade 2), fractions and measurement. She basically works a few times a week and each session is about half hour. Of course, if a child is capable without time constraint, go for it and keep it up. They can get to as far and fast as they can.

As I said, the course covers extensive math literacy and I don't really intend to let her stick to it if she's not up to par as grades go up. In fact, I know some children are taking time off until they get older and able enough as, especially secondary math and science, the courses require very high level of command in English.

I guess it's all up to you. If this seems to be a bit too much for your son to take. It may be true. It depends on your perspective towards learning math and beyond. Has your son seen the sample screen? Did he say anything about it?

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回覆 #1 luluonthemoon 的文章

Hi luluonthemoon,

I'm surprised that your gal can solve such a 'complicated' question at her age level. She's only 5 right ?

I did go thru the demo exercises and tests at Grade 3, 4, 5, 6 with my son. He found the Grade 3 and 4 ones quite easy while the Grade 5 ones seems new and interesting to him. But after knowing your daughter's sample of exercise, I think the demo exercises they put up seems too easy ? Which grade is your gal at now ?

In fact, I am quite impressed by the system and approach of this course. And, I also like the comprehensive content and the lively and interactive teaching approach.

I really don't know whether the workload is an issue to my son or not. As your gal's case, if the child is really interested in it and see it as a game instead of homework, spending half an hour or even an hour a day on it is not something impossible and difficult. Esp. as they are int'l school students. I assumed that your gal is from int'l school. Which school is she with now ?

So, is your gal already proven a gifted child ?

Ruby

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Hi Ruby,

Yes. My child is 5 yrs. old now and moved on to Grade 2 at EPGY about a month ago. What you saw at the demo is really a part of those grades. In fact, the beginning of each grade is normally covered with the reviews of the previous grades. Interestingly, I still see some very, very simple addition and subtraction like "9 - 3 =" popping up out of the blue in Grade 2. The way they teach is very much like "taking one step after another" with full of repetition. They don't stick to the same area in each session all time and that's why I guess the kids don't really get bored with it. Nowadays my child works on the each session for approximately the same amount of time, but a few month ago, whenever the areas that she liked or seemed easy did appear, she was willing to spend an hour on it. However, if she didn't feel up to it, the session could end up in only 15 mins.

I do agree with you, Ruby. To me, the way the course is designed and the approach it takes is very interesting. Intellectually interesting.

To tell the truth, she has passed the exam at German Swiss earlier this month for coming Aug. If there's nothing unexpected, like there'll be no one leaving, she will be a schoolmate of your son. The reason that we considered GSIS for my child is that we'd had some positive comments from GSIS parents that indicated the school would be able to meet her needs and, among them, there was a mom whose son is currently in Year 2 at GSIS and I came across winding up in a chat with her at the aptitude test at Infokids.She said her son did everything in math at school speedy-quick. He is a gifted child in math and the parents were looking for something suitable for him. She told me that she swore by the school so much in teaching the children with some academic strength.

My child sat for IQ test last year and her Clinical psychologist mentioned that she fell into the category of the gifted with that score. We had noticed her exceptional ability in English for all four skills, especially reading and writing at earlier age. For math, not much attention had been paid until we found Infokids. In fact, we looked for some class that could help her nurture the talent in that language respect.

I am not so much familiar with other math courses out there but in terms of EPGY, it does help a lot to build up math literacy.

[ 本文章最後由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-27 11:15 編輯 ]

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Hi luluonthemoon,

I've sent you a PM.  Please check.  Thanks.


原文章由 luluonthemoon 於 08-3-27 02:20 發表
Hi Ruby,

Yes. My child is 5 yrs. old now and moved on to Grade 2 at EPGY about a month ago. What you saw at the demo is really a part of those grades. In fact, the beginning of each grade is normally ...
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