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My son learnt piano for more than 3 years with the same teacher. Last August he has his grade 3 exam and only got 22, 22, 20 marks for the three exam song. Today he join the grade three competition and only got 73 marks. I don't know piano myself. Personally, I think my son got a bit talent in playing piano and practise every day. I don't know whether the teacher is one of the determinating factor for hindering him to get better result. As this teacher is the one and only one teacher I ever use. I don't know how the other teacher train the students. The fee for 4  half hour lesson is $750 (teacher come to my home). We are now preparing for grade 5 exam. What is the standard fee for this level. Will other much more "gurantee" teacher charged much higher. My son's teacher seldom train his site reading and aural test skill. Moreover, she didn't help my son distinquish clearly the many different scale in grade 5. Maybe she is not very experienced in teaching higher grade student and is not a pushy style teacher. I don't know whether I should try changing another teacher so as to seek for better result. In fact, I didn't got any referral. Any experienced teacher of parent can advise? Thanks!
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都可以係其中一個因素既。依你個情況,如果囝囝日日有練琴,又有跟足老師教既野,如果個老師教得既野係岩既,咁應該考試同比賽唔會咁低分。

其實最重要個你覺得囝囝跟呢位老師有冇進步? 如果冇咩成績咪試下轉老師,舊老師可能方法唔岩,新老師通常會有新火花。另外我覺得3級學半小時好似太少啦,起碼都學45分鐘,會唔會都係因為時間太短老師冇教得咁仔細呀?

我囡囡都試過轉老師,第一個老師係琴行的,資歷唔高,囡囡冇咩進步,學左2年譜都睇得好慢,所以先轉老師。新老師話其實由初級起都要練Aural,夾二重奏,做sight reading,咁樣先練到有音樂感d喎,至於scale, 老師話要從1級就要彈scale, 慢慢學, 學到3級到就識哂咁多個調,唔係等到考試先學。囡囡堂堂都有做aural,所以佢聽音都幾叻,囡囡睇譜都進步好大。老師中大音樂畢業,用三角琴教,有需要referral既pm我吧。


原帖由 YLK 於 10-3-30 00:22 發表
My son learnt piano for more than 3 years with the same teacher. Last August he has his grade 3 exam and only got 22, 22, 20 marks for the three exam song. Today he join the grade three competition an ...

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好既老師難求,一個又好又專業既就更難求,我覺得唔多唔少都同$$掛鈎!
原帖由 YLK 於 10-3-30 00:22 發表
My son learnt piano for more than 3 years with the same teacher. Last August he has his grade 3 exam and only got 22, 22, 20 marks for the three exam song. Today he join the grade three competition an ...


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Yes, it is the main reason.
Just like going hiking, if someone point you a wrong direction, no matter how hard you walk, you are walking in the wrong way.

Getting marginal result in Grade 3 but now going on to G5 is not quite realistic, so think about it.


原帖由 YLK 於 10-3-30 00:22 發表
My son learnt piano for more than 3 years with the same teacher. Last August he has his grade 3 exam and only got 22, 22, 20 marks for the three exam song. Today he join the grade three competition an ...

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!貓貓老婆! and sweet 321, thanks for your information, Would you pls PM me the information of the piano teacher you mentioned. I can't PM you as there are some problem in the system. Thanks!

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我都相信老師有影響的
我都唔識琴, 其實我之前都唔知咩叫好, 只係覺得佢教得有心機我女又夾, 咁就一路學(反正初學無咩要求)
到第一次JOIN MUSIC FESTIVAL, 我女老師當然同一時間有好多學生參加, 有D得獎, 有D無, 我去睇我女比賽(2級比賽), 聽對手彈, 發現好多係琴譜指定既漸大漸細, 跳音連音都做唔到, NOT TO MENTION TECHNIQUE了, 呢D好明顯係老師點教吧!
而我女初學琴, 琴老師已經問我想點教, 如果我想谷到恆一年考一級, 佢有佢教法, 當然佢會SUGGEST循序漸進慢慢培養音樂感, 唔係考試/比賽就無謂勁操了, 佢講過個好得人驚既CASE俾我聽, 有個學生剛剛轉去佢度學, 準備考G5了, 連PEDAL都未識踩! 現代既歌未彈過, 原因係"名師"急功近利, 永遠只操考試比賽歌, 需要踩PEDAL既歌都費事揀, 學少樣, 所以學生音樂感非常差(雖然TECHNIQUE好好)
想仔女用一個點既態度學琴, 你要考慮清楚了
(因為D唔愉快經驗, 我唔介紹琴老師了, 抱歉 )

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我以前係小學老師,為咗方便湊女自己開間琴室,我自己個女2.5歲我就教佢學琴,佢成日都會話,佢鍾意彈琴,唔鍾意睇TV。

其實小學或以下既小朋友,佢哋好受老師同埋啲歌影響,有好多學生我接手返嚟,話以前老師好乞人憎,佢哋好討厭練琴,因為有時佢哋啲考試歌/比賽歌唔係佢哋想彈既,根本唔明白首歌亦唔想練,就算日日練個幾鐘都係彈得唔好。

尤其是初學或者年紀細既,佢哋最鍾意彈啲佢哋識既歌,例如"輕鬆學鋼琴1-3"或者"Children's Pieces",大個少少既就喜歡"First Lesson in Bach",彈到又好聽又有成功感。你叫佢哋彈咩"Michael Page"既書,10個小朋友有8個都唔想練琴,因為啲歌難聽。小朋友聽覺敏感度高,喜歡就喜歡,唔喜歡只會越來越抗拒,老師既責任係了解小朋友鍾意彈咩歌,用啲佢喜歡既鼓勵佢先有用,唔係對住個syllabus逼佢哋學同埋練。

而且,3級開始最少要45min,4/5級開始最少要60min先夠時間,因為唔可以逼佢哋淨係狂操考試歌,要用其他"中和"一下,不停咁操歌以佢哋既心智係無可能支持到好長時間,學琴/練琴就變成一種無形既抗拒。要令到佢哋喜歡彈同埋喜歡聽,先會有好成果。

如果你可以列出你小朋友既問題,我可以個別深入少少答你,有需要就PM我啦。

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原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-4-1 12:14 發表
我都相信老師有影響的
我都唔識琴, 其實我之前都唔知咩叫好, 只係覺得佢教得有心機我女又夾, 咁就一路學(反正初學無咩要求)
到第一次JOIN MUSIC FESTIVAL, 我女老師當然同一時間有好多學生參加, 有D得獎, 有D無, 我 ...


家長可以參考下Charlotte_mom的意見,其實我哋做琴老師有時都會好怕,因為唔知係家長主導定小朋友主導,家長主導就要講清楚,你想谷考試定係比佢開心學,因為要谷考試無話唔得,不過你子女可能係好"無癮"地狂操4年我可以令佢考到8級;或者比佢每隔年先隔級考試,8年考8級但係可以彈多啲其他歌,學識欣賞不同composer同埋時期的歌,有時間仲可以彈下流行曲(最近啲小學生好鍾意要學"愛是不保留", 哈!)

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我女老師講過, 點無天份點蠢既學生, 只要肯努力一定可以考到8級, 死谷之嘛
不過咁學琴, 又係咪(心態上)正確呢.......
我女未準備G4考試前, 都係彈緊宮崎駿既歌集呢, 不過而家要停一停了
原帖由 gwengwen 於 10-4-2 12:24 AM 發表
家長可以參考下Charlotte_mom的意見,其實我哋做琴老師有時都會好怕,因為唔知係家長主導定小朋友主導,家長主導就要講清楚,你想谷考試定係比佢開心學,因為要谷考試無話唔得,不過你子女可能係好"無癮"地狂操4年我可以 ...


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唉! 大大話話我女女都換過6個琴老師,真係好的琴老師難求. 一個好的琴老師係可以對個小朋友有好深的影響的.其實女女已經學左琴好耐,我的中旨就係希望佢就學琴可以令佢專注力好啲,可以令佢relex啲,我從來都冇迫佢考試,吾想女女係有壓力的環境吓去學琴.  但so far跟過咁多個老師都冇一個有辦法令到佢鐘意彈琴,只有令到佢月來月討厭琴.  女女學左4年琴吾計以前tomlee個啲,E+先至係3級,但從來未考過琴試,但見女女一日一日想放棄,叫佢練慘過叫佢C,又可能女女真係天份比較差,啲琴老師個個教到佢好勞氣,好惡,佢就變左更加吾鐘意學.  其實所有琴老師都係上門,所以我都好清楚個情況. 教到打琴同打我個女隻手我都見過,就係咁,佢更加吾想學.老實講,我真係吾想女女放棄,真係好希望可以搵到一個真真正正有耐性有愛心的老師,其實每次我轉琴老師我都會同佢哋講清楚我女女的問題和我的要求,但每個老師起初都說自己好有愛心有耐性,但AT THE END個個都教到好似想食人咁 ,就算同d老師講過都係冇改善,係吾係真係冇一個琴老師係可以令女女對琴有興趣呢? 難到我真係要女女放棄學琴嗎?  其實,係bk我都試過有人介紹琴老師俾我,但都吾WORK,有個仲搞笑,都係bk啲人referral的,我搵佢教琴,點知當時佢知道我想搵個補數的老師俾女女,就同我講,其實佢都可以同我女女補數,佢仲話鐘意補數仲多過教琴,我真係x+yz佢,後來試左一堂我就冇要佢了. 有時真係好希望係BK可以refer 都D好的老師,但其實是真是假真係吾知囉 !


原帖由 Sweet321 於 10-4-2 20:09 發表
YES, 我小朋友的老師都好強調小朋友學琴ge心態, 而且經常話佢彈出來ge音色同佢品格有關, 唔準佢為exam而學琴,  


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其實係你囡囡自己唔鐘意,唔係老師令佢唔鐘意,我覺得學什麼都好,要由小朋友自己鐘意先有動力去學,唔係靠老師去令佢鐘意,咁樣迫出黎係唔得...其實小朋友上完音樂班加學第一年琴就知道佢鐘唔鐘意,你知道佢唔鐘意但又繼續迫落去只會有反效果。我建議停學一陣先,睇下小朋友對學琴心態上有冇變化。

原帖由 加油 於 10-4-3 08:57 發表
唉! 大大話話我女女都換過6個琴老師,真係好的琴老師難求. 一個好的琴老師係可以對個小朋友有好深的影響的.其實女女已經學左琴好耐,我的中旨就係希望佢就學琴可以令佢專注力好啲,可以令佢relex啲,我從來都冇迫佢考試, ...


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老師話考到三級以上而小朋友比較年少,最好請翻譯員,佢話問答題唔只平常的普通英文應對,係加上些對首歌的感想和風格等......還要整句完整作答,請問是不是?

小女六歲時考了二級琴試,沒有翻譯員,成績不俗,現八歲準備考四級,她傾向不想有人伴著考而分心和不自在,要幾天內作決定,怎樣好?

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我個女以前都係同你個女差不多,轉過好多老師(係不同琴行度學,琴行既老師又經常轉),又愈學愈無心機,永遠返到屋企都唔彈琴,同我作對,學了幾年也只是一級.後來好在我遇上另一位老師,真係同以前d差好遠,有愛心教同無愛心係兩回事,我諗因為老師係專業人士,教琴只是part-time,真正為興趣,我覺得老師亦有從心理角度去教我個女,所以居然成功,啊女自己主動彈琴之餘重幫學校choir伴奏,好感動.所以每次我見到有人找不到好老師我都會好落力推介我個女個老師.你有無興趣?

原帖由 加油 於 10-4-3 08:57 發表
唉! 大大話話我女女都換過6個琴老師,真係好的琴老師難求. 一個好的琴老師係可以對個小朋友有好深的影響的.其實女女已經學左琴好耐,我的中旨就係希望佢就學琴可以令佢專注力好啲,可以令佢relex啲,我從來都冇迫佢考試, ...

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can you pm to me ?


原帖由 choima 於 10-4-10 19:20 發表
我個女以前都係同你個女差不多,轉過好多老師(係不同琴行度學,琴行既老師又經常轉),又愈學愈無心機,永遠返到屋企都唔彈琴,同我作對,學了幾年也只是一級.後來好在我遇上另一位老師,真係同以前d差好遠,有愛心教同無愛心 ...

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Please PM to me, thx.

原帖由 choima 於 10-4-10 19:20 發表
我個女以前都係同你個女差不多,轉過好多老師(係不同琴行度學,琴行既老師又經常轉),又愈學愈無心機,永遠返到屋企都唔彈琴,同我作對,學了幾年也只是一級.後來好在我遇上另一位老師,真係同以前d差好遠,有愛心教同無愛心 ...
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