真道校長用學校錢買樓,買股票入自己"袋??? - 小一選校

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原帖由 happycj 於 10-11-17 23:57 發表
其他直資學校可否achieve 這些？
由此看來，我相信校方最後都是把錢放回學校。

即係一個賊仔, 穿完櫃桶底, 拎去買完馬, 贏咗, 不過放返入櫃桶, 無事.

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慘在個班莘莘學子,走唔走好呢?

無知是福

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原帖由 chei05 於 10-11-17 23:40 發表
are you wroking in this school- staff ? why not trust TVB's news, I trust TVB will checked clearly before they announce this news, and this report not show clearly the details, and too complicated det ...

Clam down, don't pointing finger before verification. If you read my other posts, I am strongly against those schools talking IB approach for years, definitely you know I am not a staff or parents of Logos.

If you don't understand the audit report or too lazy to read it, just go to the section 5.41 related to the DSS school using HK$10M to buy 3 properties. (page 44)

購置物業
5.41 在二零零六至二零零九年期間，有一間學校動用1,000 萬元非政府資金購置了三項物業，作為以英語為母語的英語教師的員工宿舍。審計署發現：
(a) 在上述三項物業中，有一項物業是於二零零六年八月購置，事前未經校董會審批。校方於二零零七年三月就購置該項物業取得事後批准；
(b) 學校並非該三項物業的註冊業主。物業以校監和校長的名義註冊；兩人簽署信託聲明，申明以受託人身分持有該等物業。教育局於二零一零年九月回覆審計署的查詢時認為，上述信託安排並不恰當，原因如下：
(i) 信託聲明並非以書面形式的文書設立；
(ii) 其中一份信託聲明沒有盡速提交印花稅署評定印花稅額；
(iii) 所有信託聲明皆未曾在土地註冊處辦理註冊；及
(iv) 校董會成立後，該等物業理應盡快移交校董會；

Definitely, they either made honest mistake or point of views, but not necessary cheating.

Buy and hold shares not necessary related to Logos.

The above only demonstrate TVB news 無線新聞
是是但但

, if you trust them, sorry I can't help.

I enjoy to guess those school names.

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原帖由 chei05 於 10-11-17 23:40 發表
are you wroking in this school- staff ? (Most common quote in HK.) why not trust TVB's news, I trust TVB will checked clearly before they announce this news (How do you know they did?), and this report not show clearly the details, and too complicated det ...

Clam down, don't pointing finger before verification. If you read my other posts, I am strongly against those schools talking IB approach for years, definitely you know I am not a staff or parents of Logos.

If you don't understand the audit report or too lazy to read it, just go to the section 5.41 related to the DSS school using HK$10M to buy 3 properties. (page 44)

購置物業
5.41 在二零零六至二零零九年期間，有一間學校動用1,000 萬元非政府資金購置了三項物業，作為以英語為母語的英語教師的員工宿舍。審計署發現：
(a) 在上述三項物業中，有一項物業是於二零零六年八月購置，事前未經校董會審批。校方於二零零七年三月就購置該項物業取得事後批准；
(b) 學校並非該三項物業的註冊業主。物業以校監和校長的名義註冊；兩人簽署信託聲明，申明以受託人身分持有該等物業。教育局於二零一零年九月回覆審計署的查詢時認為，上述信託安排並不恰當，原因如下：
(i) 信託聲明並非以書面形式的文書設立；
(ii) 其中一份信託聲明沒有盡速提交印花稅署評定印花稅額；
(iii) 所有信託聲明皆未曾在土地註冊處辦理註冊；及
(iv) 校董會成立後，該等物業理應盡快移交校董會；

Definitely, they either made honest mistake or point of views (Definition of complete trust, because of stamp duty..... ), but not necessary cheating.

Buy and hold shares not necessary related to Logos.

The above only demonstrate TVB news 無線新聞
是是但但

, if you trust them, sorry I can't help.

I enjoy to guess those school names.

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原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-18 00:29 發表

Clam down, don't pointing finger before verification. If you read my other posts, I am strongly against those schools talking IB approach for years, definitely you know I am not a staff or parents o ...

thank you for sharing, the report was so details.

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原帖由 眼超超 於 10-11-18 00:38 發表
thank you for sharing, the report was so details.

You are welcome.

I watched most TV news channels tonight, only TVB disclosed Logos. I further chased headlines of Apple Daily, we all know their style of reporting, amazingly, very simple statement and provide a link of the complete audit report, so I read through the report and see so many gaps to draw a wrong conclusion against Logos.

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我尋晚睇now tv,都係話真道。

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Is there any link to watch last nite's TVB news?

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The above only demonstrate TVB news 無線新聞
是是但但 , if you trust them, sorry I can't help.

冇錯，審計處沒有公佈，但這並不表示無線無法知道此校名字(從常識上，無線無可能無中生有亂咁講，連生果都冇開名嘛)。所以，這不能demonstrate TVB news 無線新聞
是是但但，只能demostrate"無線新聞是是但但"的結果有點兒是是但但。

當然，我既未看報告，又冇睇新聞，就係度亂吹水，足見最是是但但的是我。

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投資基金,現在都無MUG保本基金, 好危喎!輸曬點算, 輸一半都死. 買物業又用自己名義買.

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原帖由 judy 於 10-11-18 09:32 發表

冇錯，審計處沒有公佈，但這並不表示無線無法知道此校名字(從常識上，無線無可能無中生有亂咁講，連生果都冇開名嘛)。所以，這不能demonstrate TVB news 無線新聞
是是但但，只能demostrate"無線新聞是是但但"的結果有點兒是是 ...

今日睇萍果, 成間真道影晒相. 報導中仲寫住:

其中位於將軍澳的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院，據悉更豪花千萬元購置 3項物業，但收購事前未經校董會審批.

真道書院於 06至 09年間，動用 1,000萬元非政府資金購置 3項物業，作為外籍英語教師的員工宿舍，其中一項於 06年 8月購置的物業，原來未經校董會審批。不過，學校並非該三項物業的註冊業主，而是由校長和校監以個人名義註冊，以受託人身份持有物業，但該信託聲明並非以文書設立，亦未曾在土地註冊處辦理註冊。
另外，真道書院疑斥資 15萬元，為來自內地的校長提供培訓，免費為參加者提供交通及食宿，有關計劃未得校董會批准，學校事前也沒有就計劃擬備財政預算；該校在未有公開招聘下，請了 36人。校長丘日謙昨未有任何回應

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今天睇了報紙,係真道
不過唔係全部都係佢
買樓就係佢 - 但明明2009年她都沒有NET teacher,為什麼還要買宿舍? 係俾她從外國聘請的ABC?
辦校長討論都係佢
沒有公開聘請36個老師都係佢
未經批准為四川地震籌款,我估好大機會都是說她

但如果咁睇,她都犯了很多條
不過連買股都入埋佢數,就.....有少少切生豬肉

原帖由 silvia_ng 於 10-11-18 07:34 發表
我尋晚睇now tv,都係話真道。

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買樓就係佢 - 但明明2009年她都沒有NET teacher,為什麼還要買宿舍? 係俾她從外國聘請的ABC?

要查查宿舍是否有住人，住甚麽人？

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有眼光????!??!!? 咩理論？有錢賺就不用加學費, 蝕左咁點計？係咪double學費幫校長補倉？
宜家係講緊搞教育, 唔係搞投資公司……

原帖由 happycj 於 10-11-17 23:57 發表
如果學校真是拿多餘錢去投資，我反而覺得校方幾有眼光。好過亂用，亂花。
校長今年夏天小學簡介會時, 曾說暫時都不用加學費，且學校己有足夠錢起新翼(不用另外集資)，新翼有室內場和游泳池及200人宿舍等。此外，校長也說高年班 ...

[ 本帖最後由 vaga 於 10-11-18 11:23 編輯 ]

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原帖由 brian61950 於 10-11-17 23:53 發表

宗教創立者本導人向善及無私增愛,可惜......
太多人欺世及唔少人盲目追隨.

任何宗教都有害群之馬,損錢時請小心.
宗教不等於慈善團體,政府亦無權管,無權理.

好多時,好多人損埋損埋好多好多錢,唔知去左邊,得個5條友理,心正則正,心邪則邪,
賣旗見到某宗教我都時運高,避而不見.

無謂益個d有老婆,有仔女,有慾望,有車有樓,但無私(自吹)又無人查到數個d人/使者.
...

現在是直資學校出問題，係學校管理層同政府嘅問題，同宗教／基督教有什麼關係？！！

任何一個社會，機構，團體或學校都有不良份子存在，請勿將問題引申到宗教。

我自己係無宗教信仰，但感覺你好像借題發揮。

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This comments are not only related to LOGO, but related to all DSS schools...

I have two kids going through the P1 interviews in the past few years and all to DSS schools and I observed:

1) some "leaders" were really good in their presentations (say, consistent, genuine and understand or admit their own limitations)

2) some "leaders (e.g. principal, usually presented in seminer)" seemed to be presentable, seemed to have great "missions", seemed to be very "loving" and with great "visions" or "professional in education"

BUT.... you will see the inconsistencies in their "Presentations in Admission Seminar" and the "Realities of P 1 admission interview process"

3) Give some examples that I do think is "unethical" in their practice or "inconsistencies"

a) "Loving" principal avoid to admit the "administration mistakes" e.g. releasing of results before the completion of interview process and telling "lies" on their administrative incompencies....

b) "Elite" types of principal was selling his books at the interview day and their staff was encouraging the parents who were waiting for their kids to buy the book and asked the principal to sign the book...

c) "Visionable" type of principal was selling their vision by not revealing the uncertainties or realities of IB curriculum to their "die hard fans" - there was no obvious lies, but concealing or keeping silence may be fatal as well!!

d) "Loving and caring principal" did not stopped unfair admission procedures, even encouraging "discriminative knocking door" practices to fulfill his own "pride" or "ignorance"

What do you think....do you think these leaders needs training in "educational ethics" or "self-understanding" courses again???? So that they are more aware of themselves; more aware that they "mission" and "vision" or "love and caring hearts" does not help, but also damaging their school reputations as well as damaging the parents and students...

原帖由 I/LOVE/3T 於 10-11-18 11:21 發表

現在是直資學校出問題，係學校管理層同政府嘅問題，同宗教／基督教有什麼關係？！！

任何一個社會，機構，團體或學校都有不良份子存在，請勿將問題引申到宗教。

我自己係無宗教信仰，但感覺你好像借題發揮。 ...

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我自已雖然無宗教信仰, 但一向對基督教有好感, 感覺好正氣, 但睇完報道後, 即時感覺係任何宗教或團體都有害群之馬, 影衰晒, 唉....

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高手呀, 買樓用自己名, 當個市升時便可當係自己, 個市 drop 時又話係幫學校買, 進可攻, 退可守, 有如此學長, 真係學生之 "福"呀 ~~~

原帖由 眼超超 於 10-11-18 10:31 發表

今日睇萍果, 成間真道影晒相. 報導中仲寫住:

其中位於將軍澳的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院，據悉更豪花千萬元購置 3項物業 ...

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It's not about "religious" or "non-religious", BUT

If someone is using "religion" to see himself/herself as loving and "perfect", then to cover their "mistakes" with religious principles of love and care, then they are

Hipocrates

原帖由 crystalwsm 於 10-11-18 12:49 發表
我自已雖然無宗教信仰, 但一向對基督教有好感, 感覺好正氣, 但睇完報道後, 即時感覺係任何宗教或團體都有害群之馬, 影衰晒, 唉....