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本帖最後由 GandL 於 12-1-17 12:17 編輯
very interesting post.
have been following this post for quite some days. finally want to join in as well (at the risk of being criticized though).
To be fair, i should first declare that: -
1. I did submit application to (and for which I lined up for over 1.5 hours) and bring my daughter to SH for interview (waited for around 45 minutes, followed by an interview of no longer than 5 minutes) 2 weeks ago
2. I am an old girl of Sacred Heart kindergarten & primary school ~ and frankly, I still have a strong sense of loyalty and pride for being a graduate.
This post is very interesting in the sense that, some people just turn so critical and defensive whenever any criticism arises as to the interview / application arrangements of SH.
It seems like whenever a criticism / opinion on how things could be improved has been raised, there is bound to be "feedback" / criticism saying that this is indicative / reflective of the "complaining" culture of HK, the selfishness of HK people/parents, "monster-parents", those parents must be "bad" role models for their kids ... ...
On this, I really could not agree.
1. the purpose of a forum is for everyone and anyone to express their view. I am frankly puzzled by such comments as "it serves no purpose to keep complaining here ~ if you have so much grievance, the proper channel should be to communicate your dissatisfactions to the school". Come on, this is exactly the purpose of a public forum ~ if a parent feels that something is wrong (whether this view is shared by anyone), why can't they speak out? why should people who voiced out dissatisfaction need to be negatively labelled? This is a public forum on education, we are not in a support group for any school .... how discouraging it is for the parents who genuinely felt the grievance and wanted to voice out ...
2. I cannot stress how much i love this school, and how strongly I wish my girl could be admitted (though the chance is extremely low). I can still my strong connection to it. However, I (as a parent who also applied to other kinders for my girl) just could not deny that the entire arrangement is far from satisfactory. The fact that I like the school does not mean the school should be "untouchable", or that I could not allow any negative words about it.
3. In my view, the worst part of the entire process is the application stage. I still could not understand what necessitated the need for requiring all parents to line up solely for the sake of submitting an application form? The school must know from experience that there are bounds to be thousands of application. it is not difficult to imagine the chaos by only allowing a total of 5 hours for thousands of in-person applications.
With the modern technology (or even without any technology), what stops the school from accepting applications by post (like most kinders do), or allowing a longer application period if they for any reason insist on in-person application (Precious Blood allowed like a week or two for this process). That could ease so much of the hassle and stress and waste of time on the part the parents. Seriously, despite my love for the school, when i was actually lining up just because I needed to hand in the few sheets of paper, I do feel that it is wholly inconsiderate and unreasonable. (yes i know, some of you may say, if you want to play the game, follow the rules. I did, so i lined up and applied. But that doesn't mean i do not have the right to have my own thoughts / views).
I know it has been said earlier that the school needs in-person application so that they could check the originals of the docs submitted. This, with respect, is not sufficient justification. If the school has such doubt, they could always request for inspection of originals before registration upon acceptance of any student. This would not (I believe) add on too much to the admin costs since (a) the use of forged documents should be highly exceptional, and (b) in any event, there are bound to be students who would give up the places, and the school would thus need to call up students on waiting list in any event. as such, if the school does discover that a parent submits forged documents (which i believe and hope is very very very rare), they could simply withdraw the acceptance and then call up another student on the waiting list to replace the vacancy. why trouble thousands of parents just for this slight slight possibility that someone might cheat?
thus, I do remain of the view that this part of the application is entirely unsatisfactory.
4. Re the actual interview, I don't have much complaint though. No doubt, we did need to wait for 45 mins, but i do feel this is not something that the school could control. there are simply too many applicants. it is definitely a tough task for the school. As such, the need to line up and wait is, kind of, unavoidable. On this, I could understand the practical difficulty of the school, and I can see that it (as well as all the parent volunteers) already did their best in the limited resources available.
As to whether they should open the playgrounds etc, seriously, i am fine either way. I respect that this is something for the school to decide (considering such factors like chance of chaos, capacity of the facilities, safety, etc etc). Whether I like it or not, I will respect the school's decision on this (though for me, it might be better if my daughter could have some external assistance in maintaining her patience ~ though i would say, she did well well during the entire waiting process, as we kept looking around at and chatting about the things we saw , talking about the art works displayed, coupled with non-stop singing, dancing and chit-chatting, etc ~ but yes, i can't deny it is exhausting). But again, no complaint on this.
Seems like I have written a lot more than i planned to. But what i want to say is, whether or not you are related to the school (by e.g. having daughters studying there, and is well-known as being a die-hard fan) is entirely irrelevant when it comes to the specific question of how satisfactory the interview process is. I still remember that one thread (which appeared on the first day of application) when a parent expressed her unhappiness/anger as the school stopped the queue after she lined up for like over an hour, and then asked her to come back like 2 hours later ~ that poor parent was being so strongly criticized to such an extent that, to me, was outrageous and not justified ~ all she wanted was to express her own feeling (whether you agree to it or not), there is just no need to feel so offended or be that defensive whenever your dream school is under criticism.
Hope we could still respect everyone's right to voice out whatever they want to (except, of course, if it involves personal attack or the use of foul languages etc). if you disagree with any views, do feel free to state your position (preferably with reasons), but pls don't lightly label or mock others who have different view as being "selfish", "self-centered", "inconsiderate", "monster-parent", "lacking the ability to appreciate efforts paid by others" ... ... ... this is just not necessarily the case.
I still believe a public forum should be capable of accommodating different views from different people.
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發表於 12-1-16 15:06
Agreed!! Also, We should never say the kinder has the "worst" arrangement among others.. Just comparatively, it may not be the best.
