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如果讀恒管, 我寧願讀HKU SPACE和LSE合辦的校外學位課程. 歷史都悠久D.

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想一想以恒管成立不過幾年已有timetable 上私大，再望其他同期的不是说10年就是没戲！
以大學為招牌的更加有利益衝突，上私大是無期的

再問基本問題，學位的認受性。恒管是政府approved,  bridgecourse need to register.

general degree 差不多，但professional  就不一樣。
如會計，恒商是accredited by hkicpa  but oversea bridgecourse is  not a  must

所以如是恒管和其他院校的學院，恒管是較有前景的！

除非你想從院校升回大學，不過請先查清楚有多少師兄可升上！那是全级幾人only！而且多是水池科。

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想一想以恒管成立不過幾年已有timetable 上私大，再望其他同期的不是说10年就是没戲！
以大學為招牌的更加 ...

I disagree with your points.

想一想以恒管成立不過幾年已有timetable 上私大，再望其他同期的不是说10年就是没戲！
以大學為招牌的更加有利益衝突，上私大是無期的 ----- Even if they have the timetable, that doesn't mean that they can become a university according to their timetable. See Shue Yan. They fighted for many years to become a university.

再問基本問題，學位的認受性。恒管是政府approved,  bridgecourse need to register. ----- Approved by the government doesn't mean that their degree will be competitive. All courses registered are "approved".

general degree 差不多，但professional  就不一樣。
如會計，恒商是accredited by hkicpa  but oversea bridgecourse is  not a  must -----  Other accounting courses are accredited by other professional bodies. Some of them have reciprocal arrangement with HKICPA. However, when I check the website of HKICPA, I couldn't find 恒商 in the approved list (except that 恒商 stated in their website that their programs are accredited by HKICPA). Interestingly, I do find some bridging courses accredited by HKICPA, such as Edinburgh Napier University (in collaboration with SCOPE of  City University of Hong Kong) and University of South Australia (in collaboration with the  School of Continuing Education, Hong Kong Baptist University).

所以如是恒管和其他院校的學院，恒管是較有前景的！ ----- Accounding to the above points, I don't see its future is brighter.

除非你想從院校升回大學，不過請先查清楚有多少師兄可升上！那是全级幾人only！而且多是水池科。 ----- Not too sure about your meaning, but there are many examples from associated degree to bachelor degree la.

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I disagree with your points.

general degree 差不多，但professional 就不一樣。
如會計，恒商是accredited by hkicpa but oversea bridgecourse is not a must ----- Other accounting courses are accredited by other professional bodies. Some of them have reciprocal arrangement with HKICPA. However, when I check the website of HKICPA, I couldn't find 恒商 in the approved list (except that 恒商 stated in their website that their programs are accredited by HKICPA). Interestingly, I do find some bridging courses accredited by HKICPA, such as Edinburgh Napier University (in collaboration with SCOPE of City University of Hong Kong) and University of South Australia (in collaboration with the School of Continuing Education, Hong Kong Baptist University).

吓！！我英文比較差，意思是....還末核實的degree ？

http://www.hkicpa.org.hk/en/become-a-hkicpa/how-to-apply/entry-routes/

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我想這位朋友是年纪較輕的所以没有清楚大專的發展史
樹大等講了多少年才升大學? 不是學術問题! 是政冶不正確!

當年學制4改3, 樹大為學術去 sayno…所以政府打佢入冷宫,不然早升班了。 CU 也 4 改3. 現在 3 改 4 變成合潮流所以才可升格！

活生生的例子是教院！升格與否, 誰人說才算? 是行局!

其他附屬院校根本是阿媽的搖錢樹, 如何比你獨立呀！

HKUspace成立了多少年?如要升私大早去馬, 要等今天？

恒管timetable 可信是因為:

1.政冶正確趕潮流: 開asso, private degree 推動政府政策

2.老板是商界背景(恒生)和政府有得講, 有 schedule 要地起facility ….they are working onschedule

3.老板有錢也没阿媽要養加上 investment較低(最貴是building)

4.Focus: 这個很重要, 恒管辦 business course only! 請問要D 咩野, soft or hardware? 不外是幾個有份量 professor( 恒商是請Raymond So 等由中大過檔) and a room. 要多少時間去辦? 起好D building 便是! 人都請了。其他有心有力如東華, 主力是 medical stream, 攪 lab 置equipment 在在需財也要幾年才能去做asset, 所以要10年是很快了。

雖然恒管話14/15 apply 升格, 但一切都是老催在年前敲定, 不是講好有溝通誰人投放幾亿去起野？地政都吴比地你啦！(好似讀明德要去小學上堂！)

恒管是政府approved 根住便是自已offer degree, 你覺得會摺嗎？

Registeredcourse 要regular renew, 不是一定 approve! 如有留意很多course 今年有, 明年可能冇或者轉代理商( 院校 or institute) 當然一些有名氣、有香港辦的當然好点

政府承認和認受性不是一致的, 政府承認是基本, 認受性要講名氣了！

可能elmkc太心急沒找清楚 HKICPA條link係

基本上本港的主要大專daycourse都是accredited,恒管是accredited, oversea 没幾間( registered course 多的是, 去ipass 看下便知)

我是2年前去 HKUspcae 聽accounting入學介紹的, 請問你估有多少人可以升上HKU? 有沒有人有资料?

升上HKU accounting year 1 or year 2 又有多少？DSE25分也不一定入到 HKU business, 14, 15分轉個圈比你上,講得通嗎？(有家長说今年14分,明德有offer )是否天真？(我也没有答案, 現場D professor 也不说)

有人上台講 asso graduate gpa 3.x( out of 4) 升去浸记讀閒科(忘了, non business) year 1( 心都凉了)

Asso/HD 爭取了多年政府才由今年多批資助year 2 位, 否则多數graduate是升 bridge course or go oversea.

Asso/HD 升上8 大資助位的實在不多 (不論year 1 / 2) 以工、理科為主, 熱門的商科根本無門

前景是主觀的! 學習上, 我想大婆仔的待遇總比2拉仔好

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多謝分享，你解答了我一些疑問！

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這是我個人的愚見，請勿見笑。
恒管是走專业商學院的路，只要專心单一。在少本錢下也可有大制作。

想想拿幾仟萬比D教授分，大把論文比你，世界排名要幾高都有！要爬上去要幾快有幾快！（現實錢有限)

同是幾仟萬去HKU,夠医學院要equipment, 定理學院做實驗？去到商學院夠開會定開飯？文學院可能聞only!

所以在大專中，恒管是較有前景的！(其他的多在走综合學院的死路) 外国不少business college是很出色的！

我是以那盤生意有前景值博去推論的！我不知那個老師有料，邊個有愛心，定有教育理念！

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難得的分享，好多事是前瞻性，好難說正確與否，但你展現了你分析的框架，有繼續探索的空間。你讓我對恆管有些新看法！

我即時想到LSE的江湖地位！

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非常同意您的分析，恆商主攻商業管理，就連傳播系也是主功走財經記者的訓練，呢個方向絕對正確。相比去年同期收新生的明德學院(也是走私立大學路線)，明德走綜合方向or其實是未有方向，而臨時校舍也真不理想，再者就是學費不便宜，兩者比較，恆商勝一籌。東華社區學院走護理路線，但內裡行政頗亂，在組織內做過的朋友都有點怕怕。

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我想這位朋友是年纪較輕的所以没有清楚大專的發展史

如果講到吹水,冇人夠你叻. 你講嘅嘢全無實證, 或者你可以去問吓UGC怎樣去正名大學. 或者呢到根本就係吹水區, 冇乜實證需要. 大家即管放長雙眼睇下恆管幾時轉U, 我就絕對唔睇好十年內可達到.

Also, age is not a factor to judge right or wrong. Maybe I am older than you. Then, so what? Regarding Shue Yan, I have friends graduating from there. Even they needed six years to get the university title, not to mention that they had been a tertiary institute for many many years.
Regarding Hong Kong Insitute of Education, please check why they couldn't get the university title up to the moment. This is formality not politics or exco barriers.

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item 認同，恆管同恆商是完全兩回事，學院拿著恆商預計成績的金漆招牌作招來，誤導學生，家長。發表於 13-8-14 12:55

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Reply to Macro-ma:

Sorry for the error of the information.

When I checked for the entry qualification for the hkicpa programme, I used the following website:

http://app1.hkicpa.org.hk/students(NEW)/siteA/qp3-1.php

The above website didn't have the name of 恒商. The above website seems to be an old one as you can check for the entry route in the following website, which has the name of 恒商: http://www.hkicpa.org.hk/en/become-a-hkicpa/how-to-apply/entry-routes/

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樹仁的歷史不是我吹水, 别太動氣

這是wiki 的節録關於樹仁

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Shue_Yan_University

Due to Shue Yan refusal to follow the government's model and plan for higher education in return for government funding in the late 1970s, Shue Yan development was often restricted. Shue Yan's unrelenting position to offer four-year programmes meant that it had to operate as a truly private institution, without any government funding. Because of this, Shue Yan cannot meet the three-year university degree requirement and has to refer itself as a college rather than a university.

讀多一年就 cannot meet the three-year university degree requirement , 可笑吧, 你覺得是甚麼理由？

also same history mentioned in their school web

http://www.hksyu.edu/history.html

恒管的前景是個人觀点, 基於恒管的作為而推斷,. 當然那只是 a plan. Believe or not is your business.

But at least they get a plan which is going under schedule. How about those with nothing, but some visions only?

老實講我誰也不信, 我只是聽其言觀其行而巳有行動的總比光吹水的強! 對吧！

教院升格, 我是支持的, 更希望他能比恒商早

在BK , 大家是交換資料和觀点, 不用太勞氣

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在wiki 上 , 教院的資料...香港教育學院風波

政府的取態才是關鍵, 2007 已講正名至而家.....6年了, 你信是 formality not politics or exco barriers

http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%A6%99%E6%B8%AF%E6%95%99%E9%99%A2%E9%A2%A8%E6%B3%A2

校長莫禮時在教院公開論壇表示，去年12月29日與李國章會面時，李氏以八條理由反對教院升格：

教院在學術上已取得一定成就，毋須改變現況。
公眾對教院的認知屬無知，政府毋須為迎合無知的大眾而改變現有政策。
若教院獲正名，香港大學醫學院將跟隨教院作出正名的要求。
內地及前蘇聯曾開設專科大學，均不成功。
世界許多知名學府均沒有大學之名，如MIT麻省理工學院。
教院獲自我評審資格(2004年時獲得)與獲正名成為大學是兩回事。
教院希望正名的原因是出於虛榮心。
開設單一學科的大學非世界趨勢。

如果你係老板 , 伙記話apply license 去左不止6年實在幾時 approve 又話唔知. 你會点？你信 formality only! 真係人地要那些柬西也不知, 次次打回頭！咁都信！

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在wiki 上 , 教院的資料...香港教育學院風波

I have friends who are working in HKIEd. I've got information from them. Your information about HKIEd and Morris is not updated. As said, you should consult UGC for the requirements for 正名. I said formality because HKIEd needs to meet the requirements.

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想請教，為何「正名」會跟 UGC 有關！

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在wiki 上 , 教院的資料...香港教育學院風波

I just asked my friend who is working in HKIEd. He said that 李國章 didn't allow HKIEd named as university because Chinese University would like to acquire it. Perhaps 李國章 is still not happy with that matter. But, does he have the power to prevent 教院正名? My friend said that he "personally thinks this would not happen". However, it needs time to see what will happen.

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這是一篇不久前的報紙 23/3/13

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20130323/00176_049.html

張校長的承諾是

張仁良指上任後首要任務是爭取教院正名，但他未有訂立時間表，亦無承諾在任期內成事，認為正名只是時間問題，「謀事在人、成事在天」。

教院教學人員協會主席李展華則指出，港府需要審視教院非教育課程的質素，故時間上難以估計

meet requirement 姐, 何以教院人話 "故時間上難以估計" ....你話点解？

点解張校長不去辦事去看天？定係可以做的巳做, 只可等運到呀！

李皇上代表的不是個人呀! 要等風向再轉才有機會！雖知天意難測呀！