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標題: St Paul Boys 及聖類斯小學程度相差幾遠呢? [打印本頁]

作者: mymelody2003 時間: 08-10-28 14:34 標題: St Paul Boys 及聖類斯小學程度相差幾遠呢?

如果2間學校相比, 聖類斯有哪些不足的地方呢? 英文程度哪一間較深呢? 請分享!

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-28 15:31

我唔知St. Louis, 但St. Paul's Boy 一D都唔淺囉!

TTJTmama

原帖由 mymelody2003 於 08-10-28 14:34 發表
如果2間學校相比, 聖類斯有哪些不足的地方呢? 英文程度哪一間較深呢? 請分享!

作者: BMW70 時間: 08-10-28 16:26

可唔可以講吓St Paul 英文有幾深，等我有個心理準備?

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-29 12:41

Primary one 1st Term Test

1) Fill in the blank : Who, Which, What, How.....

2) 考preposition, 但有幅圖 - 比 (table / ball)
但要 Complete sentence and use the suitable words:
Ans : The ball is under the table.

3) Fill in "a", "an" & "X"

4) Show you a picture and words - Fill in the suitable words

5) He, his, She, her, I, my......

二份papers : 6 pages & 8 pages, F4 size papers, 各供35 min.

好難依時完成, 又要快, 又要準, 都幾有難度! 文中也有好多生字!

TTJTmama

原帖由 BMW70 於 08-10-28 16:26 發表
可唔可以講吓St Paul 英文有幾深，等我有個心理準備?

作者: picnic03 時間: 08-10-29 13:53

Yes, I completely agree with TTJTT mama that the English level required by the SPC boy is quite high. My son is 5.5 years old and just got 14 shields in the starters cambridge test held in Sept this year. I thought his English was not bad. However, he only got 81 & 82 marks for his English Comprehension and Composition Assessments for the first term exam. He was unable to complete the test paper.

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-29 15:34

Hi Picnic03,

你小朋友讀邊班? 同班D同學係咪有好多都做唔晒? 深淺一件事, 但35min 真係好難completed 8張papers, 攪到做漏而無分, 真係唔抵! 想向學校反影!

TTJTmama

原帖由 picnic03 於 08-10-29 13:53 發表
Yes, I completely agree with TTJTT mama that the English level required by the SPC boy is quite high. My son is 5.5 years old and just got 14 shields in the starters cambridge test held in Sept this ...

作者: HuiTung 時間: 08-10-29 16:38

原帖由 picnic03 於 08-10-29 13:53 發表
Yes, I completely agree with TTJTT mama that the English level required by the SPC boy is quite high. My son is 5.5 years old and just got 14 shields in the starters cambridge test held in Sept this ...

picnic03,

Your son is 5.5 years old NOW??? The minimum age to get into P.1 is 5 years and 8 months woh ... How could this be?

作者: BMW70 時間: 08-10-30 08:41

多謝各位媽媽/爸爸的回應，咁應該點預備咁深嘅考試? 一年級都咁深，咁一般學生係唔係都係八十幾分已經係top架啦?!

作者: mymelody2003 時間: 08-10-30 09:28

我諗st paul boys程度應該比普通小學高"半級"以上, 聽聞普通話都幾深架

你地覺得聖類斯英文程度怎樣呢?

作者: LittleKidult 時間: 08-10-30 09:46

路過, 多口問下, 想讀st. paul boy's 既係咪都係諗住原校升上中學, 唔會報其他學校?

作者: Mrs.Wong 時間: 08-10-30 10:13 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

As far as I can recall, the boy ranked 1st last year in P.1 had average score >95. and boys in top 10 places in class scored > 90.

Correct me if my information is wrong.

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-30 11:19

Hi LittleKidult,

兩睇啦! 現在升中可以同時簡兩間中學, = 多一個chance, 有實力可以博倒間官或津中潻!

TTJTmama

原帖由 LittleKidult 於 08-10-30 09:46 發表
路過, 多口問下, 想讀st. paul boy's 既係咪都係諗住原校升上中學, 唔會報其他學校?

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-30 11:32

有個家長話同一班 P1.學生有個攞 100分, 有個19分, 所以我也半信半疑!兩個分都極難攞!

TTJTmama

原帖由 BMW70 於 08-10-30 08:41 發表
多謝各位媽媽/爸爸的回應，咁應該點預備咁深嘅考試? 一年級都咁深，咁一般學生係唔係都係八十幾分已經係top架啦?!

作者: BMW70 時間: 08-10-30 11:32

咁我又想問吓普通話係唔係好深?

Top 10 係全級定全班?

咁小朋友係唔係好壓力?

作者: LittleKidult 時間: 08-10-30 11:47

我點解咁問呢? 因為聽個親人講, 佢前幾日同個今年升中既小學家長傾開, 個小朋友讀既直資係有中學部既, 家長話想同個小朋友報另一間名校(同名但唔係剩男校果間), 學校方面話唔會寫推薦信比佢, 基本上只有移民先會批推薦信, 另外話學校將呢幾次張d考試測驗卷set到好深, 基本上冇人攞A, 只有部份B, 其餘大部份係C.....
或者揾家長去証實一下.

原帖由 TTJTMaMa 於 08-10-30 11:19 發表
Hi LittleKidult,

兩睇啦! 現在升中可以同時簡兩間中學, = 多一個chance, 有實力可以博倒間官或津中潻!

TTJTmama

作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-10-30 11:59

Yes, the top 30% SPCPS P1 students usually score an average around 90 but the passing mark is still 60. Don't give too much pressure to the kids because a balance school life is more important than high marks.  Boys are more energetic but shy in sitting still to study.  So a balance daily schedule will help them to grow in not only health but also academic strength.

From my experience, scoring high mark is not everything, the school does not ask for just that.  If you trust her words, she wants the development of a whole person.  My boy is now in P6, the school still encourages ECA and P6 students are still engaging in many inter-school events.  Yesterday, I even needed to write a letter to a teacher in giving reason why my kid did not attend one particular session of an ECA, and funny enough, the reason was that he clashed his schedule due to an inter-school match.  And I am fine with that.  This is why St. Paul's is a very good school for my boy, she offers a balance development for him without the pain to battle for good banding.

In saying so, the school does ask for a reasonable academic strength because most of the boys will go to the secondary school. However, the selection criteria does show that the school has strong confident in her students.  The top criteria of going to the secondary session is good conduct and a good pass in P6 as the second criteria.  In my understanding, a good pass is around 70 in average with no fail in major subjects.

I trust St. Louis School also has all the benefits as St. Paul's because Salesians of Don Bosco, who are running the school, is an order having delicated so much in bringing up many fine young men for HK.  I still deeply appreciate my time in her evening school.

[ 本帖最後由 hogwarts 於 08-10-30 12:33 編輯 ]

作者: avislai 時間: 08-10-30 12:12

I think the boys in SSPC who get average over 90 are really very smart. An average kid like my son would not be able to survive in SSPC. However, is the standard of St. Louis or Raimondi College similar? I am afraid that I would choose a wrong school for my boys when every subject is too difficult for him and he'll lose self-confidence (This is the case of my friend's kids). If I choose some other school, I am afraid that the standard is not high enough to cope with the EMI secondary school.

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-30 12:19

PTH - Kindergarten時有根底就唔覺深, 因為要考四聲筆試的.

名次來說不重要, 因為只反影在校內的排位!

壓力? 我就覺得一定要比小朋友自己去感受吓, 這樣才會成長, 做事認真, 有要求, 才有進步!

TTJTmama

原帖由 BMW70 於 08-10-30 11:32 發表
咁我又想問吓普通話係唔係好深?

Top 10 係全級定全班?

咁小朋友係唔係好壓力?

作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-10-30 12:25

Hi LittleKidult,

There are still As from the recent P6 test. The Principal has given good rationales in not giving recomendation letter in a P5/6 briefing, I trust it is the same briefing as mentioned by you.

Yes, students are not encouraged to move to other schools and I trust this is a position, which can be understandable, in the very beginning. Also most of the kids I know do express wishes to go to SPC. Brotherhood is another important side benefit and changing school will jeopardize this benefit.

If a child can score As in SPCPS, of course he can try many good schools even without a recommendation letter. Most of the discussion is worry towards SPC's standard. As most likely, my boy is going to this school in next Sept, I follow the development of the SPC quite closely in the recent years. I am ok with the school especially with the new principal and their preparation for the new NSS.

作者: Bilobi 時間: 08-10-30 12:48

Hi hogwwarts.

Thanks so much for your sharing. My son has atended SPC's second interveiw and we have quite a good impression towards the school. But as SPC doesn't organize any P1 admission talks so we can just hear around for the comments of SPC.

To me, I trust that SPC PS is a very good school at this stage as it's a DSS, having autonomy to choose bright students and plan its curriculum. However, from history, SPC (secondary) may not be that "outstanding" in academic achievement though it has a "brandname".

I get into a dilenma whether or not to enrol (if really offered), as my son is also having a chance for 2nd interview with YW. I like both PS indeed, jsut wonder how well the through- train secondary schools are.

Any ideas? Thanks so much.

原帖由 hogwarts 於 08-10-30 12:25 發表
Hi LittleKidult,

There are still As from the recent P6 test. The Principal has given good rationales in not giving recomendation letter in a P5/6 briefing, I trust it is the same briefing as mentio ...

[ 本帖最後由 Bilobi 於 08-10-30 12:52 編輯 ]

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-30 12:50

我曾經同某名校校長探討過,
當年阿女P. 5 & 6 中文和英文 Test & Exam
都係70幾分(Grade C),
心想原校直升無机會,
向外挑戰也怕落空,
原來份卷深, 有助提高或保持學校質素,
校內成績最高分才是82分,
所以校長話70幾分,
原校中學一定收番,
除非conduct差!

致於呈分時的分數和試卷,
都要交上Education Dept,
佢地再評估試卷的深淺, 作倍數計.
e.g. 75分 x 8 倍 = 600 分
85分 x 6 倍 = 510 分

TTJTmama

原帖由 LittleKidult 於 08-10-30 11:47 發表
我點解咁問呢? 因為聽個親人講, 佢前幾日同個今年升中既小學家長傾開, 個小朋友讀既直資係有中學部既, 家長話想同個小朋友報另一間名校(同名但唔係剩男校果間), 學校方面話唔會寫推薦信比佢, 基本上只有移民先會批推 ...

作者: BMW70 時間: 08-10-30 14:03

YW 係唔係九龍深水埗間英華？我見到有個topic係St. Paul vs YW.

其實St Paul, YW, St. Louis, 或者高主教，你吔會點樣排位?

作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-10-30 14:17

Hi Bilobi,

Both YW and SPC have long history and good "brandname".  I don't know much about YW and my view is bound to be biased.  Even one school might be better than the other, it was the parents' and the child's own effort and "luck" would count more in the final outcome.

In my biased views towards SPC, due to limited understanding of YW, the SPC has the following merits:

1.  The new principal is making good influence to the school's performance, in a few years' time, it might help to make visible improvement.  Dr. Kennard has posted his assembly speeches on web and is a good means to understand more about the SPC.  Here is the link:

http://www.spc.edu.hk/profile/principal.php

2.  The tradition of the SPC is very admirable, e.g. she has taken in vision impaired students for over 40 years.  No other teachings can create an environment to teach acceptance and diversity.  Also be able to be part of 155 years of history will hopefully make the child having a sense of pride and responsibility.  Of course, YW has the same long good tradition as well.

3.  I have mentioned their preparation for the new 3-3-4 system, especially the new Liberal Studies, you can visit their LS PowerPoint for parents' info via the link below and have a judgement of your own;

http://www.spc.edu.hk/academic/ls_info.pdf

4.  SPC does have an academic gap when comparing with the schools such as DBS and SPCC.  However, I am always contented with her academic strenght because according to the latest report from their web, if the child is in the top 50%, he will be fine.

5.  SPC does not produce 10 As students and one of the reasons is that the school does not encourage the students to take 10 subjects.  I find this a good policy as schooling shall not be just limited to As.

Finally, if I was in your position, I would make my choice due to other criteria such as travelling time or some minor impressions from all these visits.

Personally, I am not with Ms. Lam's style, I might get a lot of disapproved responses from YW's parents, as modesty is a rare but real virtue for children.

Please forgive my bias views.

[ 本帖最後由 hogwarts 於 08-10-30 14:58 編輯 ]

作者: Bilobi 時間: 08-10-30 18:10

Hi hogwarts,

Thanks so much for your precious sharing. I don't think your comments are biased. Instead, they look fair, objective and reasonable.

Agree that both YW & SPC are good schools though most people rank DBS & SPCC higher. It deosn't mean they are not good schools; esp when these have become DSS while every student is screened out of keen competition.

Hooooo, same to you, I find myself not Principal Lam's fans. Having said that, I believe both YW & SPC will continue to be even more successful.

By the way, may I know if it's confirmed that SPCPS will move to the new campus in 2010? The existing campus looks quite old...

thanks again! Your views are very important points of reference to me!

原帖由 hogwarts 於 08-10-30 14:17 發表
Hi Bilobi,

Both YW and SPC have long history and good "brandname". I don't know much about YW and my view is bound to be biased. Even one school might be better than the other, it was the parents' ...

作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-10-30 18:35

Hi Bilobi,

Yes, they are going to move but should be in 2011.

作者: 0809 時間: 08-10-30 23:24

請問St.Paul Boy 是否DSS, 是否收了要give up 大抽獎?

原帖由 hogwarts 於 08-10-30 18:35 發表
Hi Bilobi,

Yes, they are going to move but should be in 2011.

作者: andrewpapa 時間: 08-10-30 23:41

hi TTJTmama

don't worry about your son la.

only term test not exam la.

again, still young and also good that you can use the test paper to train him more

作者: TTJTMaMa 時間: 08-10-31 09:26

Hi andrewpapa,

Thanks for your advise and sharing.

Yes, this is a first term test but the exam is coming soon!

Cheers,
TTJTmama

原帖由 andrewpapa 於 08-10-30 23:41 發表
hi TTJTmama

don't worry about your son la.

only term test not exam la.

again, still young and also good that you can use the test paper to train him more

作者: BMW70 時間: 08-10-31 12:12

咁test同exam有無分別? 我聽聞 St. Paul 一年兩個測驗兩個考試, 咁測驗分數係唔係無咁緊要? 例如測驗佔40%考試就60%?

平日除咗測驗考試仲有無小測?

謝謝各位寶貴的資料。

作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-10-31 14:29

原帖由 BMW70 於 08-10-31 12:12 發表
咁test同exam有無分別? 我聽聞 St. Paul 一年兩個測驗兩個考試, 咁測驗分數係唔係無咁緊要? 例如測驗佔40%考試就60%?

平日除咗測驗考試仲有無小測?

謝謝各位寶貴的資料。 ...

BMW70
For SPCPS, there is actually no difference between test & exam. There are 2 tests & 2 exams in an academic yr. Each counts for 25%. In between tests/exams, we do have composition, listening & oral assessments. So pretty busy schedule. But once you have adapted to the mode, then things will go more smoothly.

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