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作者: popolung    時間: 09-4-29 14:31     標題: ESF Higher Education Destinations 2008

This is not something very new, posted on ESF website since Feb, just provided here as reference only:

Higher Education Destinations 2008

HE Destinations by Institution

http://www.esf.edu.hk/FileManager/EN/Content_1449/table_3_-_he_destinations_by_institutions[1].pdf

HE Destinations by Country

http://www.esf.edu.hk/FileManager/EN/Content_1449/table_1_-_he_destinations_by_country[1].pdf

HE Destinations by Category of Course

http://www.esf.edu.hk/FileManager/EN/Content_1449/table_2_-_he_destinations_by_category_of_course[1].pdf

If you can't go to any link just try the original post on ESF:

http://www.esf.edu.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=1431&langNo=1

[ 本帖最後由 popolung 於 09-4-29 14:40 編輯 ]
作者: thankful    時間: 09-4-29 14:57

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作者: wisekid2007    時間: 09-4-29 16:15

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原帖由 thankful 於 09-4-29 14:57 發表
Very informative.  Thanks!


Hope you find this information useful.
作者: mow-mow    時間: 09-4-29 17:53

I think your disappointment stems from the fact that your preferred universities are heavily American based.
Seeing that most ESF students aim for UK universities, the percentage of those getting into Ivy League Universities bound to be low.
The only UK universities you have included are Oxford & Cambridge, and you have ignored Imperial College, University College London, King's College London University of Edinburgh, and University of Manchester, all of which rank within the top 30 universities in the world & can compete on equal footing with all of the American Universities you have mentioned.
All in all, this is not at all a bad list.
For top university ranking, see www.topuniversities.com/university_rankings/results/2008/overall_rankings/top_100_universities/

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-4-29 16:15 發表
A little bit disappointed on the final university entry of 08/09.

The percentages of entry to some of the preferred universities are not so attractive.


University of Cambridge, UK              6, 1 ...

[ 本帖最後由 mow-mow 於 09-4-29 18:07 編輯 ]
作者: 阿胡    時間: 09-4-29 19:22

這些大學排名是當不得真的.

University of MICHIGAN排18, 港大排26, 而DARTMOUTH College排54, 真是覺得有辱智商.
作者: lulusing    時間: 09-4-29 23:41

Any breakdown? i.e. the university destinations of graduates from SC, KGV, IS, SI and WI? Thanks!
作者: thankful    時間: 09-4-30 00:26

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作者: popolung    時間: 09-4-30 01:30

原帖由 thankful 於 09-4-30 00:26 發表
popolung,

Have you got the results of the previous years?  I believe one single year's result is not as revealing as the general trend.  Are the results getting better or worse over the last couple o ...


sorry I checked ESF website and Google and can't find similar info....
作者: wisekid2007    時間: 09-4-30 09:16

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作者: 田心    時間: 09-4-30 11:14

Do you know how they rank those universities?  From what I know is the basis for valuation change from time to time.  Sometime is base of graduated students' start up salary, sometime base on University's facilities, etc.  Therefore, before you look at the ranking, you have to check on how they do the valuation for the year.
I believe for most of the parents in here know which one is their dream University, so I  think this kind of ranking is for reference only and can't totally rely on it.

原帖由 thankful 於 09-4-30 00:42 發表
阿胡

I notice that you know a lot about overseas universities.  I appreciate that there may not be any list that accurately reflects the ranking.  Some may be biased whilst others may simply be wrong ...

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作者: JojoB    時間: 09-4-30 11:50

Agreed!

原帖由 田心 於 09-4-30 11:14 發表
Do you know how they rank those universities?  From what I know is the basis for valuation change from time to time.  Sometime is base of graduated students' start up salary, sometime base on Universi ...

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作者: matthewdad    時間: 09-4-30 19:34

I suggested to classfied by courses/subjects instead of general classification.
原帖由 thankful 於 09-4-30 12:25 發表
I see. Thanks!  But it is just a bit too complicated for me.  Let me put it this way.  Can we seperate the US universities into first tier and second tier in the way wisekid2007 did with the UK univer ...

作者: wisekid2007    時間: 09-4-30 21:06

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作者: matthewdad    時間: 09-5-2 21:15

UK system is quite different from US system. The first degree for US system is general but not for UK system. e.g. engineering, medicine, law, dentist, pharmarcy.
e.g. If one interested on pharmacy or computer enigneering, there are no suitable course in Oxbridge.

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-4-30 21:06 發表
At this early stage, there is no need to consider the ranking of a certain curriculum among universities as we don't know which curriculum that our kid will choose when they grow up.

Even at the tim ...

作者: wisekid2007    時間: 09-5-3 22:10

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作者: matthewdad    時間: 09-5-4 17:36

<The point of discussion is not the difference of the UK and US first degree although I don't think there is really a big difference.>
Coment:your thinking is deviated from the actual which are clearly stated in my previous response.
< From my point of view, the first degree is just so simple>
Comment:Are you sure 1st degree is so simple? I know it is really tough particularly on but no limited to medicine, dentist, architecture, law and accounting courses ...)

Can I say you are not interested on the content and just like brand.
原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-5-3 22:10 發表
The point of discussion is not the difference of the UK and US first degree although I don't think there is really a big difference. From my point of view, the first degree is just so simple and gener ...

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