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作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-6 18:44 標題: 英語環境
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作者: TingTing55 時間: 09-7-6 20:09
thank for sharing
作者: wingyeunglilo 時間: 09-7-6 22:23
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 09-7-6 18:44 發表 
我見好多媽咪都想搵一間英語環境好的學校俾子女，其實日常生活中，最有效就係喺屋企製造英語環境，我個人覺得，講單字唔係英語環境，開套disney教材俾佢睇都唔係英語環境，真正的英語環境，係同佢以全句的英文黎溝通，例如你叫佢執玩 ...
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-6 22:31
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作者: G-Ma 時間: 09-7-6 23:18
屋企營造英語環境當然好, 不過學校培訓亦好重要, 小朋友係學校時間多過屋企, 如果學校本身英語環境好好, 同學之間都可以以英語溝通, 咁會更加事半功倍.
現時坊間有些直資英小係可以提供到咁既英語環境.
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-6 23:55
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作者: smartcar 時間: 09-7-7 00:42
yes..start simple English first..and sooner or later, they will be more confortable to this language..and dare to make mistake.
作者: parentslove 時間: 09-7-7 00:48
My experience is:
1. Disneyland Chanel in now TV only Cartoon.
2. DVD movies like "Sound of Music" even "Mama Mia".
3. Maid (speaking English only).
4. English News (Pearl Channel).
5. All English reading books in the living room. (Open Book Shelf, easy to get.)
作者: sheepiedad 時間: 09-7-7 02:09
Yes, disney channel. If my boy wants to watch his favorite program, he can only choose between English and Mandarin. He chooses English most of the time 
原帖由 parentslove 於 09-7-7 00:48 發表
My experience is:
1. Disneyland Chanel in now TV only Cartoon.
2. DVD movies like "Sound of Music" even "Mama Mia".
3. Maid (speaking English only).
4. English News (Pearl Channel).
5. All English rea ...
作者: wingyeunglilo 時間: 09-7-7 10:03
TKS!我已經看到,真的獲益良多........
作者: charlottechan 時間: 09-7-7 12:40
thanks a lot for your sharing. I think creating an English environment is important yet difficult.
We may have books or DVDs, all are one way communication means. Relying too much on my Cantonese English or maid's Philipinnes English did not improve my kid's accent neither.
As we are not native speaker, we have no choice but to send them to English classes.
The scenario is like sending children to drawing class. We can draw but we are not 'expert' in this field.
作者: silvia_ng 時間: 09-7-7 14:10
原帖由 charlottechan 於 09-7-7 12:40 發表
thanks a lot for your sharing. I think creating an English environment is important yet difficult.
We may have books or DVDs, all are one way communication means. Relying too much on my Cantonese ...
不要因為自己的口音 / 菲律賓人口音而認為小朋友不該學。敢問什麼口音是最標準? 只得英國人嗎? 還是美國? 澳洲? 意大利? 歐洲?
現在只要環境給他們說英語就好了...不要打壓他們說得不好聽 / 有口音。當長大後, 他發覺不同國家的人有不同的口音, 自己喜愛那種, 便自然往哪邊調。
我們也是只看英文的playhouse disney及chinese news. 兩兄妹都可以拼音讀新英文字, 有時兩個自己玩都只用英文。當然, 英文reading亦都非常重要啦。
作者: Elinor_Mama 時間: 09-7-7 15:06
Agree!
(1) "Sound of Music" is really great. My daughter loves it! She watched the second disc. The first one was broken.
(2) Disney Chanel is good but I strongly suggest "CBeeBies" by BBC. 447 in NowTV.
(3) Story Time - let the child choose the favourite book each time
原帖由 parentslove 於 09-7-7 00:48 發表
My experience is:
1. Disneyland Chanel in now TV only Cartoon.
2. DVD movies like "Sound of Music" even "Mama Mia".
3. Maid (speaking English only).
4. English News (Pearl Channel).
5. All English rea ...
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-7 15:25
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作者: G-Ma 時間: 09-7-7 23:58
開始係無需要太著緊grammar, 最緊要培養小朋友敢講, 敢寫, 同埋唔抗拒用英文, 等小朋友慢慢長大就會調節內容.
作者: 仔仔錫錫你 時間: 09-7-8 12:54
口音真的不用太care!!! 以前讀u, 個教授話無論你口音點純正都好, 都會有人話你唔準. 因為口音係跟當地文化&種族, 你係英國鬼, 美國鬼會話你唔準; 你係美國鬼, 加拿大鬼會話你唔準; 你係加拿大鬼會, 澳洲鬼會話你唔準.
教授話最好的英文係無論你點講對方都可以聽得明&理解到, 自己識d深字但對方唔明, 唔係人地差, 係自己唔懂得用更合適字眼去表達
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作者: bowling68 時間: 09-7-19 01:02
My experience is:
1. English Time when kid was 2 - 4/5
2. Open Book Shelf in the living room
3. Go to Public Library every week
( stay at least 2 hours)
4. Borrow books from library with
English/Chinese words +
English/Mandarin CD
** you may have the latest books,
but cannot have so many books that
be founded in library
5. Kumon English when kid over 4/5.
作者: kikiboy 時間: 09-7-20 09:33
屋企沒有英語環境, 睇怕都好難令小朋友學好英文.
有冇父母唔識英文或者英文唔叻, 子女英文都學得幾好架?
作者: G-Ma 時間: 09-7-21 12:10
有, 我朋友屋企住屋村, 父母係街市賣菜, 一d都唔識英文, 中文都唔識幾多, 但佢宜家係一位律師, 英文十分之好.
當然個人既性格都係一個關鍵, 不過我覺得唔好因為父母自己唔識英文就扼殺左小朋友學英文既機會, 入到一間好既英文小學, 佢地一樣係有機會學得好英文.
作者: kachunma 時間: 09-7-21 12:58
我姪仔,父母小学畢業,盲字都唔識多個,英文就更加唔掂,英語環境?無可能有,又無人教到佢,但個仔讀書就very good, 英文會考全A,A-Level又全A,現在是一位醫生了,仲讀埋專科,我覺得小朋友讀書好睇個人性格的,環境只是一個附助。
原帖由 G-Ma 於 09-7-21 12:10 發表
有, 我朋友屋企住屋村, 父母係街市賣菜, 一d都唔識英文, 中文都唔識幾多, 但佢宜家係一位律師, 英文十分之好.
當然個人既性格都係一個關鍵, 不過我覺得唔好因為父母自己唔識英文就扼殺左小朋友學英文既機會, 入到一 ...
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-21 14:45
Parlez-vous français? 
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-21 15:42
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作者: Sherryko9 時間: 09-7-21 16:58
絕對贊成!
唔好把教育子女的責任全賴晒落學校/補習社/物物教材/賓賓上,父母身教最重要.
唔好成日只1.2個英文單字把上口,請全句上.得閒時拿起本英文書/噤吓英文台睇睇,又或者噤去普通話台都得!
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 09-7-6 18:44 發表
我見好多媽咪都想搵一間英語環境好的學校俾子女，其實日常生活中，最有效就係喺屋企製造英語環境，我個人覺得，講單字唔係英語環境，開套disney教材俾佢睇都唔係英語環境，真正的英語環境，係同佢以全句的英文黎溝通，例如你叫佢執玩 ...
作者: wtma 時間: 09-7-21 17:21
英文只是學習的輔助, 唔好變成好似學好英文一切就會無問題!
我有個親戚, 小朋友在加拿大出生, 後來回香港讀小學, 父母都會同佢地講英文, 最後中學會考其他科唔知, 連英文都只是得D! 所以環境并非最重要的! 最重要係個小朋友興趣和資質在哪方面, 再向個方面培養.
作者: boying 時間: 09-7-21 17:22
原帖由 flostangraphy 於 09-7-21 14:45 發表
Parlez-vous français?
Bonjour,
Le français est difficile à apprendre.
J'ai une fille.Elle veux étudier le français en "St Clare's Primary School".Tout le monde est d'accord, le français est plus difficile que l'anglais/le chinois.
作者: WYmom 時間: 09-7-21 17:37
原帖由 wtma 於 09-7-21 17:21 發表
英文只是學習的輔助, 唔好變成好似學好英文一切就會無問題!
我有個親戚, 小朋友在加拿大出生, 後來回香港讀小學, 父母都會同佢地講英文, 最後中學會考其他科唔知, 連英文都只是得D! 所以環境并非最重要的! 最重要 ...
Are the parents local Chinese? If the kid and parents are all Chinese, I don't think that speaking to the kid in English will help the kid a lot. As the kid studied in HK local schools since primary, there won't be any difference where s/he was born.
In HK, it is easier for kids to learn Chinese than in Canada as HK provides a "Chinese" living environment. Vice Versa, it will be easier for kids to learn English in English-speaking countries because of the "English" environment.
Kids learn languages very naturally if they are immersed in the native language environment.
This is just basic logic.
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作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-21 18:13
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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-22 12:48
bonjour bonjour!!
mais donc vous parlez francais quand meme!!
i agree that the french may a bit more difficult than english. however, i'm sure it's a lot easier than the chinese!
example, you can write in french and i know rarely any french who can speak very good mandarin still can't write any chinese!!
to be honest, our elder son had difficulty expressing himself when he was younger. he was a bit late compare to other children who speak one language or even bilingual at home...
he was almost 3 and 1/2 years old when he was really able speaking in french, english and cantonese with contents...
as both me and my wife work full time. we are not really the good sample parents who spend plenty of time with our kids... 
my wife therefore has 2 methods to make them speak is organize play day for our children, inviting their friends come to our home or go to their home to play. that way, in fact they play with friends and speak in french, english and chinese constantly.
story time before bed, we read them story every night before bed since they are 2 and 1/2. mostly my wife, french and english story books, me sometime, mainly chinese when i'm back home early. if both of us get home late, the nanny will read them english. most of time we will make the story interactive by asking them question between pages and what do they think about it.
our elder son is 5 now, so far he can manage to speak french, english and cantonese ok. second son is almost 3, still late in expression of complete sentence compare to other kids, but as second kid does, he is more advance in vocabulary than his brother at that age. he almost knows everything he knew x3! eg.: apple, la pomme, 蘋果 / firemen, pompier, 消防員 
i really think they learn better during play time. my 2 cents.
原帖由 boying 於 21/7/2009 17:22 發表
Bonjour,
Le français est difficile à apprendre.
J'ai une fille.Elle veux étudier le français en "St Clare's Primary School".Tout le monde est d'accord, le français est plus difficile que l'angla ...
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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-22 13:03
chère emilythestrange,
mais c'est très bien!!!
permettez-moi!
"J'ai appris le français quand j'été à l'université, mais j'ai presque tout oublié déjà!
Souhaitons tous les meilleurs à votre fille!"
ps: i'm not a french teacher, just want to share multi-lingual kid experience.
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 21/7/2009 18:13 發表
J'ai appris le français à l'université, mais j'ai presque tout oublier dès maintenant!
Tous les meilleurs pour votre fille!
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作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-22 14:46
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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-22 16:03
dear emily,
i'm sure you have better level of english and chinese than me!!! and if your child is learning french at school... you will also make progress along side with her!!!! he he he 
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 22/7/2009 14:46 發表
Thanks for your sharing!
As I said, I forget almost everything learnt from my French teacher now, hahahaha!
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-22 17:24
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作者: elizatyy 時間: 09-7-23 00:28
I prefer EMI school (from KG). My son "claims" himself can speak both English and Cantonese although he speaks English sounds like speaking French... Anyway, I always try to speak simple English with him. Also, try singing songs in different languages (e.g English, Mandarin...etc).
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-23 09:48
dear elisatyy,
ha ha ha!!! your son is very smart!!!
he knows already that a lot of girls trace after the boy who speaks english with a french accent in the world!!!
原帖由 elizatyy 於 23/7/2009 00:28 發表
I prefer EMI school (from KG). My son "claims" himself can speak both English and Cantonese although he speaks English sounds like speaking French... Anyway, I always try to speak simple English with ...
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-23 12:06
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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-23 13:35
this is a good trick!!!!
too bad, i do think i should have learnt more languages before married my french girlfriend.... 
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 23/7/2009 12:06 發表
Another trick is, let the kids make friends with foreigners! Guess you've heard of the phenomenon that the best way to learn a foreign language is to find a girlfriend / boyfriend from that country! ...
作者: emilythestrange 時間: 09-7-23 14:26
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作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-7-23 14:40
it's pity that the children don't speak swedish and chinese...
by the way, we don't speak mandarin at home, but they are learning at school .
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 09-7-23 14:26 發表
haha you got me!!!!
well actually my boss is a Swedish and his wife is a Japanese, when their kids were small, they spoke Japanese better than English because it was mom taking care of them everyday. ...
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作者: elizatyy 時間: 09-7-23 22:37
原帖由 emilythestrange 於 09-7-23 12:06 發表
Another trick is, let the kids make friends with foreigners! Guess you've heard of the phenomenon that the best way to learn a foreign language is to find a girlfriend / boyfriend from that country! ...
Good, agree. 
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-8-28 15:10
hi elizatyy,
your boy is at diocesan?!
原帖由 elizatyy 於 23/7/2009 22:37 發表
Good, agree. :-)
作者: elizatyy 時間: 09-8-28 23:10
原帖由 flostangraphy 於 09-8-28 15:10 發表
hi elizatyy,
your boy is at diocesan?!
You mean DBSPD? No, he is still a KG student. DBSPD is definitely a dream school for most of the parents. However, I'm afraid my son (and myself) is not smart enough to be accepted by this school. Of course, we will try... 
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-8-30 13:39
yes, diocesan boy school
so do we, we will try as well. however, we don't want to push too hard our son to get in neither. my boy is going to K3 this year. let's see!
how about yours?!
原帖由 elizatyy 於 28/8/2009 23:10 發表
You mean DBSPD? No, he is still a KG student. DBSPD is definitely a dream school for most of the parents. However, I'm afraid my son (and myself) is not smart enough to be accepted by this school ...
作者: elizatyy 時間: 09-8-30 16:08
My son is in K1 this year. Please share your experiences with me once your interviews have been done... Good luck!
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-8-30 21:41
ok!
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-9-20 23:03
we actually have a younger son in K1 this year as well...
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原帖由 elizatyy 於 30/8/2009 16:08 發表
My son is in K1 this year. Please share your experiences with me once your interviews have been done... Good luck!
作者: kcm 時間: 09-9-21 09:09
我同意！如果父母英文唔好，一定比唔到好的英語環境，但個小朋友ｄ英文唔一定唔好，只係條路冇人行得咁快．
原帖由 kachunma 於 09-7-21 12:58 發表
我姪仔,父母小学畢業,盲字都唔識多個,英文就更加唔掂,英語環境?無可能有,又無人教到佢,但個仔讀書就very good, 英文會考全A,A-Level又全A,現在是一位醫生了,仲讀埋專科,我覺得小朋友讀書好睇個人性格的,環境只是一個 ...
作者: flostangraphy 時間: 09-9-22 13:58
我都同意！因為如果本身家長都講三,四種語言, 小朋友好自然覺得兩,三種語言係easy job啦!
原帖由 kcm 於 21/9/2009 09:09 發表
我同意！如果父母英文唔好，一定比唔到好的英語環境，但個小朋友ｄ英文唔一定唔好，只係條路冇人行得咁快．
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