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作者: my1stbaby 時間: 10-3-8 17:42 標題: 比較蘇淅及維多利亞幼稚園
蘇淅幼稚園的本地課程及維多利亞的兩文三語可否告訴我如何取捨及兩者優劣分別
作者: ic07 時間: 10-3-15 10:41 標題: 回覆 1# my1stbaby 的文章
i'm facing the same problem. i think both are good schools. but i'll choose 蘇淅 because i want my child's discipline to be good.
other parents, please give your opinion. thanks a lot!!!
作者: pauljr 時間: 10-3-15 13:49
唔知你又報嘅?
原帖由 my1stbaby 於 10-3-8 17:42 發表 
蘇淅幼稚園的本地課程及維多利亞的兩文三語可否告訴我如何取捨及兩者優劣分別
作者: Sorb 時間: 10-3-15 14:16
I have the same dilemma 2 years ago, and I have chosen 蘇淅.
If you target a KG with very good mandarine, and with some balance of English at the same time, go to 蘇淅
. If you target a school with good English, go to 維多利亞.
If you want to enjoy the Pre-primary Education voucher, choose 蘇淅 and save the $$$ for other after school activities.
If you want your kid to have happy KG life, both KG are happy KG without too much homework nor test.
原帖由 pauljr 於 10-3-15 13:49 發表
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作者: Sorb 時間: 10-3-15 14:21
Another reason for me choosing 蘇淅 is because it's campus is much much better than Victoria's campus in Foretress Hill. My kid has attended the Victoria playgroup before entering PN, so, I have the opportunity to use most of its facilities. To me, too crowded activity area for kids.
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-15 14:16 發表
I have the same dilemma 2 years ago, and I have chosen 蘇淅.
If you target a KG with very good mandarine, and with some balance of English at the same time, go to 蘇淅http://das.baby-kingdom.com/ww ...
作者: monkey05 時間: 10-3-15 14:34
但蘇淅的國際部同本地班幾大唔同. 本地班上英文堂的時間會好短, 國語佔長時間, 倒轉, 國際部就國語堂時間好短, 英文佔長時間. 蘇淅校舍比維紀好好多.
作者: 頂級美人 時間: 10-3-17 12:54
two years ago, i gave up Victoria and chose KCS (local stream)....I joined Victoria playgroup but it wasnt very good actually....in terms of teahers' quality, campus, $, KCS (local stream) is much better...now my son is in K1 (after pre-nursery in KCS)
作者: share123 時間: 10-3-17 13:07
原帖由 頂級美人 於 10-3-17 12:54 發表
two years ago, i gave up Victoria and chose KCS (local stream)....I joined Victoria playgroup but it wasnt very good actually....in terms of teahers' quality, campus, $, KCS (local stream) is much bet ...
維記d playgroup同正規課程唔同,擺明系賺錢,尤其係賺d想入維記讀書既人d錢,所以,唔應該用playgroup來理論維記既正規課程
作者: esther.cy 時間: 10-3-17 13:50
my1stbaby,
I am in the same situation as you last year. Remember I got advice from many parents in baby kingdom. I have finally chosen Victoria (PN).
I can say I am happy with Victoria until now. I can't really compared Victoria and KCS because I have not yet studied there (though my husband was an old boy of KCS).
What I can say is, Victoria kids are very active and presentable in both English & Chinese. Kids are trained to present even when there since there were from PN class. Not too many homework but enjoy happy school life.
Big drawback is, very expensive!
Agreed with most of the parents here that it really depends what you NEED and what you want your kids to be. No perfect choice...
Hope it helps.
作者: Sorb 時間: 10-3-18 12:12
Agree that 維記d playgroup同正規課程唔同, 擺明系賺錢,尤其係賺d想入維記讀書既人d錢. I am one of those stupid parents actually, and as a result of the playgroup observation, I rejected the 正規課程 offer of 維記 after one-year investment in playgroup.
To me, there are something that one can compare after joining the playgroup, other than the hardware, such as the campus environment, we can also compare the quality of the teachers, those teachers teaching playgroup are exactly the teachers of the 正規課程.
原帖由 share123 於 10-3-17 13:07 發表
維記d playgroup同正規課程唔同,擺明系賺錢,尤其係賺d想入維記讀書既人d錢,所以,唔應該用playgroup來理論維記既正規課程
作者: share123 時間: 10-3-18 15:08
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-18 12:12 發表
Agree that 維記d playgroup同正規課程唔同, 擺明系賺錢,尤其係賺d想入維記讀書既人d錢. I am one of those stupid parents actually, and as a result of the playgroup observation, I rejected the 正規課程 offe ...
D老師我就無親眼觀察過,但維記d評估報告特別簡單,只有兩項,一個是W,另一個好像是L. 總之,拿著成績表好難分出小朋友既高低
作者: 頂級美人 時間: 10-3-18 18:38
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-18 12:12 發表
Agree that 維記d playgroup同正規課程唔同, 擺明系賺錢,尤其係賺d想入維記讀書既人d錢. I am one of those stupid parents actually, and as a result of the playgroup observation, I rejected the 正規課程 offe ...
Totally agree. Exactly what was in my mind. Teachers the same, campus the same. But to be fair to Victoria, it has expensive and fancy imported toys, which KCS does not have. For me, I'd rather save up the several thousand dollars and join many many English classes.
作者: wootaitai 時間: 10-3-18 22:49
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作者: esther.cy 時間: 10-3-19 09:17
But I am happy with only W & L. Since Victoria is a school that NOT focusing on your RESULT (求學不是求分數), thus they are happy as long as your kid meets the normal standard of that age group.
原帖由 share123 於 10-3-18 15:08 發表
D老師我就無親眼觀察過,但維記d評估報告特別簡單,只有兩項,一個是W,另一個好像是L. 總之,拿著成績表好難分出小朋友既高低
作者: esther.cy 時間: 10-3-19 09:26
As for the $$ issue, since Victoria is profit making without gov't subsidy, thus their charge will be much expensive.
However, one more reason which their school fee is high because they have 3 teachers, including 1 English teacher, speaking to your kid in Cantonese & English for 3 hours in small group (6-7 kids). Experience from many parents that you don't need to pay extra for English class at learning centre and many of them save $ from there.
原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-3-18 22:49 發表
playgroup was bad but I have to say the normal classes was much better
作者: Sorb 時間: 10-3-19 09:43
I fully trust the normal classes are better. Victoria charges such a high fee, it must have its value. I trust the current Victoria parents are all smart, they won't stay there if Victoria is not giving them the value for the money. But what I don't understand is: If Victoria has used playgroup as a tool to attract parents to their normal class, why don't they operate it with better quality. You know what, many parents that I know in the playgroup wanted to write the compliant letter to the principal........though they all stayed until the PN result was announced : ) It is a interesting phenomenum.
I don't know what I will comment if I have chosen Victoria normal class. But my own comment about KCS is: It gives me much much more than the $660 school fee I have paid per month.
原帖由 esther.cy 於 10-3-19 09:26 發表
As for the $$ issue, since Victoria is profit making without gov't subsidy, thus their charge will be much expensive.
However, one more reason which their school fee is high because they have 3 teach ...
作者: granddelsol 時間: 10-3-19 15:12
my son is studying at Victoria PN, although school fee is high but when you look at what the school providing, it's really worth! Kids are happy and teachers with heart to teach!
作者: GIPW 時間: 10-3-19 22:59
Same case for me a few years ago and I have choosen KCS. I want the kids to learn how to behave and be disciplined. But they all enjoyed the school so much.
作者: ranicanice 時間: 10-3-20 17:09
原帖由 share123 於 10-3-18 15:08 發表
D老師我就無親眼觀察過,但維記d評估報告特別簡單,只有兩項,一個是W,另一個好像是L. 總之,拿著成績表好難分出小朋友既高低
In response to share 123:
I agree with you. There might be some problems with their children assessment report. They only use "W" and "L" to differentiate childrens' abilities and intelligence which is too simple and unfair. This is because different children would grow at different speed.
The point is children are unique individuals. The assessment mode must be comprehensive. More written comments plus a 5-rate assessment (1-5) should be included in the report.
You know, the way how the school assesses children could truly reflect their education philosophy.
In spite of this, their teachers are not too bad. And their activities are interesting. The design of their school and the materials used (toys & books) are up to the standard.
作者: esther.cy 時間: 10-3-23 14:24
I also heard that Victoria playgroup is not really good. However, i can't give further comment coz I have never joined it.
For Victoria playgroup, don't know why even parents keep complaning about the quality, still there are long queue for the playgroup since it is one of the channel to Victoria PN. Since they don't really worry about PN / K1 application number, thus they have no initative to improve their playgroup.
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-19 09:43 發表
I fully trust the normal classes are better. Victoria charges such a high fee, it must have its value. I trust the current Victoria parents are all smart, they won't stay there if Victoria is not gi ...
作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-3-23 16:17
原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-3-18 22:49 發表
playgroup was bad but I have to say the normal classes was much better
Hi Wootaitai, may I know what was wrong with the Playgroup? My kids go to Victoria's PG and enjoyed it very much. I would say that they learn most of their songs from Victoria and they like to talk about their PG teachers. They also attend a Montessori school and I would say they are less fond of it though they learn a lot of life skills.
In the Montessori school, the report is more details but rating is also quite simple - W= work in progress, I = Improved and M = mastered.
The only thing I don't like about Victoria is their reports being too simple (I'm ok with W and L) and they usually come VERY VERY late. I didn't get the Sept report until early 2010! Also their notice for school activities usually come very very late (sports day on Sat but only notified on Thurs)!
As I don't spend much time in PG with the kids I am curious to know the problems with PG.
Thanks!
作者: pingu_k 時間: 10-4-3 01:39
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-15 14:16 發表
I have the same dilemma 2 years ago, and I have chosen 蘇淅.
If you target a KG with very good mandarine, and with some balance of English at the same time, go to 蘇淅http://das.baby-kingdom.com/ww ...
"If you target a KG with very good mandarine, and with some balance of English at the same time, go to 蘇淅. If you target a school with good English, go to 維多利亞."
-->>其實我仔仔都有康怡間維記既offer,不過因為我怕佢太free,所以都吾打算要!但睇到你呢句,我有點擔心添,因為我想仔仔英文都好,咁蘇浙係咪吾夠英文training呢?要出面再補?
作者: HAPPIMAMA 時間: 10-4-6 01:25 標題: 回覆 1# pingu_k 的文章
I was so unhappy because my daughter
failed to enter the Victoria PN class,
eventhough she joined the playgroup.
Not only me, some of parents are same case as me. So, the interview is
very important. Don't have a wrong
mind that playgroup is a chanel to enter it. If you really want to enter Victoria, pls aware it.
作者: wootaitai 時間: 10-4-6 22:35
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作者: Sorb 時間: 10-4-7 00:01
Pingu_k, it is difficult to have a 針 that is 兩頭利, you have to make a choice. You imagin it yourself, for Victoria, they will have a NET full time throughout the 3-hours class (if I have not mistaken), but for KCS, it only have a NET for 45 minutes each day with the rest 2 hours 15 minutes all in Mandarine. As one of the mums has commented earlier, this is the main reason why Victoria is $4,000 more expensive than KCS loh.
作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-4-7 12:54
原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-4-6 22:35 發表
HI
I think its just not very age appropriate. The routine is quite similar to a condensed PN which is not very appropriate when it involves an adult and the time span for each activity is quite short ...
Wootaitai, based on your comments, Vic PG doesn't sound very good then. I guess this might be teacher/ campus specific? I agree the kids tend to rush from 1 spot to the next but I do feel that there are some good teacher-bb interactions because the girls won't stop talking about their teachers in PG. Oh well, I think we'll probably stop their PG soon before our summer holiday. :)
作者: wootaitai 時間: 10-4-7 14:31
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作者: meipo28 時間: 10-4-7 21:35
My son is studying at Victoria PN class. He is a shy/sensitive boy and very clingy to the school teachers. I am so glad that both the Eng and Cantonese teachers are very patient and they spend a lot of time with my kid. Even though he is not active at class, he learns quite a lot and can communicate in simple English (cantonese is our mother tongue).
The assessment report is simple but I have frequent communications with the teachers and therefore I am ok with it.
In all, I am very satisfied with Victoria.
作者: twinsmummy 時間: 10-4-8 11:40
原帖由 wootaitai 於 10-4-7 14:31 發表
maybe I attended Saturday only class and my kids did not adapt fully to the routine....
I think it really depends on the teacher and his/her experience. I've been to other pgs - regular teacher was very good but any substitute temp teacher was terrible (kids were out of control)....heee heee
作者: pingu_k 時間: 10-4-9 00:21
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-4-7 00:01 發表
Pingu_k, it is difficult to have a 針 that is 兩頭利, you have to make a choice. You imagin it yourself, for Victoria, they will have a NET full time throughout the 3-hours class (if I have not mista ...
tks! in fact, "a NET for 45 mins" seems quite gd already when compared to general KGs (those which are not specially famous in putting emphasis on English), right?
作者: pingu_k 時間: 10-4-9 01:29
Sorb,
另想請問,蘇浙有無教phonics?老師又如何?有愛心嗎?(因為interview day見到有d老師年紀頗大及cool)
蘇浙K1開始係咪有分local stream & int'l stream?如果將來係讀本地傳統小學,係咪都係local stream較合適?tks!
作者: beratse 時間: 10-4-9 02:10
Dear meipo28,
After reading your comments about Victoria, I feel less worry about studying in Victoria, coz my son is going to study in Victoria PN this year. Btw, would you still let your son continue to study in Victoria K1-3?
原帖由 meipo28 於 10-4-7 21:35 發表
My son is studying at Victoria PN class. He is a shy/sensitive boy and very clingy to the school teachers. I am so glad that both the Eng and Cantonese teachers are very patient and they spend a lot ...
作者: beratse 時間: 10-4-9 02:35
Dear pingu_k,
I agree that 針無兩頭利, I prefer Victoria because of their English Education. My colleague has 2 sons. Her elder son studied in Victoria for K1 and then changed to another KG. Her younger son studied in Victoria from K1-3. She told me that her younger son's English is much better than the elder son. When her younger son learn some new English words (now in primary), he will use the phonic skills that he learnt from Vic KG to read the new words, but her elder son cannot do this and he will only force himself to memorize it! My colleague said she did not pay extra on Eng learning classes for her younger son. So I think Victoria has its value in terms of the language.
原帖由 pingu_k 於 10-4-9 00:21 發表
tks! in fact, "a NET for 45 mins" seems quite gd already when compared to general KGs (those which are not specially famous in putting emphasis on English), right?
作者: ashleymommy 時間: 10-4-9 03:07 標題: 回覆 1# beratse 的文章
I like Victoria very much.
My son was shy and dared not to speak in front of others before. After studying in Victoria for around half year, he is opened. The teachers are kind. They always encourage my son. Therefore, he likes going to school. Besides, his Eng improves a lot. He can read simple stories now (He's in K2). In terms of Eng. learning (especially phonic skills), it should be a good school.
作者: Sorb 時間: 10-4-9 09:35
Answer to Pingu_k's questions:
蘇浙有無教phonics
? Yes, KCS teachers Jolly Phonics starting from K1. My girl (now in K1) knows the pnonic sound of most letters now. To me, phonics is not that difficult to learn, if you think not enough from school, you can easily find good phonic class outside to supplement with the saving from the school fee : )
老師
又如何?有愛心嗎?(因為interview day見到有d老師年紀頗大及cool) I can only comment on the teachers that I have met. My girl is very lucky, all her teachers are very caring and loving. My girl enjoys school very much, she keeps on asking me to take her to school in the past few days. In my opinion, relatively old people sometimes are more caring and knowledgeble with the experience accumulated in the past.
蘇浙K1開始係咪有分local stream & int'l stream?如果將來係讀本地傳統小學
,係咪都係local stream較合適? Yes, starting from K1, they have 2 streams. If you prefer local primary schools, local stream (KG) is more suitable. If you can accept, you can place your kid into both streams. I know a few kids studying in KCS local KG in the morning and then int'l (PM) KG stream in PM. The school will take care of the children's lunch and give them a place to stay/play before PM class start.
I remember I have shared with you in other thread about KCS, last piece of information to you , those KCS K1 kids that I am familiar with are actually very good in English, a few very smart one (not including my girl) can read K3 or even P1 level books while in K1, which is really amazing. I think family input is also important in addition to the 45 minutes English time from school. I do not spend a lot of time on my girl's academic, so, my girl is not among those smart ones : )
Hope the above help! Cheers.
原帖由 pingu_k 於 10-4-9 01:29 發表
Sorb,
另想請問,蘇浙有無教phonics?老師又如何?有愛心嗎?(因為interview day見到有d老師年紀頗大及cool)
蘇浙K1開始係咪有分local stream & int'l stream?如果將來係讀本地傳統小學,係咪都係local stream較合適?tk ...
作者: beratse 時間: 10-4-9 10:03
Dear ashleymommy,
Thanks for your comments, it is happy to know that your son feels good to go to Victoria. I hope my son will enjoy the life in Victoria too.
Which campus is your son studying in? My son will study in Belcher campus.
原帖由 ashleymommy 於 10-4-9 03:07 發表
I like Victoria very much.
My son was shy and dared not to speak in front of others before. After studying in Victoria for around half year, he is opened. The teachers are kind. They always encourage ...
作者: ashleymommy 時間: 10-4-9 10:31 標題: 回覆 1# beratse 的文章
In South Horizons.
作者: pingu_k 時間: 10-4-10 00:14
really tks for your advice!! yes, u've already given me lots of valuable advice b4 as I've struggled between So Chit, Think & Keen Mind earlier! Finally, my boy is only on Keen Mind's waiting list & I don't hv to struggle between So Chit & KM anymore! & i've already given up Think's offer.
btw, i've never thought of putting my son in both am & pm classes!!! @.@ um.........seems to be a gd idea, but also seems to be too harsh for a kid, right?
作者: ABCDEFZ 時間: 10-5-4 20:29
原帖由 Sorb 於 10-3-15 14:21 發表
Another reason for me choosing 蘇淅 is because it's campus is much much better than Victoria's campus in Foretress Hill. ...
Hi all, we are also struggling between Victoria and KCS. We visited KCS campus this morning and found a big problem. We stayed for about 30 minutes while all school busessss queuing up in the playground to unload the small kidsssss. I wondered why these school buses did not switch off the engine since it generates lots of CO2 which cannot go away in the enclosed U-shape campus. We felt very uncomfortable
and decided to give it up.
Hope the parents pay attention to this and the school can improve it.
作者: ic07 時間: 10-5-5 14:35
thank you so much for yr valuable inputs!!
i have confirmed my choice - KCS (and give up Victoria and others).
hope to see you all soon in KCS!
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