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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-9-22 18:36 標題: Strategy get into hot professional programs in the University
In high school, the target of most students is getting into the local universities, particularly hot professional programs like Medicine, Accountancy, Law, etc.
Parents can share their strategy, planning and positioning how to get into those hot programs.
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-9-22 22:55 標題: Strategy 1
Global Exposure -
Visit developed, developing and under-developed regions and countries. I particularly mentioned regions because our kids can see different development regions even in China.
Not just overseas language summer camp, some working camp, mission trips or volunteer works etc can expand our kids exposure in culture, social problems etc......
Wider exposure can have better and more topics for admission interview, as it's your kid's personal experience, it's much easier for them to present in the interview. I strongly recommend my son to write down the trip report or summary in ppt format to share with others and group them together become an impressive portfolio.... of course, he can't do every trip.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-9-22 22:57 編輯 ]
作者: KWT 時間: 10-9-28 12:38
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-9-22 22:55 發表 
Global Exposure -
Visit developed, developing and under-developed regions and countries. I particularly mentioned regions because our kids can see different development regions even in China.
Not ...
可否pm d ppt report給我?
因為大仔目前仍未決定讀什麼?對外exposure又少,成績中間.尾班al.如果有多些資料,入u機會會大些.謝謝.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-9-29 20:54
原帖由 KWT 於 10-9-28 12:38 發表
可否pm d ppt report給我?
因為大仔目前仍未決定讀什麼?對外exposure又少,成績中間.尾班al.如果有多些資料,入u機會會大些.謝謝.
I need to seek for his consent, he may not wish to share with others.
I mean exposure can be local, regional or overseas. Do as much as you can is fine.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-1 18:07
My son turned it down due to privacy, I respect his decision.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-2 10:35 編輯 ]
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-1 18:22 標題: University Admission Requirement and Procedures
From September onward, many universities either local or from overseas have orientation day for admission or exhibition.
My friend's boy is in a local Band 1 EMI school at F7, his parents recommended him to attend the admission seminars of HKUST (18/9), but he preferred to study instead of seminars.
My son was also there, after the gathering, I asked him would you like to go and know more about the non-JUPAS application procedures and programs offer by target universities. He said he would like to know more and has more time to plan for that, so we will go for CUHK (9/10)and HKU (30/10).
His school also notify them to attend seminars of different universities, either in his schools or even other schools or HK Convention & Exhibition Centre.
On Wed, they have Ivy League Fair in-house, they invited some old boys to share about their experience in those universities etc. They can ask different questions to evaluate which school is or are best fit their ability and interest.
Know the admission officer face to face and exchange business cards, we can keep the contact and ask more appropriate questions.
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作者: WYmom 時間: 10-10-2 08:35
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-10-1 18:22 發表
From September onward, many universities either local or from overseas have orientation day for admission or exhibition.
My friend's boy is in a local Band 1 EMI school at F7, his parents recommended ...
Your suggestion is very valid. I see that students in IBD are really too busy to find so much info. and attend many admission talks from different U themselves. So we start getting info. earlier for our child so that we can select IB subjects next year in a way matching better with the target universities and career.
My kid now starts to think about what she will be interested in and realises that she has to put more effort in those subjects which are pre-requisite for entering the desired U and faculties.
[ 本帖最後由 WYmom 於 10-10-2 08:37 編輯 ]
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-2 10:34
原帖由 WYmom 於 10-10-2 08:35 發表
Your suggestion is very valid. I see that students in IBD are really too busy to find so much info. and attend many admission talks from different U themselves. So we start getting info. earlier f ...
Let's work and practise together, pls share with us here also.
IBDP aims at universities internationally, not just 7-9 local universities. Collect more info, analyse and finalise the decision as per our kids interest, ability and predicted scores. It's the team work of the whole family.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 10-10-2 12:20
good web sites for those prepare to go for IB:
http://www.ibsurvival.com/
http://intensecogitation.info/20 ... b-grade-boundaries/
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=10
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-2 13:55
Thanks for your recommendation.
We better focus on the title - hot professional programs in local universities.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 10-10-2 14:34 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
Sorry, I am so careless in notifying details.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-2 14:51
原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-10-2 14:34 發表
Sorry, I am so careless in notifying details.
Not at all, you always contribute and share some insightful info and comments here.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 10-10-2 18:18 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
I do have a little contribution to this topic: if you are interested in certain faculty, you should pay attention to that profession/ industry's organization / guild / institute to see what sort of activity they offered for general public so that you would learn more of what these people would do. Maybe a summer job also helps.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-2 18:29
原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-10-2 18:18 發表
I do have a little contribution to this topic: if you are interested in certain faculty, you should pay attention to that profession/ industry's organization / guild / institute to see what sort of ac ...
Thanks for your input, if you don't mind, I will consolidate your input in the coming strategies.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-5 00:07
Strategy 3 - Summer job or attachment (Pay or no pay)
(Suggested by mattsmum)
Work experience related to the professional subject definitely help to improve the advantage of the applicants. Through the experience, you may know the career more, understand the industry norm, know some influential people as mentor or supervisor (My son's school has the mentorship program for seniors), know the process and precedure to get professional qualification etc.
Some extreme examples as follow:
My ex-boss his eldest son studied in HKIS, summer job in Goldman Sachs and finally admitted to LSE in UK.
A friend of mine, his daughter got a summer job in HSBC and an International hotel chain, admitted to LSE and finally work for Investment Bank.
For ideal case, I would like my son can have overseas summer job experience , eg. US, Germany or even China (Beijing or Shanghai), Fortune 100 even better
. I don't mind no-pay, I will pay for tickets and provide maintenance fee for my son........ Anyone have contact???
For science or engineering, self-nomination to universities as volunteer. Age may be a concern, too young is difficult to get insurance coverage and cannot get into laboratory or operating machinery.
As volunteer to serve some professional bodies or trade associations........you can know some influential people, VIP, potential boss. Don't treat me wrong, I mean networking not polish the apple.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-5 12:58 編輯 ]
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-10-12 23:52 標題: Strategy 3A Attachment
In the admission talk of Medicine Faculty, CUHK, one of the speaker Dr. Lee, he shared with us what he did when he was in International School, he sent email to Professors in HKU and CUHK to ask for attachments. He was lucky enough to have 2 attachments in QMH and PWH respectively.
In the attachments, he understands the life of a doctor in hospital, the urgency, the life and death, emotional ups and downs, difference in Medicine and Surgery etc. He found the passion to be a doctor and go for it. He emphasis the career can be lasted for 40 years, if you can test it out before the final decision is a good move.
The same principle applies to other professional. Take an initiative to seek for opportunity by yourself, understand the career, pros and cons, other opportunities, hardship and rewards etc.....
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-10-12 23:54 編輯 ]
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-20 01:57
Strategy 4: OLE/ECA/CAS with focus or theme(s)
Last Saturday, my son'e school organised an University Day with over 30 old boys came back and shared their overseas universities studying experience to their juniors.
As they were from various background and countries, they provided an important idea for us to reconsider my son's CAS.
OLE/ECA/CAS are based on hours and achievements, but most students won't leverage with their dream programs. Say medicine, your ECA or CAS are piano and or swimming, it's good but if you can related that to your program which make a difference. E.g. run a concert as fund raising to sponsor a mini-medical check up program for the elderly in a public housing estates like in Shamshuipo, still related to music, but add more elements into it: aging population, medical check-up, leadership and creativity.
Wow, they challenged us and also opened our mind to do something more meaningful and challenging.
[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-11-20 13:08 編輯 ]
作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-11-23 01:46
Just because you mentioned your boy is going to apply to local universities using IB results and you mentioned the other day about something about the quantitative finance programs, I feel some more words may be necessary as insurance.
The quantitative finance programs in local universities are very mathematical as I mentioned. The first maths course and the first economics course use textbooks which are intended for master students elsewhere. The maths background from IB is not adequate for preparing your boy for the maths requirements of the course. Worse still, you are competing with people most of them got A in pure mathematics in HKAL, not to mention the NDS (mainland students). Historically, few EAS students (with 6 to 8 As most of them) and non-JUPAS students can perform as well as the A-Level students in their first two years. The final straw is that the students in these programs are separated from general business students. That means it is difficult to get good GPA which is a must if you consider going overseas for master studies. You are basically competing with the mathematically best students in Hong Kong beside GBus students who, on the hand, are taking classes comfortably with hundreds of general business students.
If you really want to go overseas afterward, go for a general business degree, an accounting degree or even an economics degree. You will end up with far better GPAs, other things being equal.
[ 本帖最後由 hog.wash 於 10-11-23 01:54 編輯 ]
作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-11-23 01:55
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-20 01:57 發表
Strategy 4: OLE/ECA/CAS with focus or theme(s)
Last Saturday, my son'e school organised an University Day with over 30 old boys came back and shared their overseas universities studying experience to ...
One suggestion for future doctors: do volunteering work in hospitals.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-23 13:14 標題: 回覆 18# hog.wash 的文章
hoq.wash
Thanks for your useful advice.
My son will sit for IBDP in 2013 and Maths go for HL and aim at grade 7, as no more HKAL, only HKDSE, the competition may not be so keen (My expectation only).
His Maths is excellent in HK standard and took some gifted programs in Stanford and Imperial College before. His strength is Maths, he attended the program in Imperial College 2009 and visited Barclays Capital in London. The speaker from BC explained to them that how to apply maths to financial market and how to write a good business proposal to borrow money from the bank.......... he loved that....
We recommend our son opt for professional degree rather too general like BBA and GBus. Quantitative Finance can be a good choice, as we think CFA is professional (Any comment?). He will have 2 more years to plan as we start to evaluate different programs locally and overseas.
LSE may be a good choice, BSc in Finance and Account or BSc in Economics, IB predicted score 38+, HL 7,6,6 and Maths must be HL and Grade 7.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-23 13:18 標題: 回覆 19# hog.wash 的文章
Noted with thanks.
作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-11-23 20:22
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-23 13:14 發表
hoq.wash
Thanks for your useful advice.
My son will sit for IBDP in 2013 and Maths go for HL and aim at grade 7, as no more HKAL, only HKDSE, the competition may not be so keen (My expectation only) ...
Sorry, 原來你係男版張文樂嘅爹哋。There is no HKAL in 2013, then it is a different ball game. But 與一群香港精英學生牢籠困獸斗要GPA高始終不易，所以醫科法津學生一般很難有很高的GPA。GBus學生與general BBA 學生一起上課屈機，低年班GPA爆4還是可能的。到了申請碩士時，你叫LSE面對一個BBA 3.7和一個Quantitative Finance 3.3 時如何選擇？單在二、三年級申請exchange時已有這現象了。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-24 00:31 標題: 回覆 22# hog.wash 的文章
Who is 張文樂?
Thanks again for your advice on GPA and diffferent level of different program.
If he can get an offer from LSE at undergraduate level, he will go for it.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-24 01:04 標題: 回覆 22# hog.wash 的文章
hog.wash
Pls check your pm.
ANChan59
作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-11-25 14:01
原帖由 ANChan59 於 10-11-24 00:31 發表
Who is 張文樂?
Thanks again for your advice on GPA and diffferent level of different program.
If he can get an offer from LSE at undergraduate level, he will go for it.
張文樂就是中銀廣告中那個未出生的女嬰。雖未出生，其父已幫她籌謀長大後的事情。
可以為你兒子做的，你都做了。你做的，遠比我為女兒做的要多得多。With a solid academic performance, your boy should get into the program he likes, in Hong Kong or elsewhere. Your can check PM later on for my reply to your other questions.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-25 17:16
原帖由 hog.wash 於 10-11-25 14:01 發表
張文樂就是中銀廣告中那個未出生的女嬰。雖未出生，其父已幫她籌謀長大後的事情。
可以為你兒子做的，你都做了。你做的，遠比我為女兒做的要多得多。With a solid academic performance, your boy should get into the ...
hog.wash
Oh, I see.
Not just you and I, all parents will do similar preparation for our kids, the difference may be our financial resources, connections, inspiration, value systems etc.
Looking forward to see your pm.
ANChan59
作者: judy 時間: 10-11-25 17:32
Sorry, 原來你係男版張文樂嘅爹哋。There is no HKAL in 2013, then it is a different ball game. But 與一群香港精英學生牢籠困獸斗要GPA高始終不易，所以醫科法津學生一般很難有很高的GPA。GBus學生與general BBA 學生一起上課屈機，低年班GPA爆4還是可能的。到了申請碩士時，你叫LSE面對一個BBA 3.7和一個Quantitative Finance 3.3 時如何選擇？單在二、三年級申請exchange時已有這現象了。
潮語咁勁，年輕的uncle。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-25 17:44
原帖由 judy 於 10-11-25 17:32 發表
潮語咁勁，年輕的uncle。
Judy, looking forward for your recommendations here.
作者: cherubic 時間: 10-11-25 23:43
Nowadays, many professional bodies have young members' group. These young members' group is formed basically by those members who only have a few years' working experience. Activities organized by the young members are mostly opened to those who are interested to join (i.e. not yet a member). Check the website to find more information. By way of joining those activities, you would have the chance to meet different people in the profession.
作者: judy 時間: 10-11-26 12:06
Judy, looking forward for your recommendations here.
ANChan,
孩子到中學，我實行放任政策。而事實上，好多嘢我理唔到。
在這里，我只有看的份兒。
作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-11-28 16:20
既然呢條thread講係如何申請大學熱門學系的策略，我也就將自己用過的雕蟲小技說一下。
去年我說過女兒讀不成法律系一事，這裏就從她如何報考法律系開始。
根據自己多年坐在interview desk另外一邊的經驗，再加上收集回來的資料，知道申請表中personal statement要做到的，無非是告訴university admission的人why this subject, why this school and why me.
很多人都會泛泛而談，流於空洞；再就矯情造作。但正如我欣賞的eviepa說道理的方式，和我English public speaking的導師所教的一樣，我提議女兒以故事開始。
幾年前我介紹女兒看我年青時喜愛看的一套以Harvard Law School為背景的小眾電視片集The Paper Chase。這片集一直是法律圈子喜愛的片子之一，而學術界人士通常喜歡這類 academic trivia。我就提議她從這片集講起，講裏面Professor Kingsfield(類似女皇的教室裏女教師的角色)怎樣引起她對法律的興趣。要是用John Grisham做引子可能會太普通。接着再講她從閱讀法律入門書籍中，如何被當中的 concepts 如ethical vs legal, sufficient vs adequate consideration for a contract, a minor’s capacity in entering contracts等概念迷著。告訴她不要怕班門弄斧，好的教授只怕學生不弄斧。結果順利得到interview機會(HKU不用interview，基本上只看成績)。
由於當時女兒在美國讀書，interview以電話進行，安排在香港時間星期五上午(女兒星期四的晚上)，而世事有時真的很巧妙，就在那個星期三下午發生香港法律史上的一件大事：上訴法院在法律圈子差不多一面倒預測相反結果的情況下推翻高院的判決，否决PCCW的私有化。
我馬上與女兒講電話，着她上網搜集有關資料，並囑咐她在interview中一有機會就提及自己雖身在異地，依然關心香港法律界的新聞，譬如PCCW一案的判决。我告訴她，只要有機會提及PCCW四個字母，就大局已定。結果一如所料，負責interview的professor一聽到女兒提及PCCW一案，就已滔滔不絕；其實又怎會有law professor能夠抗拒與考生討論此題目的誘惑。女兒本有點担心會不會顯得有點opportunistic，令對方產生有被set up之感。我告訴她，如果見到一個肯做準備功課，懂得捕捉機會的future lawyer也不會欣賞的話，這樣的law school不讀也罷。果然，interview未結束，該professor已明言希望女兒入讀(the actual wording used was “I have no problem recommending the school …”) ，接着再長篇大論(女兒語)勸女兒不要考慮HKU，分析他們比HKU好的地方。
雖然女兒最後沒有入讀，我相信我們準備的過程對一些家長會有所啟發。If you want something bad enough, you'll find a way. Where there's a will, there's a way. 還有，正如今日蘋果林奕華文章的標題：天使與魔鬼都在「細節」裏。下次再說一個朋友女兒報考中學和我小女兒報讀大學的故事。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-11-28 18:06 標題: 回覆 31# hog.wash 的文章
I love the story and it's reviewing.
Wait for your next story.
作者: cow 時間: 10-11-28 18:54
While selecting a professional degree, one has to know the path of becoming the professional member.
LLB -> 2:1 or at least high 2:2 -> PCLL -> practice -> solicitor/barrister
Accounting Degree -> QP -> Practice -> CPA
作者: Sumyeema1 時間: 10-11-29 16:16 標題: 回覆 31# hog.wash 的文章
uncle,
你的故事好吸引。 所有的鋪排似無而有，果然是高手。
作者: Share 時間: 10-11-29 16:57
高手，高手，佩服，佩服，家學淵源，有ＵＮＣＬＥ這樣的父母，子女自然出眾，眼界也不同。
作者: mattsmum 時間: 10-11-29 20:58 標題: 回覆 5# hog.wash 的文章
我們當年應付口試面對各類老行尊也用這方法。
作者: eviepa 時間: 10-11-30 22:37
很多人都會泛泛而談，流於空洞；再就矯情造作。但正如我欣賞的eviepa說道理的方式，和我English public speaking的導師所教的一樣，我提議女兒以故事開始。
Uncle,
我從小到大，幾乎甚麼學術都喜歡，但唯獨不愛語文。
十幾年前，我訂閱Times雜誌。在雜誌內，很多文章都是從一個故事開始，這個故事緊扣著以後的評述。
不敢與Times的章高手攀比，但我著實很喜歡這種風格，當我要在BK寫文章時，自然便東施效顰了。
在BK寫文章，我很喜歡嘗試新的表達方法，其一目的是貪玩，其次是自學後教女。
eviepa
作者: wunma 時間: 10-12-1 14:27
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-1 16:21
原帖由 wunma 於 10-12-1 14:27 發表
補充: 報HKU BBA Law, 5月會有面試, 6月會收到電郵, 通知你面試的結果, 分三個category. Category 3代表有substantial increase the chance of admission; Category 2 代表certain extent increase 而Category 3就 ...
wunma
You stated 2 times Cat 3, may be one should be Cat 1 instead.
Pls clarify which is which, also briefly explain the difference of different Cat. Which Cat is condictonal offer?
ANChan59
作者: wunma 時間: 10-12-1 16:48
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-1 17:48
原帖由 wunma 於 10-12-1 16:48 發表
已更正. Please see the following explainations:
Cat 1 -In line with general population of JUPAS applicants for the particular programme you have selected
we will simply look at your academic results ...
wunma
So Cat 1 has greater chance for admission. Am I correct?
How about non-JUPAS? The same classification?
ANChan59
作者: wunma 時間: 10-12-2 09:55
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-2 11:38
原帖由 wunma 於 10-12-2 09:55 發表
ANChan59,
嘗試說清楚點, 如發覺有錯請知情人士更正.
以HKU, CU同HKUST為例, 各自有一套計分法, 得出一個scores來為所有報讀生排名, 如面試表現好, 會有額外分加在total scores上.
UST中學會考分同高考分是4比6; CU ...
wunma
Thanks for your explanation, so Cat 3 is better chance than Cat 1 & 2 if exam results being equal.
For the weighed average scores of HKCEE & HKAL are noted. I did attend both CUHK and HKU's admission talks this year, the weighting of different school may have different, like Medicine CUHK, 3:7 and not necessary 5:5. We may need to double confirm with the admission office of individual university.
As our kids may sit for HKDSE in coming years, so may be no more weighed scores, just single examination like HKDSE, IBDP, GCE-AL etc.
作者: wunma 時間: 10-12-2 11:57
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作者: hog.wash 時間: 10-12-2 12:34
原帖由 wunma 於 10-12-2 11:57 發表
對, 不同program可能rating又不同, 如某些會乘大英文科公開試的成績.
Yes, it's different for different universities, different faculties, different proproams and for different routes. The whole thing is extremely complicated.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-27 18:25 標題: Strategy 5 Self-discovery - major & career
We had a large group Christmas party on 25th and many kids of our friends from overseas, UK, USA and Australia had some useful conversations related to program, major and career selection.
A couple of them mentioned that they did some self exploratory analysis in their high school or in junior years of college.
I guess some schools have similar arrangement to help students understand their interests & skills and facilitate them to pick a better program and career. If not pls refer to the following websites may help:
1. Questionnaire to identify your Holland Codes
http://cscc.edu/docs/PACS/assessment.htm#Featured
2. Explanation of Holland Codes and the highest 3 codes match with different majors and careers, two colleges examples listed as reference
http://www.pnc.edu/discover/holland.html
http://career.missouri.edu/resou ... %20Code%20S2010.pdf
http://www.vcu.edu/uc/documents/Discovery_Worksheet_4_page.pdf
I know more than one assessment around for similar application, Holland Code just one of them. If your kid doesn't have any clue about the program and the career, this may be a good starting point.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 10-12-27 20:25 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
Thank you, is holand game for at least 17 years old?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 10-12-27 21:18
原帖由 mattsmum 於 10-12-27 20:25 發表
Thank you, is holand game for at least 17 years old?
I am not sure about the assessment only valid for certain age, the same assessment also in my son's school website under career inclination assessment.
In this website, they have different versions for different educational levels.
http://www.hollandcoderesources.com/
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-1-19 23:23 標題: Strategy 6 - Scholarship
Two years ago, I was a panel member of a scholarship selection panel for a local professional institution. We interviewed 8 of top students, 2-3 were eligible for EAS and only 3 come from famous elite schools (全港名校 - 皇仁、英皇.....), and others are from local elite schools(地區名校 - 林護、鄧顯...).
All of them have two common characteristics:
1. Scholarships from different organizations; and
2. Best student awards from different district.
As a panel member, I felt that they came across other scholarship selection process before; they are clam, presentable and have the passion for the future program and career. It's easy for us to nominate them to get the scholarship of that year.
I strongly recommend our kids apply different scholarships, not just you can get it and make your CV more impressive, also give them a great opportunity to go through the selection process before the university admission process.
Lucky enough, they get some scholarships and really show their capability, character and passion of related discipline of professional. I can guarantee they have better chance to be accepted by that hot program. Even some of the panel members may be come from the university..........
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-5-27 09:00 標題: Other Strategies
I would like other parents to chip in their two cents in the following areas:
7. Interview, tough interview questions .....
8. Reference letter - Academic, character......
9. Extra-ordinary achievements.....
10. Others....
Thanks
ANChan59
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-6-10 21:04 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
Joint university' "summer school for career discovery". Go to their open days.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-12 12:51
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-6-10 21:04 發表
Joint university' "summer school for career discovery". Go to their open days.
Can you ellaborate more on point 1, like which university.... or any link...
I know HKU, HKPU, HKUST may have programs for certain professionals.... more professional specific and not career discovery.
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-6-12 20:29 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
Search "career discovery+hku", about 10500 per course.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-12 20:50
原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-6-12 20:29 發表
Search "career discovery+hku", about 10500 per course.
I got you.
I searched through Google, only architecture and communication. Am I correct?
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-6-12 22:43 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
i actually first know about such programme last year or so. they were called summer programme for all kinds of people-- secondary or hku students. a friend's son joint one of the programme and decide not to study in hong kong.
2011:
http://www.als.hku.hk/summer/2011/,
i did not go into details, but there are quite a number of courses such as engineering camp / architecture /oral sciences / media study /music and drama / beijing camp for secondary students. maybeyou can check out CU and UST too.
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作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-6-12 22:58 標題: 回覆 1# mattsmum 的文章
mnnn,
cu seems to have more courses but you need to be at least high school senior who got an offer:
http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/osp/pdf/ISS2011.pdf
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-13 00:43
mattsum
Thanks so much. Most programs offered by CUHK and HKU not his cup of tea.
Definitely, will be useful for students interested in the programs you mentioned.
My son got some ideas of his future career. From last Christmas onward, we arranged series of shadowing and internship in medical field for him.
ANChan59
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-27 23:00
may i know what you will arrange for your son this summer?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-27 23:27
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-27 23:00 發表
may i know what you will arrange for your son this summer?
SAT camp and 3 weeks attachment, I won't say where he goes, his request.
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-28 07:31
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-6-27 23:27 發表
SAT camp and 3 weeks attachment, I won't say where he goes, his request.
may i know where to find internships for secondary students? my daughter is going to be F5 now but she can only find internships that recruit undergrads.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-28 09:22
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-28 07:31 發表
may i know where to find internships for secondary students? my daughter is going to be F5 now but she can only find internships that recruit undergrads.
My suggestions:
1. Through your gangxi is the key, most go for university students
2. Go for shadowing, she may not have hand-on training experience, just understand the job, observe and paperwork only.
3. Insurance is a big concern - age, can't work in Lab or operate machine.
4. Prepare a CV, all request an impressive CV.
5. Just job exposure, go for fast food chain, clothes chain....... not necessary high profile companies.
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-28 19:23 標題: 回復 61# ANChan59 的帖子
Thanks for your advice. She just got a job as a sales and will find some more jobs on teaching young children(like teaching piano and Putonghua). However, her future career is either in the medical or the business field...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-28 19:55
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-28 19:23 發表
Thanks for your advice. She just got a job as a sales and will find some more jobs on teaching young children(like teaching piano and Putonghua). However, her future career is either in the medical or ...
Medical is not easy, you can go to Queen Mary Hospital website and check the attachment program. You can download a form to apply, they said you need to apply 6 weeks before the attachment start. I know every year have hundreds applicants and around 50 vacancies, included clinical, lab, research, science, administration and finance, operation posts.......
Business is much easier....
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-28 20:05 標題: 回復 63# ANChan59 的帖子
Thanks! The QM attachment is pretty useful! Well my daughter refused to work in my husband's firm as she wants to earn 'real money', not the one given by us. We are finding jobs for her.
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-28 20:11
oops just found out that the attachment program is for F6 or above 
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-28 20:20
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-28 20:11 發表
oops just found out that the attachment program is for F6 or above
Come on, break the rule.
Self-nomination and explain to the Senior Adm Manager that now it's 334, F5, F6 equivalent to F6~F7.........
ksenia, NO is not the answer ...... keep it going, not just you, also for your daughter......
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-28 20:28 標題: 回復 66# ANChan59 的帖子
Will call them tomorrow. Thank you very much!
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-28 20:30
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-28 20:28 發表
Will call them tomorrow. Thank you very much!
I recommend your daughter to call them and not you, you can brief her, rehearsal with her..... must be her...... Ask her to prefer a CV and covering letter.
I know most professors prefer students take initiative to knock the door, make the proposal, send CV........ not you...
Good luck....
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作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-29 19:08 標題: 回覆 68# ANChan59 的文章
Yes. She called it. They said it's full
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-30 00:00
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-29 19:08 發表
Yes. She called it. They said it's full
Sorry to know that, try next year, she still have time if she is going to take F5 after summer. Ask QM again, when is the best time to apply......
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-30 00:06 標題: 回覆 70# ANChan59 的文章
She will be going to LPC in September. I guess she may not have time for that. Sigh...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-30 00:09
原帖由 ksenia 於 11-6-30 00:06 發表
She will be going to LPC in September. I guess she may not have time for that. Sigh...
Great to know your daughter took the offer. 
She can do that in next summer in 2012...... for medicine attachment....
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作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-30 00:13 標題: 回覆 72# ANChan59 的文章
Maybe. I guess academic studies should be the most important part. Perhaps drilling papers and having extra tutorial lessons next summer will be helpful for her IBDP. I'm so worried about her now. She is not the top batch (she once was but her results has slipped to the middle ones since F3). She often finds lessons boring and falls asleep. She is the kind of girl who likes to challenge teachers. Apparently her school teachers and principal don't like her at all. Any advice for improving academic results?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-6-30 00:51 標題: 回覆 73# ksenia 的文章
Why she picked IBDP instead of NSS?
If she uses examination oriented approach for IBDP (drill past paper.....) why IBDP?
Before too late, browse the IBO, DBS, and SPCC - IB program websites, understand more IB. In other post I mentioned that in DBS, the teachers recommended some students to stick to NSS and don't take IBDP.....
If she likes to challenge authroities and status quo, it's good but not overkill. This character may be fitted for IBDP...
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-6-30 01:01 標題: 回覆 74# ANChan59 的文章
I thought drilling papers might be helpful. She doesn't like it. However, some of her friends from church are studying in international schools and they recommend her to do so.. We are just trying to arrange tutorial lessons for her English comprehension and critical thinking as her performance is not steady, not those 名師補習社.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-7-5 21:25 標題: PRC Attachment
Last two weeks I hosted two high school students from an Elite girl school and a boy from IS for the attachment in China & HK. Their academic background are flying colors and eligible for scholarship(s) in US.
They don't mind to live with workers in the dorm, basic living standard and they learn alot during the attachment.
They presented to me on Saturday what they learnt from the attachment:
1. The future decline of the World Factory in China when the costkeep on rising;
2. The industry transformation in China from low tech to high tech and more value-added....;
3. They are very lucky in HK, teenagers with similar age are working in the factory and the job pretty repetitive......
4. They teach staff to play piano, keyboard.....
After two weeks, they confirmed their future university majors and career path......... As a mentor, I am happy to know their inspirations........
作者: HarryPotter 時間: 11-7-7 21:14 標題: 回覆 76# ANChan59 的文章
HI,
My daughter wants to study law in HKU. Can anyone please give me some tips how she can get in and prepare?
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-7-8 23:37
原帖由 HarryPotter 於 11-7-7 21:14 發表
HI,
My daughter wants to study law in HKU. Can anyone please give me some tips how she can get in and prepare?
HarryPotter
As my son won't target Law program, I didn't do much research on this. I hope other parents may offer some tips for your daughter.
My son shared with me his classmates who may pick Law either in HK or overseas, their English standards are very top, if in IBDP, they will pick syllabus A, Literature stream, HL and they are comfortable to score 7. In HKDSE, also A** is their target grade.....
I arranged a few causal meetings for my son with a High Court judge, a solicitor and a barrister from Legal Dept 3-4 years ago. The conclusion is Law is not his cup of tea.......
Some of my friends will arrange attachment in law firms, either local or international firms, all depends on connection.
In my son's school, they have a mentorship program coorganised by the Further Study Office and the alumni. The juniors will match with seniors according to their future study or their career inspiration, I know some mentors assist them for attachment or shadowing at least.
ANChan59
作者: HarryPotter 時間: 11-7-10 10:24
ANChan59
Thanks a lot for your reply.
About the attachment, I don't think my daughter's school will have something like that. Besides, we don't know anyone in the law profession which means we can't arrange attachment for her. Is there any other ways attachment can be arranged?
Or any other related experience will be counted?
Thanks in advance!
原帖由 ANChan59 於 11-7-8 23:37 發表
HarryPotter
As my son won't target Law program, I didn't do much research on this. I hope other parents may offer some tips for your daughter.
My son shared with me his classmates who may pick Law ...
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-7-28 09:20 標題: 回復 79# HarryPotter 的帖子
HarryPotter
I don't have a stright forward answer, just share some ideas may work for your case.
I know some District Councillors provide legal advices for gneral public, they may open to take on some volunteer(s)........
Law schools may take students can master both languages..... Some NGO provide service to Southern Asian in HK, volunteers as interpreters may help....
Just examples....
ANChan59
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作者: busywomen 時間: 11-8-4 01:25
How to prepare for studying Architecture in the Uni? Any advices? Thanks.
作者: deniset 時間: 11-8-17 13:51
Visit the website of various universities of your choice and read carefully about the admission requirements, in particular the School of Architecture.
原帖由 busywomen 於 11-8-4 01:25 發表
How to prepare for studying Architecture in the Uni? Any advices? Thanks.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-3 14:39 標題: Admission Talks
HKUST Information Days 2011
24th Sept - HKALE, 3 years program
25th Sept - HKDSE,4 years program
http://infoday.ust.hk/
HKU Information Days 2011
29th & 30th Oct
http://www.infoday.hku.hk/
作者: slamai 時間: 11-9-6 13:50 標題: Important dates
HKALE applicants:
http://www.jupas.edu.hk/en/j3/calendar/important-dates
HKDSE applicants:
http://www.jupas.edu.hk/en/j4/calendar/important-dates
作者: JP 時間: 11-9-8 15:21
CUHK Orientation Day for Undergraduate Admissions 中大本科入學資訊日
8/10 (Sat) 四年制為主
9/10 (Sun) 三年制為主
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-16 00:35
This year, I shared with many friends the importance to attend the admission talks, they will go with their kids.
We missed some 2nd priority talks last year, we will split into 2 teams to gather sufficient info to finalise the subject selection in IBDP, like languages and SL vs HL......
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-16 11:24 標題: 回復 1# ANChan59 的帖子
http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/ecy_y/article?mid=1190
re-try based on first year result? how terrible.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-26 16:46
Mattsmum
After chatted with two admission offers in HKUST from Biz School, the blog's estimation is valid.
For BSc QF and Econ & Fin, streaming after 1st yr. For BBA, streaming after 2nd yr. If my son have a choice, he should pick other universities.......
ANChan59
作者: mattsmum 時間: 11-9-26 18:29 標題: 回覆 1# ANChan59 的文章
god， then that is really terrible, they have to be very good at year 1 before they can be the first batch to choose their faculty.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-26 23:47 標題: 回覆 89# mattsmum 的文章
Under NSS, first year of university program more for general/liberal studies. Eventually, your major will be decided by general studies and HKDSE.... It's crazy of our education system....
作者: ksenia 時間: 11-9-27 09:31 標題: 回覆 90# ANChan59 的文章
This is similar to the US system. Students study a year of Liberal Arts before choosing their subjects.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-9-27 11:33 標題: 回復 91# ksenia 的帖子
For BBA, 2 years before streaming.... not 1 year.
作者: cman_li 時間: 11-9-27 22:28
OMG! Set back the subject/class allocation with the the system using in secondary education.
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-23 22:28
My boy had a wonderful summer with different attachments and exposures in 2011. He may join more attachment and shadowing in different industries next summer to expand his options in programs. Then he needs to focus on academic achievement...... better predicted grades - 36+
He also stood for election in student council as one of the cabinet, finally, they lost, I wish they can learn something from there. Of course, he becomes an office bearer of another school organization and committe members of two more societies..... those capacities made his profile more presentable in admission.
作者: Annie123 時間: 11-10-25 17:21 標題: 回復 94# ANChan59 的帖子
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作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-10-26 09:16
原帖由 Annie123 於 11-10-25 17:21 發表
Thank you for sharing. Your son is definitely a bright and smart boy.
Annie123, thanks for your flattering remarks, that's not my intention to share our experience here.
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Around summer time, my son made a friend through fb, eventually, he is my son's senior and claimed - works in a MNC. He shared his experience with my son:
1. The senior observed most of his classmates or colleagues have better career advancement, they are more receptive to take parents arrangement in career exploration. His rationale is parents can arrange that must be more educated, well connected and more future looking, which the children can't have at that age. The children willing to take the golden opportunities, they may have a jump satrt.
2. He aslo recommended my son to read a few books written by Malcom Gladwell, my son borrowed them from the library and finished them in summer.
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His computer is in the sitting room.
I won't discuss how to control or handle our kids fb activities and security issues.
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作者: ch1970 時間: 11-12-30 13:57
本帖最後由 ch1970 於 11-12-30 13:57 編輯
兩大(三大則不清楚)裡頭有不少學者都以研究跨國生活出身(果然是大學, 什麼東西都可以研究)，定期會與不同科系部門的人灌輸相關知識。不記得港大還是中大, 商學院的高層同時又是負責做跨國學生學術聯繫的, 有次他跟大學裡研究跨國生活經驗的學者, 還有一所big4的HR見面時, 兩人不若而同說, 每逢面試, 總有一大籮人說自己很有國際視野, 但細問卻只可以像寫cv般將自己的經歷複述一次和淺層的感受, 完全不impressive. 這是數年前一名與他們共事的研究員跟我談起, 可見大學/見工面試, 應該不只要求面試者能透露自己的不同經歷, 而且還要求更多的吧? 我覺得可以試找出那些學者究竟是什麼科系, 略略看一下他們的文章, 就可以更了解究竟大學裡頭, 所謂國際見識其實是什麼一回事。
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-12-30 15:51
回復 ch1970 的帖子
Global exposure definitely more than just visits, seminars, friends........ reflection, actions, value system, higher level think are preferable.
My intention is used examples to trigger parents to stretch their boundaries, I didn't try all of them. I need to be humble in this aspect, but I will rise the hurdle as time goes by...... I won't expect a 16 years kid's compare with a professor in a very in-depth but narrow scope. I would like him or other kids have exposures in whatever means first, then in-depth....... How to internalize those experience are up to him, with our appropriate guidance?
作者: ch1970 時間: 11-12-30 16:34
ANChan59 發表於 11-12-30 15:51 
回復 ch1970 的帖子
Global exposure definitely more than just visits, seminars, friends........ refl ...
對 家長從旁協助是需要的, 有時子女顧住飲食說笑忘記了其他的意義, 當然, 不能和學者比擬, 但到現在我仍摸不著頭腦, 究竟什麼是很膚淺的感受, 而象牙塔裡的學者究竟期望學生可以有什麼得著....
作者: ANChan59 時間: 11-12-30 17:33
ch1970 發表於 11-12-30 16:34
對 家長從旁協助是需要的, 有時子女顧住飲食說笑忘記了其他的意義, 當然, 不能和學者比擬, 但到現在我仍 ...
Ha ha, a good question......... Anyway, it worth a reference paper, it counts more than teaching and something useful in our views.
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