英華 or 喇沙

2ling

My son also had 20 marks for the first round last year but was not as luck as the others got a seat from LS.   He also had 3 private schools on hand (all of them are in Kln Tong) but I still didn't join lucky draw.

Frankly speaking, all the Kln Tong boys I know who participated the lucky draw last year... only got Wxx Txx, Kowloon Tong Goxxxxxxxx.  One who just live next to LS even got a school in Wong Tai Shin which his mom didn't choose for him!!!

I have a younger son who's only 2.  If YW offers him a seat, I would still register Ying Wa and give up lucky draw.

overview

間間直資都有over千人報名, 唔通陳守仁都可以叫一線?
英華小學係一間好學校, 但又未至於去到一線, 不過家長滿意又何須介懷呢? 不過喇沙書院同英華中學真係唔同級數!

小林明子

overview,

小學係一級又如何, 你做少少reseach就知年年喇沙書院會收多少個外來生, 而一比之下, 成績好的都是從你所說的唔知第幾線的學校來的.  That's what I want to tell you, 能教出好學生就是好學校, 掂的學生不是用"名氣"教出來的.

再者, 我覺得論英文, 陳守仁真的比喇小好, 論教養喇小學生的目中無人遠勝英華和陳守仁的學生, 而且係有過之而無不及.(本人是親身領教過, 所以純是個人觀點.)

原帖由 overview 於 09-12-15 22:11 發表
間間直資都有over千人報名, 唔通陳守仁都可以叫一線?
英華小學係一間好學校, 但又未至於去到一線, 不過家長滿意又何須介懷呢? 不過喇沙書院同英華中學真係唔同級數! ...

[ 本帖最後由 小林明子 於 09-12-15 23:27 編輯 ]

childrenfirst

所有 LS 不是 lucky draw 就是有關系, 佢地每年又勸喻稍為不濟的學生離場，校內又明顯分精英/非精英班，這樣去keep住D質素。抽中入幸運成份居多。我住係41net 好多年，15分當然抽唔中，但無打算再抽。我識好幾個DSS收左都唔抽，反而無DSS offers 焗抽，先入到。LS academic 係好高standard, 但我真係唔覺得入到有幾proud. 反而考DSS/private schools 的學生和家長真的面對很大壓力，又身經百戰，入邊間都好，都係付出最大努力去爭取。
只是個人意見。
希望喜歡 "2線" YW的家長，聽日都有好消息。

cfaye

原帖由 小林明子 於 09-12-15 23:18 發表
overview,

小學係一級又如何, 你做少少reseach就知年年喇沙書院會收多少個外來生, 而一比之下, 成績好的都是從你所說的唔知第幾線的學校來的.  That's what I want to tell you, 能教出好學生就是好學校, 掂的學生 ...

完全同意，名校你估真係老師勁ｄ或有特殊教學方法使學生出類拔萃？係叻個ｄ　跟本就係靠自己父母support，唔好以為學校可以幫到你ｄ乜野，只不過入面競爭大你唔努力，就比人淘汰。抽到ｌｓ唔覺得係乜野，入到去就知佢地為左洗牌，你跟唔到無得留低。
真係唔好以為入左所謂１線學校你個仔就係１線學生ｌａ，秤下自己乜野斤兩先。

smartcar

Remember my son got 20pt still could not manage to got an offer in LS at 1st round.

Thks God YW became a DSS and we were lucky to have a seat.

Son is happy to the school, snoopy principal, schoolmate regardless all the hard works.  

zz

你雖然住係net 41多年,但你完全不熟悉喇小!

分精英/非精英班?道聽塗說.

原帖由 childrenfirst 於 09-12-15 23:22 發表
所有 LS 不是 lucky draw 就是有關系, 佢地每年又勸喻稍為不濟的學生離場，校內又明顯分精英/非精英班，這樣去keep住D質素。

Era

係聽番來既,冇去求證過...

高年班有好多人留班(最多一級有1x個),學校係用呢個方法,而唔係勸人走.當然接受唔到咁既安排既,就會自動走都唔出奇.
至於舊年,第一年直資既p1,就聽唔到有人要留班,或者要走人啦.

原帖由 wunma 於 09-12-16 08:25 發表


英華一定唔勸人走, 有位收外來生都唔會揀叻人, 係咪?

papa_pop

I know a case who was allocated to LS in the second round (he's 2nd child).  His mum said it's purely luck.  I agree that chances are not high and neither are most of your bets.  Just present a more balanced view that someone really takes the chance... and is rewarded.  By the way, the kid is doing fine in school.

原帖由 2ling 於 09-12-15 21:09 發表
My son also had 20 marks for the first round last year but was not as luck as the others got a seat from LS.   He also had 3 private schools on hand (all of them are in Kln Tong) but I still didn't jo ...

littlemak

gracechung,
tks for your kind info.

totally agree with you:
this is one of the point I am worried: boys in boy-school are more naughty and noisy than boys in co-ed school.
but it seems there is not many good co-ed DSS school in kln side.
YW students are quite naughty and noisy (of course, all boys, but should be the same case as DBS, LS etc all-boy schools!) but I have met some of them after school, quite polite ah (of course, boys can be naughty and playful but still polite but not gentle).

YW is a good school anyway.

academic same tough as DBS and LS, maybe Eng a little bit less high as DBS(?) but the std is getting higher and higher. Chi and Maths should be ok.
if don't study hard, i think same story, one cant stay in YW, or any good school. reasonable ah!

how do you judge a school good or not? only difference: is the school having any means to help those weaker student? or just ask them to go away? because helping the weaker ones need a lot of resource?

For LS, i heard from the tutorial centre teachers that there is not much remedial help.

For this point, i am not sure abt YW.
anyone know? any current YW parent can tell?

原帖由 gracechung 於 09-12-15 12:06 發表
當年我就係20分首輪抽唔到又係net41，最後揀入YW，當年我其實仲有三間私校在手，要博都可以一試，但冇咁做，當時我諗，既然天父咁安排就接受囉。事實上，亞仔都讀得好開心又學到野，學業上我十分滿意，不過曳左好多囉(好聽d就活躍囉)，我 ...

Kanba

如果論知名校友數量定一線二線,yw目前係無ls,dbs,spcc多。但揀學校不是只看前人的成就,反而教學理念,教學方法,老師的投入,校長的領導等,對培育我們的孩子就比較重要。

論課程和師資,甚至讀書風氣,可不可說ls係一線yw二線?論學生素質(現在入yw的要面試競爭,公平些,要比較yw的直資生),誰可斷定ls係一線yw二線?

再實際些講,如果yw收了個仔,而肯冒險放棄博抽籤入ls,家長有自己衡量。但相信為數不多。

yw有收生自主權,各區學生可憑自己表現爭取入學,加上有提早收生的優勢,學生的素質不會比官津名校差。反而,他們的能力相對平均,在直資環境下,同學的可塑性更容易得以發揮。

[ 本帖最後由 Kanba 於 09-12-18 13:54 編輯 ]

childrenfirst

sorry if I got the information wrong but the the info was come from a LS parent.
I better stop here as I have no objection towards LS and only would like to share my views.

原帖由 zz 於 09-12-16 09:23 發表
你雖然住係net 41多年,但你完全不熟悉喇小!

分精英/非精英班?道聽塗說.

fsforth

原帖由 Era 於 09-12-16 09:23 發表
係聽番來既,冇去求證過...

高年班有好多人留班(最多一級有1x個),學校係用呢個方法,而唔係勸人走.當然接受唔到咁既安排既,就會自動走都唔出奇.
至於舊年,第一年直資既p1,就聽唔到有人要留班,或者要走人啦.

...

高年班是津校時代入來, 成績比較參差不齊
如果學校一心要做好個figure, 根本不用留班, 勸走再換血就可以了, 不過, 一間有良心為孩子的學校不容易行出這一步

低年班是直資時代入來, 應該是林校長監督下的interview選出來, 她可能是唯一一個連first in 都親自面見小朋友的校長, 已經減少很多mismatching 的出來, 未必一定100% qualified, 但校長相信小朋友會頂得住YW的要求

littlemak

Era refers to LS or YW ??



fsforth, pls check PM. tks!

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-16 10:16 發表


高年班是津校時代入來, 成績比較參差不齊
如果學校一心要做好個figure, 根本不用留班, 勸走再換血就可以了, 不過, 一間有良心為孩子的學校不容易行出這一步

低年班是直資時代入來, 應該是林校長監督下的interview ...

[ 本帖最後由 littlemak 於 09-12-16 10:22 編輯 ]

Era

sorry,之前講得唔清楚,我係講英華.
我唔多認識ls.

原帖由 littlemak 於 09-12-16 10:21 發表
Era refers to LS or YW ??



fsforth, pls check PM. tks!

QQ818

YW 無疑是好學校, 因本人太喜歡LS, 會give up YW....唯有無奈博一博!!!!

fsforth

原帖由 QQ818 於 09-12-16 13:49 發表
YW 無疑是好學校, 因本人太喜歡LS, 會give up YW....唯有無奈博一博!!!!

拿個仔的YW的offer 來作賭注...值得嗎?
YW offer 是靠個仔三次出色的表現得番來, 你等如拿血汗錢去賭一樣...唉! 有問過小朋友的意見嗎?

不過, 會有好多waiting list 家長多謝你...

[ 本帖最後由 fsforth 於 09-12-16 14:04 編輯 ]

mamay

原帖由 fsforth 於 09-12-16 14:02 發表


拿個仔的YW的offer 來作賭注...值得嗎?
YW offer 是靠個仔三次出色的表現得番來, 你等如拿血汗錢去賭一樣...唉! 有問過小朋友的意見嗎?

不過, 會有好多waiting list 家長多謝你... ...

If purely for comparions, LS of course is better than YW in all aspects.

If you give up YW, you may need to consider :
- Do you have back-up offer?
- What is the chances of going to LS via lucky draw?
- If (touch wood), you are unable to get a seat in LS, will you feel regret of giving up YW?

I am not a risk-taker, I live in HK side.  I do like Wah Ya.  However, I don't dare to give up the YW seat as there is no guarantee that I can get a seat from Wah Ya.

GBAmon

其實佢可能係waiting list 家長....