MYP looking for honest review

BlossomAlmond

Hoola 發表於 24-4-28 01:25
Would like to know your honest feedback on MYP? Do you like it? If not, why not?My kid was at a PYP  ...

Sounds really frustrating, I can feel your worries. Mind sharing the school name? Via pm if you don’t want to share it here.
Thank you!

HoneyButter

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沒有講座, 什少有活動, 活動多數是孩子有份參與的才會獲邀到學校, 例如該 year 孩子參與的assembly, 全year家長可以去看, 有些是某幾位學生在assembly上台的家長才能參加, 全校活動較少。2種conferences多數官腔, 叫不用担心, 沒什麼要担心, 只有一年好彩遇到好老師才有特破性的真心誠意回饋 (無論好與壞)。profolio在全年完結時才帶回來的, 有看, 亦仍然keep住在家。

HoneyButter

964000 發表於 24-4-29 18:35
本帖最後由 964000 於 24-4-29 18:57 編輯

我女小學雖然是British curriculum 加IB training, 其實我也 ...

有standard test, 有pre-assessment, unit assessment 什少, 大概了解孩子的水平。
會skip 部份 maths 嗎 (跳教)? 幾乎沒有science? 會否集中只有一少部份人全年有多重角色﹑多次機會﹑多官多職?

焦慮是担心MYP會否是同一模式跳教?

poonseelai

孩子學校小四到初中也會參加international school assessment, Eng and Math papers, 學校都會睇返overall school results vs global, 睇下有那些改善地方, 雖然pyp無test, 自己也有個概念孩子大約水平

poonseelai

HoneyButter 發表於 24-4-29 21:23
有standard test, 有pre-assessment, unit assessment 什少, 大概了解孩子的水平。
會skip 部份 maths 嗎  ...

即老師會選人做角色, 好多時同一批人？按成績？

HoneyButter

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對, 同一批人. 不是按成績.

RainyRice

看見大家的回覆，基本上IB尤其是PYP MYP只是一個框架。似乎行IB PYP MYP 的IS，VSA ESF-RC都做得不錯，但有些其他沒有開名的ESF / IB學校則做PYP MYP行得不如理想，甚至同一間學校，可能有些小朋友和家長會受到更好的待遇，而覺得學校很好，但某些小朋友則不受關注。這似乎是學校和某些老師的問題。
那樓主其實會不會嘗試轉其他IB學校或其他非MYP 的國際學校？
而已完成IB課程的家長又有什麼意見提議給大家？謝謝。

poonseelai

RainyRice 發表於 24-4-29 23:44
看見大家的回覆，基本上IB尤其是PYP MYP只是一個框架。似乎行IB PYP MYP 的IS，VSA ESF-RC都做得不錯，但有 ...

pyp 加myp嘅學校得幾間

Radiomama

IB school 要辦得好不是容易，所以選校要睇track record。

同時家長要主動出擊去了解老師的教學模式和內容，只要保持良好態度，無見過不肯回應家長提問的老師。所以大家要把握每一次機會。

Radiomama

本帖最後由 Radiomama 於 24-4-30 08:05 編輯

朋友曾比喻，唸本地學校是在泳池游泳，有賽道規範、池深已經預知；而唸IB school則是在海裏游，掌握技巧只是第一步。我見啲老人家每日到沙灘游早水，慢慢游唔好急係竅門 ，同你在池邊睇操水是兩種不同風景。

Radiomama

如果硬要問老師：個海有幾長、即係等於幾多個池、幾多秒游一個來回，你唔會得到答案。
所以家長也要思考究竟想知道IB的什麼。

Saboc

讀緊英基中學,去到中學完全唔知道每一個學期教學topic嘅sequence,雜亂無章,可能佢好有系統,但學生同家長一無所知
小朋友大個,其實家長就唔會再插手佢哋嘅讀書,但起碼作為消費者都想知下究竟學校發生緊乜事.

想問其他國際學校係唔係都係咁

RainyRice

For ESF, I have heard more negative feedback (parents feeling lost) from QBS SJS … I heard RC SIS KJS are better (teachers communication with parents). Is this consistent with your understanding?
The better communications I heard could be cuz their kids just transitioned into the ESF secondary schools and faces challenges. Teachers kept the parents informed on areas the kids were underperforming.  

poonseelai

Saboc 發表於 24-4-30 08:23
讀緊英基中學,去到中學完全唔知道每一個學期教學topic嘅sequence,雜亂無章,可能佢好有系統,但學生同家長一 ...

你那間是igcse 定 myp？

Radiomama

英基中學，不是每間都行MYP, 只有RC 同DC; 其他的均是先行校本課程、IGCSE，然後最後兩年IBDP。

每學年的教學內容，老師應該有個「劇本」的，不過好多時候無固定教科書，所以家長覺得亂？上到中學，孩子應該有能力分享自己的學習，每日傾吓偈、聽吓佢講是非，點都知道少少端倪。

RainyRice

Radiomama 發表於 24-4-30 08:57
英基中學，不是每間都行MYP, 只有RC 同DC; 其他的均是先行校本課程、IGCSE，然後最後兩年IBDP。

每學年的 ...

Although not MPY, the 5 secondary schools have 3 years of curriculum aligned to MYP?
“For the other five ESF secondary schools, the curriculum are aligned to the MYP framework from Years 7 to 9. At Years 10 and 11, students follow a school-designed curriculum with an approach that is broad and balanced leading to a suite of IGCSE and GCSE qualifications.”
https://www.esf.edu.hk/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/ESF-Secondary-Curriculum-leaflet-2019-4pp.pdf

chunting34

Hoola 發表於 24-4-29 09:41
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Our school focus a lot on the unit of inquiry, with little time left to teach ...

Thanks for raising this for discussion!

This is consistent with what I observed in PYP as well.

Foundation knowledge is weak.

Inquiry skills were taught quite well, but since the class size is so big, a teacher could spend very little time on one kid to give specific guidance and feedback, which I think is very important if you want them to improve. The chances for each kid to present and share are also limited.

It seems that only the relatively top kids can benefit from it, while others have tutorials outside to build up the foundation knowledge. Some schools do not even have weekly email from class/ year group teachers for communication.

The idea of IB learning is very good, but the execution is hard

Hoola

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Agree! A nice selling concept, but so many problems when executing.As a parent from IB school, I feel like I am their maths teacher, english teacher, chinese teacher after school.
Sending them to tutor center more often than I anticipated.

If this is going to be same at MYP, maybe British curriculum is the preferred route

Hoola

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To me, those student-led conference are fancy names.Its basically just sharing of what they did.
Every time I attended, there is a well of disappointment inside me.
Students are confused and don't know what to share.
On their portfolio, I can see they did so little and research was swallow.  
Often I see this at the end of year, and then it hits me - my child have wasted a year at that school.

I have changed my kid to a British Curriculum school (Harrow) - things became so much clearer. Objectives were clear. Targets were always met. Teachers know what they are doing. My kid thrived and I don't have to overlook everything like I used to, because the school is always organized. My kid is almost at the end of upper primary and soon its time to move onto high school.
I need to decide whether to stay at our current British Curriculum school or apply other prestigious MYP schools like CIS. But CIS are MYP, so I want to understand whether there are great MYP schools out there (and maybe give IB a second chance).

Hoola

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In our past PYP school, we seldom have standard tests. Maybe once per year?
Even if the students are passing with flying colors, it doesn't mean its from the IB program.
From what I observed, most parents realize there is little academic teaching in the program and begin to supplement with extra tutoring. Leading to great assessment outcome. The school think the outcome is their credit, but that's far from the truth.