教統局-“嚴查”和 "嚴懲”虛報地址, 特別是 41校網

范莉莎

Thanks, rhkrv!

My child is K2 this year only.  I jus plan for it.  If I can get the seat in the first round, I don't need to move.  If I can't get the desirable seat in first round and can't get any seat for the desirable private or DSS, I will consider to move and have a luck in lucky draw.   That's why I need to know the timeline so that I can plan for it.

Another question.  For private and DSS result, when will the acceptance result be released?  是否大約十月底己知result?

原文章由 rhkrv 於 08-1-25 16:01 發表


actually anytime you can change your address, but on or before 26 & 27/1 should be better, because nobody know the lucky draw will held.
If change before the draw, you can draw what your choice,
If  ...

d2343130

大部份的私校同直資都會同自行分配結果的公佈時間差不多同時出, 即是11月尾! 但仍有某些是12月中至尾先出...

不過, 如想自行或直/私小出result後,先諗搬去第2區, 教統局就check得嚴d, 同你必須出示更有力的證明你真係買或租該地點....

如果經濟可以又點都會選某區的學校給小朋友, 而又唔係好近而家住的地方, 搬去先都唔係唔好的決定, 不過都要睇吓個市係點!!

祝你好運!!

原文章由 范莉莎 於 08-1-29 09:44 發表
Thanks, rhkrv!

My child is K2 this year only.  I jus plan for it.  If I can get the seat in the first round, I don't need to move.  If I can't get the desirable seat in first round and can't get any  ...

[ 本文章最後由 d2343130 於 08-1-29 10:57 編輯 ]

andykwan

how about net 34? under strick monitor too?

seems not so popular as net 41... the property price there is much cheaper... i am looking for a flat for investment and "address" too...

范莉莎

Thanks!

原文章由 d2343130 於 08-1-29 10:56 發表
大部份的私校同直資都會同自行分配結果的公佈時間差不多同時出, 即是11月尾! 但仍有某些是12月中至尾先出...

不過, 如想自行或直/私小出result後,先諗搬去第2區, 教統局就check得嚴d, 同你必須出示更有力的證明你真 ...

annienorman

原文章由 River 於 08-1-22 13:24 發表
My friend is also requested to present other kinds of proof
for her address at net 41.  It seems really serious for this year.

What is "the other kinds of proof"?

chanhao

You won't get an answer. There is no such "the other kinds of proof". Every year scaring stories of this kind are always passed around.

原文章由 annienorman 於 08-2-4 10:33 發表


What is "the other kinds of proof"?

chanhao

教育局現行做法根本就係荒謬. 明明自行收生階段毋校網限制, 就偏要申請人交地址證明. 仲要話如果證明任何人虛報地址, 會取消其自行收生階段獲派o既學位. 個學位都唔關個地址事, 都唔係因為個地址先獲派. 合理嗎?

chanhao

講到尾, 自從實施九年免費教育, 幾十年來從來無人呃個小一學位番來, 或者呃過政府任何資源 (除非不同學校o既學位所投放o既資源有所不同). 因此, 教育局沒有必要雷厲執行. 教育局亦都束手無策. 只要屋主牚, 租又好借又好, 佢又可以點, 眼紅者又可以點.

原因: 沒法可依. 所以, 我建議立法, 只要有法例寫明虛報地址要如何如何, 仲有無人敢以身試法呢?

[ 本文章最後由 chanhao 於 08-2-5 17:34 編輯 ]

rhkrv

原文章由 ding.ding 於 08-1-26 00:30 發表
甘我仲係同62,99住,  樓契,  差餉, 水,電,煤都係用佢地個名, 甘做唔做得official statment, 勢唔勢轉名呀??

You no need to change any name, they will request you to make a swear declaration if necessary. They just want you to proof that you are living there.

rohoy2k

刑事罪行條例 - SECT 36 虛假法定聲明及其他未經宣誓的虛假陳述任何人明知而故意在 非經宣誓的 情況下， 在 下列項目中作出在 要項上屬虛假的 陳述─   (a)  法定聲明； 或   (b)  當其時有效的 成文法則授權或 規定他作出、 核簽或 核證的 摘要、 帳目、 資產負債表、 簿冊、 證明書、 聲明、        記項、 預算、 清單、 通知、 報告、 申報 表或 其他文件； 或   (c)  由或 根據或 依據當其時有效的 成文法則規定他作出的 任何口頭聲明或 口頭答覆， 即屬犯罪，        一經循公訴程序定罪， 可處監禁2年及罰款。 (將1922年第21號第7條編入。 由1924年第5號附表修訂) [比照 1911 c. 6 s. 5        U.K.]

原文章由 rhkrv 於 08-2-5 17:57 發表


You no need to change any name, they will request you to make a swear declaration if necessary. They just want you to proof that you are living there.

Dalwm

請問我有2個不同網的住址,我用其中一個不是經常係度住的地址,是否不可以?

從教署網內好像找不到這點的解釋或說明,可在那處找?  謝謝!

rohoy2k

我唔係法津人,亦唔知教署執行尺度.

但我知"住址"同"管有物業地址"係有小小分別.

法院查香灼璣單case 都要影吓佢張床同來往信件而話佢係唔係住係果庶.

BaByQ113

自行收生都係咩...

原文章由 chanhao 於 08-2-5 16:57 發表
教育局現行做法根本就係荒謬. 明明自行收生階段毋校網限制, 就偏要申請人交地址證明. 仲要話如果證明任何人虛報地址, 會取消其自行收生階段獲派o既學位. 個學位都唔關個地址事, 都唔係因為個地址先獲派. 合理嗎? ...

mamagohome

let us consider the following situations:

1] your friend/relative/employer/parents has an unoccupied/occupied flat situated at net 41, they are very generous to you and allow you  to live in their flat, free of rent and utlities expenses etc.

your decisions are that you use the net 41 address for poa purpose but you do not occupy that flat, ie. your children nor you physically live in that flat.


2] similar to point 1] situation, but you have honestly paid for the rent of that flat, and neither of your children nor yourself living in that flat.

3] you could live in that flat, and in substance, both your children and yourself living in that flat, but free of rent because the owner of that flat is mr. lee k.s. who woul like to help you out legally.


in which case, the parents have committed an offence, which the eudcation department should prosecute the relevant parents, by reporting to the education department in respect of their address in net 41?

chanhao

很可惜Cap 200 SECT 36 虛假法定聲明及其他未經宣誓的虛假陳述 並不適用. 因為小一申請表並不是法定聲明; 亦沒有有效的成文法則規定.

相反, 有許多情況申報資料就有法例規定. 例如在選民登記申請表填報住址, 雖然無須住址證明, 但它有相關的成文法cap 541選舉管理委員會條例, 寫明作出虛假聲明的罪行.

原文章由 rohoy2k 於 08-2-11 12:25 發表
刑事罪行條例 - SECT 36 虛假法定聲明及其他未經宣誓的虛假陳述任何人明知而故意在 非經宣誓的 情況下， 在 下列項目中作出在 要項上屬虛假的 陳述─   (a)  法定聲明； 或   (b)  當其時有效的 成文法則授權或 規定他作 ...

kcm

但我朋友用佢層樓個地址(唔係住)抽,仲公開話得,係唔係冇咁熱門的區OR學校唔查架?

yatjeh

這個我也想知道呢！　因我有物業在１２區，但我現租出該單位，如果我中簽後才決定搬回該單位或另買新一個，這樣做可以嗎？

原文章由 kcm 於 08-2-27 01:55 發表
但我朋友用佢層樓個地址(唔係住)抽,仲公開話得,係唔係冇咁熱門的區OR學校唔查架?

chanhao

Officially, 你唔係住o係o個度, 梗係唔得. 問題係點證明你唔係住o係o個度, 教育局亦束手無策.

原文章由 kcm 於 08-2-27 01:55 發表
但我朋友用佢層樓個地址(唔係住)抽,仲公開話得,係唔係冇咁熱門的區OR學校唔查架?

chanhao

通知租客將會收樓, 再嘗試同教育局講.

釐定是否符合就近上學, 其實開學時住邊先係最緊要, 好可惜係將來式. 如果真係要住緊先至係"合法住址". 咁住o係新界, 屋企裝修, 要暫住41網朋友家, 係咪自己唔想, 都要報41網呢. (Just kidding!)

原文章由 yatjeh 於 08-2-27 17:24 發表
這個我也想知道呢！　因我有物業在１２區，但我現租出該單位，如果我中簽後才決定搬回該單位或另買新一個，這樣做可以嗎？

KadenceCheng

同意呢位家長概講法, 不過我都聽過好多媽咪話今年真係教統局查得好嚴. 連借地址比人都會比人告.

所以大家千其唔好試呀!