蔡繼有学校

kkdkkj

各位家長,
今日明報教得樂介紹蔡繼有呀!

puncos

多謝哂！

原文章由 kkdkkj 於 07-10-23 14:05 硐表
各位家長,
今日明報教得樂介紹蔡繼有呀!

kyliema2006

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明報網站上載了一段關於蔡繼有的訪問，以供參閱。

http://happypama.mingpao.com/cfm/study5.cfm?File=20071023/schc/CKY.txt

Papa2000

報上提到佢嘅「ECECE」語文政策,請問係幾年級開始?
實際情況是否真係做到全天候英語或普通話?
會唔會出現同學間"半桶水 "對"半桶水"有D負面影響?

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-10-24 09:47 硐表
Clipping


明報網站上載了一段關於蔡繼有的訪問，以供參閱。

http://happypama.mingpao.com/cfm/study5.cfm?File=20071023/schc/CKY.txt

kyliema2006

原文章由 Papa2000 於 07-10-25 15:01 硐表
報上提到佢嘅「ECECE」語文政策,請問係幾年級開始?
實際情況是否真係做到全天候英語或普通話?
會唔會出現同學間"半桶水 "對"半桶水"有D負面影響?

...

此制度，由一年級已開始了。不過一年級的【C】是廣東話，到二年級才變為普通話。同學間會否半桶水鬥半桶水，哈哈，其實係有的。相信小兒的普通話（他現時是小二）一定是半桶水喇。不過又咁噃，他小一時的普通話，可以以慘不忍睹來形容，現在已有長足的進步了。

學習語言，應用的機會越多，就會越好，相信是不容置異的。學校要他們多說，就是要訓練他們不怕說第二語言。至於修正發音／文法等等的工作，就要交給老師及家長們了。

至於有無人【偷雞】，可能有也說不定。學期初時，小兒說很多同學都不遵從此制度，現在他說同學們都遵守制度了。記得去年觀課時，就算在小息，老師都會逗留在課室（可能因為是初小吧），亦會有些到操場維持秩序，因為會有老師在學生身邊，相對學生可【偷雞】的機會就少了。（以前我讀書的時候，小息時，所有老師們都會全失蹤的，祇剩下糾察們維持秩序）所以，我都會覺得蔡繼有的老師都蠻多額外工作做的。下星期又是觀課的日子，到時看看情況如何。

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-10-25 16:10 編輯 ]

rdc888

Thanks alot.

aclam

My concern is "IB" more than "ECECE". The principal mentions that they plan to join "IB" in high school, ?year 10 to 12, instead of from the beginning like Victoria since the cost of joining IB is high. She explains that they are able to design  cirruculum as good as "IB". But finally they will let their student joining "IB" as the public exam. I just doubt if the "IB" organization treat CKY student the same as other student who use "IB" from the beginning.  The "IB" organization is the marker eventually. You know there is interest conflict. If student not using "IB" cirriculum, or only study for such a short period of time, can gain good result, why should other school pay for the cirruculum from Primary to Secondary or high school?  Afterall, education is also one kind of business.
I am not sure if others understand what my concern is. If you do, what is your comment? Am I too cautious or overreacted?

Papa2000

DBS & St. Paul Co-ed will also go for IB Diploma only.  I believe there should not be any "special" treatment on exam result.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-28 23:52 硐表
My concern is "IB" more than "ECECE". The principal mentions that they plan to join "IB" in high school, ?year 10 to 12, instead of from the beginning like Victoria since the cost of joining IB is hig ...

owenmami

There are other school (college) offering IB Diploma only.
Li Po Chun United World College is another one:
http://www.lpcuwc.edu.hk/
Actually, she is the IB pioneer in HK.
Some students in Li Po Chun come from local schools. So I don't see any problem with pursuing IB at Dilpoma level only.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-28 23:52 硐表
My concern is "IB" more than "ECECE". The principal mentions that they plan to join "IB" in high school, ?year 10 to 12, instead of from the beginning like Victoria since the cost of joining IB is hig ...

aclam

Li PO Chun is another issue. They already select students in such a high standard. For other schools, all in trial. Personally, still a bit worry. Seems risky ( to me).

WYmom

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-29 10:44 硐表
Li PO Chun is another issue. They already select students in such a high standard. For other schools, all in trial. Personally, still a bit worry. Seems risky ( to me).

aclam,

I think CKY is taking reference from Yew Chung International School as their principal in secondary session comes from Yew Chung (if I remember correctly).  Yew Chung is also a bilingual school with mostly local Chinese students.  Maybe you can see how they are performing in IBD as a reference.  I heard that their IBD average is around 28 (out of 45) sometimes ago, not sure about the updated results.

Li Po Chun only runs pre-U grades with IBD, they select the best students over the world, their IBD average is 36.

[ 本文章最後由 WYmom 於 07-10-29 11:01 編輯 ]

owenmami

aclam,

To me, the "PYP" and "MYP" is just like "ISO 2000". The recognition does not guarantee excellence in result. It's just an approval/ endorsement of the system.
The key issue is whether a student can achieve high standard, not that the school's system is being endorsed.
With the implementation of 334, all local aided and DSS schools (and their syllabus) are in trial.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-29 10:44 硐表
Li PO Chun is another issue. They already select students in such a high standard. For other schools, all in trial. Personally, still a bit worry. Seems risky ( to me).

[ 本文章最後由 owenmami 於 07-10-29 11:26 編輯 ]

15分

"high standard" you may be right.  It is hard, not easy.  Some student will prefer to take easy path (normal stream).  In western country, only the top student dare to take IB.

Trial IB is not new...HK maybe.  It is being used all around the world long long time ago, which is very famous.  If you worry about jumping from nothing and then into the last few years of IB Diploma, why don't you join the school start with PYP.  BUT, you have to work hard and earn more $$   no need to worry and take risk.

BTW, why IBO provide different level of program? and allow people to skip the entrance or lower steps.  I don't think IBO is stupid; otherwise, they can just provide an All-In-One program.  Think about the GCE (old name), HK student follow/study the syllabus of HKCEE but they still allow to take the GCE examination....same as the ABRSM, you don't have to start from Grade 1 exam...you may jump to Grade 2 or 3.

If you don't want to take risk, then you have to pay for the premium.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-29 10:44 硐表
Li PO Chun is another issue. They already select students in such a high standard. For other schools, all in trial. Personally, still a bit worry. Seems risky ( to me).

yymom07

Actually, cky is DOING IB at primary levels. Just that the principal doesn't want to acknowledge that, for various reasons: (1) her claim that the curriculum is unique to the school (that is, she's not adopting any curriculum at all, as she claims); (2) IB curriculum needs to be authorized/registered with the IB agency and that means it has to be "qualified" and "paid" which is quite a pain in the axx. My speculations.

My son is studying at ESF P1 which is pre-authorized for IB (PYP, so to speak) They have been holding various seminars "educating" the parents what the curriculum is about. And my husband went to those seminars AFTER he went to CKY information workshop and listened to Principal Lau's elaboration of her curriculum. He immediately said, "CKY is doing IB!" of course, cky emphasizes more on Chinese and that may make her curriculum unique in this sense (side issue: IB does stress on multilingualism/multiculturalism and ESF does offer many foreign language courses other than Chinese).  

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-28 23:52 硐表
My concern is "IB" more than "ECECE". The principal mentions that they plan to join "IB" in high school, ?year 10 to 12, instead of from the beginning like Victoria since the cost of joining IB is hig ...

[ 本文章最後由 yymom07 於 07-10-29 12:18 編輯 ]

WYmom

原文章由 yymom07 於 07-10-29 11:57 硐表
Actually, cky is actually DOING IB at primary levels. Just that the principal doesn't want to acknowledge that, for various reasons: (1) her claim that the curriculum is unique to the school (that is, ...

yymom07,

So are you going to switch your kid to CKY P.1 next year?

yymom07

WYmom,

mmmh, that's a difficult question.

First, we are still not sure which school is best for my son. Of course, I want him to know more chinese and that makes cky superior. But cky is a new school, no past record (I mean how well the students do in public exams, what Universities do the students go to after they graduate (I don't mean the local ones, but those in the UK and US). ESF schools do have quite glamourous records). It's a bet in this sense.

Second and most importantly, it's not the case that I want my son to go to a particular school and the principal will welcome him at the door   . We understand very well that the chance of getting in is not very high. But yes, as of now, my son will go to the interview as I believe it would be a valuable and enjoyable experience for him.

But all in all, my son is enjoying his esf school life A LOT. And I am quite sure cky can provide as enjoyable experience as in the esf. And that's where our decision lies.

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-29 12:16 硐表


yymom07,

So are you going to switch your kid to CKY P.1 next year?

[ 本文章最後由 yymom07 於 07-10-29 12:39 編輯 ]

WYmom

原文章由 yymom07 於 07-10-29 12:37 硐表
WYmom,

mmmh, that's a difficult question.

First, we are still not sure which school is best for my son. Of course, I want him to know more chinese and that makes cky superior. But cky is a new scho ...

yymom07,

Thanks for your sharing.  I am in the same boat as you, but we decide not to apply CKY.  Good luck!

Diamond

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-29 13:04 硐表


........... but we decide not to apply CKY.  Good luck!

hi~ 一直有留意你留言,以為你很喜歡CKY,想8掛下咁你最後心水係邊間?

WYmom

原文章由 Diamond 於 07-10-31 09:53 硐表


hi~ 一直有留意你留言,以為你很喜歡CKY,想8掛下咁你最後心水係邊間?

We likely choose ESF.  How about you?

Diamond

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-31 10:53 硐表


We likely choose ESF.  How about you?

ESF 唔係5歲小一咩??你意思係你小朋友已經讀緊ESF P1??

我都幾中意CKY