有無 2009 Victoria(Harbour Green) N1同學, K1 會唔會轉校?

ranicanice

bbeasy25,

Young children could adapt changes easily.  

Besides, quite a number of the children of the same age would change their schools when they are in K1.   Some of them would go to schools which they think are "better", while the others would find a more suitable school for their children.  You are in the same "boat" with them.  

What you have to consider is that if your child is suitable in studying in this school and what you want after a 3-year education.  Do you want to study in a subsidized, local school or a DSS school?  This should be placed as your prioirty when you decide which school your child is going to study in the next academic year.

There are good and bad teachers everyday.  Don't worry!

As for me, i have sent them the tuition fee of the first month.  NO Change la... but i may change when my childe is promoted to K2.

I want to wait and see if my child's character changes in the coming year.  If she is suitable in studying in a traditional kindergarten, i would let her change when she is in K2.

原帖由 bbeasy25 於 10-5-13 10:45 發表
煩惱中, Need to make desicion before 14/05. My son love teacher and go to school very much, I afraid he can't adapt new school.

ranicanice

Changes of my part: There are good and bad teachers everywhere (not everyday) .  Don't worry.

Sorry for the wrong word!!!

ranicanice

Hi jl118

I think my girl is of the same class with your girl. (the bigger children in the morning session)

Totally agree with your comments on Vic's education and teaching.

As for the assessment report, the critieria and the grading system is too general and the child's behaviour could not be accurately reported and explained.  This may mislead those (or other schools) when you apply for their K1 or K2.

Their teachers have never said anything good about my child.  This is their "practice"!!!

They just keep saying how bad our child behaves without giving their professional advice or assistance.  They only ask us, (Parents) to do something to help the child.  We surely know that is our responsibility.  But how about them? Have they done or planned anything to help the children who are in the classroom for the whole 3 hours in the morning?  

What i am thinking is they just pass the "role" to us as parents.  They do not have actual "plans" or "actions" to help their students...

I actually do not like their ways of "reporting" students' behaviour in school. "Reporting students' behaviour in school" is only one basic role of being a kindergarten teacher.  

We don't need their "report".  We need their "action"!!!

Sorry for being too direct and frank!!!

原帖由 jl118 於 10-5-15 07:32 發表

我果班(大女班)我就覺得同老師溝通只是一般，很喜歡它的報教學模式，評估就覺得太general，無乜分grade，女女果份全tick做到，但見家長時就不停同我講女女點百厭，無乜提到優點 女女係超活動形，佢班主任同我講好少女仔 ...

ranicanice

Hi

My girl also likes to attend her school.  For me, she has to be here for another year.  

If her personality suits this school or we find she does make improvement in this school, we would let her continue...

It's good to have choices ...anyway ...

i mean a choice which you prefer...

ranicanice

You are right.  We, as parents, have to accept this because this is our choice.  We need to take our responsiblity in our child's education.


"Free Play" is a kind of learning mode.  While playing, children could be able to learn as suggested by some education psychologists in the western countries.

"Structured Play" is more important while tutors or parents could facilitate children's learning at any time.  Toddlers are too young who need adults' guidance from time to time.

As parents in Hong Kong, we are practical and rational. We are happy to see children who can make "obvious" progress in their school.   

The kind of "free play" should not be over-used in learning while other methods of teaching should be more emphasised because this is the primary key learning stage for children.  

We very much hope that the school should consider this to further boost children's academic level in kindergarten education.

We should help children to develop a good and a balanced learning approach, right?

ranicanice

Hi

Boosting children's academic (knowledge/learning) level does not necessarily mean or equal to spoon-feeding approach.

There are quite a number of ways to make children learn and at the end, their "level" could be boosted.

I mean, continuous and effective assessments should be done in school to help students to learn efficiently and effectively.

Whatever it is IB or spoon-feeding or traditional Hong Kong approach, they are only an "approach" of learning.   And these are the kindergartens' "selling points"  only.


The most important thing of all is how the school and teachers motivate the students in learning and how they make students learn effectively.  

Would the teachers supervise the children's progress closely?  There must be a very clear learning assessment so that students' progress could be observed in each stage and by interpreting their progress in each stage, we could then devise other possible methods to help our children.  This is my point of view only and must be made clear here.

No matter what the learning approach is, students' learning and progress must be achieved at the end.

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-5-18 10:00 發表


其實你所講既boost academic level係乜意思？係咪串多d字定係做多d數？如果係我諗你都唔認同學校行IB了。當然除家長buy唔buy IB呢套外，亦要睇小朋友性格，有d透過啟發小朋友就能自發學懂好多嘢，但係有d小朋友又可能喜歡田 ...

ranicanice

Hi all,

A comprehensive assessment is needed for all of our children.  This is an issue which everybody (the general public) knows or should know.

There is no need to tell this to any schools because they are the most professional and educational faciltators and they fully understand the importance of this.

Here is the website for us to talk and chat only!!!  I have fully expressed my view here...ai...ai...


Plus: From my point of view, academic level is as important as other learning experience (e.g. learning to learn, logical thinking, developing interest in extra-curricular activities ...)
Poor children, they have to be trained as all-rounded persons... in this competitive world...

And poor mums, they have to be trained to teach children and help them whatever possible...

Don't worry, if you are a fan of Vic or a kindergarten teacher, no problem, you have your stance.  

And i have my standpoint.   I still think Vic is a good school, encouraging students to learn life-long.

I am trying to be objective since my girl joined their playgroup. I talked to kindergarten teachers, parents of Vic, social workers specializing chidlren psychology, occupational therapists in Hong Kong and draw a conclusion  like this..

We live in Hong Kong, a place where freedom of speech is allowed.  These are just my opinions.(very narrow-minded)

Dont' get too annoyed or angry if you are a fan of "Vic".


Sorry!!! Sorry!!!

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-5-18 10:58 發表


同意，由其是Vic的教學模式需貫切至家庭日常生活中，一個清晰的assessement老師和家長才可互相合作持續改進小朋友的表現。你有冇同學校反映過？

另外我想提一吓唔係識幾多字或做到幾多數就係good academic呢 ...

ranicanice

Hi Christi,

You are so objective in explaining what our children in Hong Kong need in the key learning stage.

"Academic " might mean how you make good use of your learning strategies such as learning how to explore, analyse ...and apply this in your daily learning experience or in the lessons /exams at school.

The basic element should be  - you have a heart/motivation to learn.  (Vic can surely do it!!!)

More important things that follow: How we (parents/schools) consolidate their learning experience so that they acheive a considerably good academic result.

There are two class teachers in Vic: one is a HK lady, and another is a NET.  If your child is good in English or likes English very much, there will be plenty of time / chances for your child to talk or respond to the NET as the NET would be in the classroom for a total of 3 hours.

Of course, if your child is a person who always takes the initiative or the responsibility to do things or talk, learning would always be fun and fruitful in the "free play" learning environment.

Or if you, as a mum, have sufficient time to tutor your child at home to collaborate with the school, facilitating your child's learning, everything will be fine.

原帖由 Christi 於 10-5-18 15:20 發表
各位的回應令我對問題的理解更清晰.

我一直認為,"玩" 對小朋友(BABY TO TODDLER STAGE)可以說是很重要/甚至很神聖的一個字.對他們來說,玩=學習,學習=玩.小朋友首先要覺得這件事好玩,他才會有興趣去知多一點.當他有 ...

ranicanice

Yes, you are right to a certain extent if we apply K1.

But, then how about K2? At least, the other schools would have a "look" at the assessment report.

You know, children's performance may vary from time to time.  The performance in the interview may not truly reflect children's personality and abilities.

Another important point is: This is a life-long record.  Even not too many people would pay attention to it, to be fair and objective, the assessment should be done seriously and comprehensively.

This is the principle we, as civilized and modern people should adhere.

原帖由 twinsstar 於 10-5-18 17:54 發表
no worry .. i don't think the school will look at the "assessment results" of N1 / even K1 when you apply other schools. They focus on interview performane more!

  

ranicanice

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-5-18 16:38 發表


想請教吓點解你用"free play" 而不是"structured play"呢？因為"free play"好似係任由小朋友隨意玩，我B而家在IS就是這樣，我覺得不是很好，但老師話N1這樣最好，K1就開始不一樣wo... ...

Hi,

What i mean "free play" is letting children to choose what they have to learn / do in the classroom.
You are right.

"Free play" should not be emphasised in classroom learning as students may form a bad habit of learning, choosing whatever they want to do.


In a group activity, children should be "trained" to stay in the group, trying to get involved in the activity even they are not very interested in it.

Clear "limits" or "rules" should be taught to children so that they would not always walk away from the group activity.

ranicanice

"Letting children to walk around, choosing whatever they want to do " does not equal to "Learning to explore".  This should not be wrongly interpreted.

Children can learn to explore in many ways, but not in this way.

原帖由 ranicanice 於 10-5-20 16:10 發表




Hi,

What i mean "free play" is letting children to choose what they have to learn / do in the classroom.
You are right.

"Free play" should not be emphasised in classroom learning as students may  ...

ranicanice

Motivating students to learn, training students to learn things or wait patiently which they may not have interest in , and getting unmotiviated students involved in the activity are the basic teaching duties.

If your children are lucky enough, you will have good teachers like this...helping children whatever they can...thinking ways to help ...

I repeat: Hong Kong is a place where freedom of speech is enjoyed under the law.  This is a value we should treasure.

Being a responsible and open-minded child educator, or a worker, he or she should be ready to accept different opinions and adjust their teaching pedagogies...

原帖由 ranicanice 於 10-5-20 16:13 發表
"Letting children to walk around, choosing whatever they want to do " does not equal to "Learning to explore".  This should not be wrongly interpreted.

Children can learn to explore in many ways, but ...

ranicanice

原帖由 mrshoho 於 10-5-31 23:11 發表
so, will your son/daughters continue to study K1 at Victoria Harbour Green?

Hi mrshoho,

Yes, my baby will continue to study K1 at HG.

Is there anything to share with us?

ranicanice

原帖由 brrbaby2007 於 10-6-1 11:58 發表


Hi ranicanice, 可否分享吓Vic有甚麼吸引你留下呢？另外，唔知你有冇睇到我係另一個post reply你關于free play的問題我比較擔心，請問老師有冇跟進改善？謝謝！

響另一個post見到HG收左你囡囡，恭起你 ...

Hi brrbaby2007,


你也很緊貼Vic 的動態喎!

首先, 謝謝你的恭賀.

I have read your reply.  It's good to communicate with each other and understand each other's point of view by raising questions and giving responses.  I have actually thought my child's education in-depth since having my views posted in this website.

Regarding the continual of education in Vic, I do want to see if my child would like to study in this school for another year. If this is really suitable for her, she would complete her kindergarten schooling in this school.

she is quite a "special" girl who has her own way of seeing things.  If i put her in traditional schools, sitting there in the classrooms, reading books, reciting poems, rhymes, songs, she might lack motivation to learn.  She would see this as a kind of "suppression".

One of my friend's girl who once studied in a traditional school has become a passive, quiet girl. But actually, this girl is very clever and is happy to interact with adults and classmates.

ranicanice

Hi,

As for the follow-up work done by the teacher, the only thing that i could see is they keep calling parents about the recent happenings of their children.  They need "us" to help the children, for example giving extra tutorial classes (attending training sessions outside) to them so that they would follow instructions in class things like that...

They said they have done something in class for example asking students to sit down and complete the work first before moving to another game table ...

Whether this is effective or not is a question.

原帖由 ranicanice 於 10-6-1 14:34 發表



Hi brrbaby2007,


你也很緊貼Vic 的動態喎!

首先, 謝謝你的恭賀.

I have read your reply.  It's good to communicate with each other and understand each other's point of view by raising questions and ...

ranicanice

Hi,

If you remember what i've said before, if your child is smart, and like to follow what the teachers' have said, there will not be many problems in a classroom like this.

To be fair, we, as parents, have the responsiblity to help our children.

It is difficult for teachers to care all children's needs.

原帖由 ranicanice 於 10-6-1 14:40 發表
Hi,

As for the follow-up work done by the teacher, the only thing that i could see is they keep calling parents about the recent happenings of their children.  They need "us" to help the children, fo ...