關於IB的疑問

ANChan59

DBS and SPCC provide Pre-IB at Grade 10 and then IBDP for Grade 11-12.

Even DBS and SPCC worry about the gap between local curriculum and IBDP, so they offer Pre-IB to upgrade their students for IBDP. So many schools claimed to run IBDP, but the strategy and progress not align with IBDP.

ANChan59

I am looking forward to see how CKY's IBDP examination results compare with DBS and SPCC.

CKY - claimed IB approach from day 1 and go straight to IBDP without Pre-IB; teachers are local and or from overseas??

DBS - Pre-IB before IBDP, most teachers from overseas like UK, US, New Zealand, Columbia etc plus some trained local teachers.

SPCC - Pre-IB before IBDP, most teachers are local plus some from overseas.

DBS and SPCC put in Pre-IB before IBDP and ensure the length of study also 3 years, exactly the same as NSS. The Pre-IB needs students study more subjects than IBDP to assist students to choose the right subjects for IBDP.

DBS offered 56 seats for both DBS and outside boys. This year more top 30 boys picked IB instead of NSS after seeing that the good progress of Pre-IB.

Go back to LPCUWC, old system 5 yrs (F1-5) + 2 yrs (IBDP) = 7 years. DBS & SPCC 3 yrs + Pre-IB + 2 yrs IBDP = 6 years.

I am not sure CKY, can any one share how it works in CKY?

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 10-7-15 15:41 編輯 ]

ANChan59

I copy my sharing in High School sub-forum, I guess some of you may interested in it.

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My son studies in a local DSS (直資學校) school which provided both NSS (新高中) & IB curriculum (國際文憑課程). Our family spent quite some time to evaluate the pros and cons of both curriculum and the admission of Universities and other considerations. I would like to share with you all here, only my personal experience.

Background

The school just offers the bridging course of IBDP (國際文憑課程). this school year and no track record of IBDP (國際文憑課程). and even unauthorized in IBO (國際文憑組織). website (Now, being authorized). The tuition fee will be nearly double for IB stream relative to NSS stream. First year only recruit max 60 students, but only 45 places filled as they only accept the top students and excellent command of English to take IBDP (國際文憑課程). (top 80 out of 240 form ranking).

Our concerns:

1. JUPAS (聯招) vs Non-JUPAS (非聯招)

75% university places for JUPAS and only 25% for non-JUPAS (after further review, 25% is max for CityU, other Us from 10-20%, in case you want to know exactly, pls check each university's admission section.). So the chance seems to be higher for JUPAS. I did some research on LPCUWC (李寶春聯合國際書院) and some ESF (英基學校)and IS (國際學校) schools' university admission results in the last few years (Most IS & ESF schools didn't disclose much of their IB results and university admission results, my wild guess their results not impressive.) LPCUWC - 2009 May IB results average 37.16, HK students average 39.29, overseas student’s average 35.13 and the max will be 45 and passing score is 24. Most ESF and IS's IB average less than 32. LPCUWC IB results with flying colors and 82% students study in HK get into Big 3 (港大、中大、科大) in HK and the subjects are impressive like Medicine, Law, Architecture, Business. If my son's IB results comparative to the bright students of LPCUWC, his chance gets into Big 3 for hot subjects may be higher than JUPAS stream.

2. Curriculum (課程)

NSS has some changes in the curriculum like introducing Liberal Studies (通識) , OLE (其他學習經驗), M1 (統計) & M2 (微積分) on top of core Maths. But the examination papers standard close to A-level. It's easier for teachers, students and tuition centers as most HKCEE (會考) and A-level past papers still valid for them. IB has the curriculum but not very popularly known and sometimes their scope close to 1st year University level, but not in the IB examination. Broad curriculum and not as structural as NSS.

3. Work load

Heavy loading in continuous assessment, many projects, presentation, essay writing, lab work etc. it's very demanding in time management and discipline. Some students even as boarders to save their daily travelling time to meet the deadline. Relative to NSS students, they are still "Hea" and wait for the last year to burn the mid-light oil.

4. Top notch universities

I participated two seminars from Cambridge and Oxford Universities' Admission Officer in HK last October/November. Particularly Cambridge recognized the HKAL, but not for HKDSE (香港文憑試). So he recommended students want to study in Cambridge either study Pre-U schools in UK or go for IB, 38-41 will have a chance for interview and depends on individual college requirement (I won't elaborate college system here.). As A* in HKDSE not equivalent to A* in GCE AL, HK students' chance to study elite universities in UK will be slim. That's why more students study in UK for high school.

5. HK/USA/UK

My son not makes up his mind to study in which regions, IB can be one fits all except some US universities may need SAT or other exam to prove your English proficiency. Pls better check the admission requirement of individual university.

6. Exam expert v Life time learner

No definitely preference, sometimes excellent exam results are essential for further studying and career advancement. If exam upset your kid to study, you need to rethink. (Too much work load may also upset my son).

Tactics to achieve IBDP Bridging Program ((國際文憑銜接課程). place in my son's school

1. Excellent command of English

In IBDP, teacher supposes not teaching grammar or basic English, they focus on literature critique. My son not from the primary division of the school, so may not up to the par of their requirement. So we sent him to a very good English class to polish his English writing skills. Not matter he can get in IBDP or not, his English standard improves a lot in this year.

2. Form ranking

My son reviews his handicaps in continuous assessment and examination results of certain subjects. His final ranking not announce yet, but definitely within top 80.


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ANChan59

Thanks for your detail explanation about CKY's structure and teacher profile on IB.

Quick comments:

1. CKY- 5-5-2 with IGCSE as back up, so Pre-IB just like the Grade 10 in CKY.

2. ESF - offers both GCE and IB at the same time, I am not sure about the split of the students. As we aware GCE AL is easier than IB, so only those elite students will go for IB. If CKY can comparable to ESF, it's a good result compare with the overall IB standard.

As a matter of fact, we may wait for another 3 years and then we can see the final throughput.

ANChan59

ESF - KGV, SIS, WIS have both GCE AL and IBDP. May be changed in the future, not now.

ANChan59

Thanks for your info related to ESF. Be honest, it's not my focus. My focus more on the difference between NSS & IBDP. As my son opt for IBDP by himself, I did my job.

Also, here is mainly for Primary students/parents. Our discussions may off the topic, I will stop here.

Bye.