港IB考生平均分超全球 英基加拿大國際漢基包攬7滿分狀元

mattsmum

He must take Chinese under group A, not B, that is what I was told, but I need to confess, I am yet to read the original document from ibo.

Children can take French or Japanese if their Chinese is not good after 6 years study.

mattsmum

I discussed with an ib Chinese teacher months ago, what he said ewas similar to what I read from somebody's web site( I lost the web site information, the credit goes to that website.):

A1 語言是目前DP這個科組的叫法，從2011年起，第一組科目會有重大改變，2013年起開辦考試。下學年開始唸DP的學生就可以有以下三科選擇：

i.  “語言A -- 文學”---- 類似現時“A1語言”那樣的科目。

ii. “語言A  -- 語言及文學”----- 跟現時在第2科組（第二語言）中的“A2語言”很相似， 即較“A1語言”少一點文學元素，較多研讀其他類型的寫作，但同樣需要理解分析的技巧，而且需要分析不同情境（context）對文章意義的影響（例如宣傳跟學術的寫作有何不同等）。

iii.“文學及表演”----- 可作第一或第六科組（藝術）的科目。會只開標準課程，探討文學與戲劇的關係，特別是要研究文本的細節，探討當中的“轉化”（ transformation），應較適合有戲劇訓練根底的學生。

2.       第二語言 ---- 重點要求是學生能夠在不同用途上，運用所選的語言。目前這科組主要有三個不同科目：

i.  “初學”（只可考標準程度）---- 學生須在DP之前沒有讀過這語文。

ii. “B語言” ---- 學生在DP之前，已開始學習了一段時間。2011年起，“B語言”課程會有更清晰的核心主題，作爲語言（包括詞彙、風格等）及文化學習的基礎。屆時，高等程度則會加入兩部文學作品。重點是培養語言及文化之間的溝通能力。

iii.“A2語言”---- 語言加上文學的課程，為已有相當程度的學生而設。但2012年的考試之後，“A2語言”將從這個科組消失。

mattsmum

I really don't know, my son said the whole class would have to take Chinese and English in A group.

I fond a website with pass papers, which I had tried to find and check out their exam content, maybe we should all check out the ibo website and gather more information and share here:Www.freeexampapers.com

mattsmum

thanks for the googled document, also look at the past papers to figure out how difficult or easy chinese can be.

WYmom

According to the new changes, Chinese students will have to choose both English A and Chinese A in Group 1, then must they choose another language B in group 2?  Very confusing!

mattsmum

http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/ecy_y/article?mid=1030

the hk part of the story.

ANChan59

原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-7-25 22:19 發表
http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/ecy_y/article?mid=1030

the hk part of the story.

It will be outdated for our kids in 2013 afterward.

My son sent emails to HKU, CUHK and HKUST to ask their requirement of IB languages in 2013, they have no clue what's going on and only CUHK admission office officially replied to him, keep in A SL/HL in Chinese & English, don't opt for B.

You may ask what's the answers from other two, they asked my son to check from the website. Then my son told him the change of syllabus and not reflected in the website, then they can't further answer his question.

mattsmum

That article did discuss the coming change, the  important message is the current arrangement :

Baptish U
For IB Diploma applicants, Score 4 or above out of 7 in IB English A1 or A2 (Higher or Standard Level) is regarded as equivalent to Grade D AS Use of English ."

That is the current bench mark which can only behigher I think.

[ 本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 11-7-25 23:06 編輯 ]

mattsmum

The ibo document said you can choose both from group 1:"choose one from group 1, one from group 1  or group 2"

ANChan59

Score 4 is the passing score for IB, be honest, nothing exciting.

I am thinking English in Group 2, A SL in Literature and Language Study; Chinese in Group 1, B. He may score Chinese 7 and English 6..... to maximise the score..

mattsmum

"The question is whether there is a rule saying that if a student has been studying a language for x number of years, then he can only choose the second language from group 1.'

can't find this in the ibo document, but heard about this from teachers, should ask them as they are the professional.

the options are possible. A friend's child selected english + italian ( studied for 2 years) and got bilingual diploma.

mattsmum

from earlier discussion:"先更正資料，剛在看那學校網頁，學生今年 ENGLISH A 的 NORM 是 5 (舊年才是 4)，不好意思。不過，我也覺得這個成績令人很困惑"

i am confused too, checking the pass paper to see the difference.

foolish.mom

Please note that in CIS, only 9 students out of >100 took A1 in Chinese.  The other >90% still took A1 HL or SL in English.  I guess that most of the 9 students joined CIS after grade 9 or even grade 11.

Heard from another parent in CIS that the school recommended her son to take A2 in Chinese in IBDP (He was all the way in Chinese 1st language in MYP). Her son convinced the school to let him switched to Mandarin B HL. The reasons are simple: 1. he can get high score (most likely 7 in Mandarin B), 2. he can concentrate his time in other subjects. If he stays in Chinese A2, he may get a 5, or luckily a 6 if he spends much effort. A difference in 2 points may be critical for the type of U admitted.

mattsmum

i don't know but there are lots of pass papers from IB to uk's 11+ 13+ exam papers, i had downloaded a number of them already, hope it is fine for my computer. i had been trying to find chinese past paper but difficult, almost impossible to find.

ANChan59

Two tips from my boy's teacher:

1. Her recommendation - study any language more than 3 years, aim for A and not B.
2. Different programs and different universities have different preference, send email to them to get official answers.

My son did (2) for HKU, CUHK and HKUST for language requirements.