點解小一第一次英文默書要默咁多?

wongkaka

點解小一第一次英文默書要默咁多? 唔係個個小朋友都英文底子咁好

What is your name ?
My name is XXX.
How old are you ?
I am six years old.
How are you ?
I am fine, thank you.
Nice to meet you.
Hi / Hello
Good morning
Good afternoon
Goodbye
a monitor
a classmate
a group leader
a class teacher
a English teacher

motherotk

Dictation works well for some kids, even the dictation have no meanings at all, e.g. only words, or even difficult words, a challenge for some kids with really excellent spelling competencies, good foundation of phonics.

However, not all kids engage well with phonics (personally I hate phonic myself when I grew up), not all kids feel interest to challenge difficult words (some do, I know).

So, dictation should be designed with meaningful ways. For example, dictation on beautiful poem, simple, managable, meaningful to kids, up to their cognitive levels. Chinese pomes, some English children's poems, that will be fun and meaningful.

I know some people motivate for memorizing articles or writings from Eng. Lit., good for some kids, but also pain for some other kids.

If you kid is ok, can push them for more, if your kid is not ok (at that moment only), just wait and find someother ways to cope, don't compare on how many words we have every day for kids, that's meaningless for the kid's learning.

The only answer you will find is to ask yourself, is the way meaningful to your kids' learning, if yes, go ahead, if not, stop it as soon as possible to avoid disasters.

Kids are different, parents are different, no definite answers.

This topic let me think of one small story in my secondary school years. One of my classmates memorize the whole oxford english dictationary during summer. We were surprised how she did it, and of course the English teacher was impressive on what she did such an excellent job! Turn out the HKCEE, she only get a grade below C for English. I did not understand why at that time, how this wonderful girl, hard working girl deserve this result. Now I understand more on that, I will never asked my kid to do any learning, which is meaningless to them.

It's not about numbers of words, it about does this make sense to your kid? if it is not making any sense, just drop it as soon as possible to find  right ways of learning and teachings.

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 11-10-12 18:13 編輯 ]

gotgot

樓主你阿囡第一次默書好似我個囡係外面學英文班第一次默書的一部份內容!而家英文班默書句子加詞語已有7,80句!
我個囡學校第一次英默都要默3課課文,中文都係默三課,每課有8句句子,每句約有6個字,總共要讀24句,即默144個字!
平日溫書(英文),如學了phonics同之前背了好多sight words都對溫默書好有幫助,至少背少好多sight words,不過發現學校默書真係好多生字,學校功課又多,所以要每日溫少少,唔可以好似以前咁臨默前1,2日先開始溫!

motherotk

Dictation may benefit some kids, (e.g. some kids will use 15m have 100 marks), may destroy other kids (some kids will never be ok to do that with 1 hour revision, pain for parents and pain for kids), totally destroy their confidence, create mental health problems and induce mental health problems in some parents.

It's school's responsibilty to take care of diversified needs of children as they are only children that needs nurturing of educational professionals who are trained to take care of the learning needs of children.

It's parents' responsiblity to take care and to understand your kid, who are different from others and may have special concern and talents that you can help to address or to enlighten them.

Most dangerous schools:

only cater the needs of the "smart kids", imposed unreasonable learning demands due to their own selfish goals, want to compete with other schools! If your kids is not that "smart" in their standard, you have to face the realities as soon as possible, don't give yourself a myth!!

Most disaster situation for children:

teachers and parents comparing kids with others unreasonbly (reasonable comparison is ok), unable to face realities that your kids' learning needs may not fit this school

No definite answer to yes or no if the dictation is too many or two few or up to the standard...

[ 本帖最後由 motherotk 於 11-10-11 13:37 編輯 ]

wongkaka

感激你真心的分享, 我知我的方向了!!! 感謝天主給我認識你們的小天使!!!!

原帖由 eviepa 於 11-10-10 23:54 發表
串字的效能有多大，大家可以參考一下小弟的：

《原來所有籃球高手，打羽毛球、乒乓球都極之好？》
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2336885&extra=page%3D1

看看同不同意我的觀點。 ...

eviepa

串字的效能有多大，大家可以參考一下小弟的：

《原來所有籃球高手，打羽毛球、乒乓球都極之好？》
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/vie ... &extra=page%3D1

看看同不同意我的觀點。

阿信

咁對於呢D所謂''名牌''學校黎講
成績係好好好好好重要
你背唔到就背唔到
背唔到就搞到默書成績低
成績低??班主任就要同學生家長傾傾啦!
呢D學校要你背係要你記到老!
SO記憶都好重要!!!

miriam

以下係我囡囡小一第一次英默範圍, 人地話多, 我就覺得正常, 全部都係課文入面既野, 寫過晒生字, 唔算太難.

1.        a headmaster
2.        a headmistress
3.        a class teacher
4.        a monitor
5.        an English teacher
6.        a classroom
7.        a friend
8.        a classmate
9.        a group leader
10.        my
11.        our
12.        school
13.        bus driver

1.        This is Ben.
2.        He is my friend.
3.        This is Emma.
4.        She is our monitor.
5.        We are in Class 1A.
6.        Thank you very much.

阿信

老師唔會讀
學生自己心裹讀自己默
不過默之前係要學生讀熟課文
間學校唔會同你默 HELLO HOW ARE YOU 呢D短句  因為佢地預左你讀呢間學校就已經識哂呢D簡單野
所以佢地一黎就背默全課!!

wister

有demand先會有supply,呢d係個人選擇,有d mama又like 呢d ga wo...

sampapa

Dictation of kid's school is very light.
Now is P3, since P1, just 20 words only, NO Sentence.
All words extracted from school base text book, no any extra or new word.
Schedule is one times per month.

阿信

我想講!!!你呢個情況已經好好!!
我見過英文第1次默書係要背默全課!!!

ymama

我女女以前間學校仲顛!!!

第一次是UNSEEN, 根本不能預備, 一默是10句句子, 我記得共中一句是: My family go to church every sunday.

第二次是三頁課文, 默的時候老師會重新組合句子, 不會跟書一樣.我印象最深刻其中一句是:(中文意思:一年有12個月, 一月,二月,三月..........十二月)
There are twelve months........