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有perfect pitch對學音樂的好與壞 [複製鏈接]

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6493
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發表於 11-10-21 23:28 |只看該作者
但其實perfect pitch(先天)是不是有別於relative pitch(後天). According to wiki:

Relative pitch :
Many musicians have quite good relative pitch, a skill which can be learned. With practice, it is possible to listen to a single known pitch once (from a pitch pipe or a tuning fork) and then have stable, reliable pitch identification by comparing the notes heard to the stored memory of the tonic pitch.[71] Unlike absolute pitch, this skill is dependent on a recently perceived tonal center.

...Individuals may possess both absolute pitch and relative pitch ability in varying degrees. Both relative and absolute pitch work together in actual musical listening and practice, although individuals exhibit preferred strategies in using each skill.

原帖由 ilovethiscow 於 11-10-21 11:18 發表
其實有好多只係後天練習的perfect pitch..

其實perfect pitch 只是你的記憶 記熟了每一個音...

所以.... 很多小朋友後天練習也可以練成perfect pitch...

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6493
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發表於 11-10-21 23:33 |只看該作者
wiki還有一部份是講perfect pitch 與musical talent的關係:

Correlation with musical talent

Absolute pitch(即perfect pitch) is not a prerequisite for skilled musical performance or composition. Although musicians with absolute pitch may perform better on certain tasks such as transcription,

no test yet exists for comprehensively and objectively measuring the influence of absolute pitch ability on musicianship.

Owing to uncertainty in the historical record, it is often impossible to determine whether notable composers and musicians had absolute pitch. Since absolute pitch is rare in European musical culture,

claims that any particular musician possessed it are difficult to evaluate. Among composers of the Baroque and Classical eras, evidence is available only for Mozart, who is documented to have demonstrated the ability at age 3.





Experts have only surmised that Beethoven had it, as indicated from some excerpts from his letters. By the 19th century, it became more common for the presence of absolute pitch to be recorded, identifying the ability to be present in musicians such as Camille Saint-Saëns and John Philip Sousa.

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發表於 11-10-22 01:32 |只看該作者
有perfect pitch的人聽見的音符是彩色的,他們從初接觸音樂就顯露這能力,機乎不需訓練和思考,就可輕而易舉地說出音名。經後天訓練的,是通過牢記某一音高,例如c,然後再比較與該音的音程,而找出音名。

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發表於 11-10-22 14:03 |只看該作者
原帖由 Christi 於 11-10-19 22:34 發表
老師有冇作出修正?



修正????

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發表於 11-10-22 14:42 |只看該作者
原帖由 ilovethiscow 於 11-10-18 13:44 發表
因為佢地睇住個C 音... 但係吹出黎果個唔係 concert C.... 會覺得好困惑的~~~

perfect pitch 就是 你聽到個音就知道是那一個音~

係呀!我會覺得好煩,好辛苦

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6493
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發表於 11-10-22 17:39 |只看該作者
你說:she read score just by memorize the place of the note.我想問咁老師有沒有/如何幫手改善她這個問題.


原帖由 steamball 於 11-10-22 14:03 發表


修正????

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8904
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發表於 11-10-22 17:45 |只看該作者
why this a problem??? also a method of read score ar

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6493
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發表於 11-10-22 17:52 |只看該作者
啊...那我是誤會了你的意思.因為我以為你對於她不肯學space-line而感苦惱,所以咪問吓你,老師有冇幫手...:loveliness:

原帖由 steamball 於 11-10-22 17:45 發表
why this a problem??? also a method of read score ar

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發表於 11-10-22 17:53 |只看該作者
ic, only she's quite young, don't want to push her, haha
P.S. i am lazy ma
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