IB provisional result 2012

Shootastar

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Dear liyinfai

The average score of ISF is 32.8 point, not 32.8%. The world average is 29.83 points. It has 4 students whose score is 40 or above. Its passing rate is 95% (world figure is 78%).

I agree that if you compare this figure with DBS or other established international schools in Hong Kong such as CIS, LPC or ESF, the average score is lower than theirs. However, bearing in mind that this figure is generated by the first class, I am impressed by its result.

annie40

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聽說Chinese a 拿5分的， 可能在Chinese b可以拿7分
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Chinese A (SL) 的paper 比Chinese B (HL) 难很多, 上网查passpaper 一看便知!

annie40

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ISF 都係開咗9年，成績都係較弱，RC的成績要多幾年先比較有指標，唯有繼續觀望。
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今年ISF报考IBD的只不过是20人, 当年由第一班preparation class 升读的学生, 可能在中途已经走光了.  而中学部又收回不少LS和国内新来转读的孩子, 基本不是百分百ISF产品, 2012年有此成绩, 可算是十分有交代了.

其实ISF十分努力, 资源丰富, 如英文科能突围而出, 三五年后, 超于其他IS是不难的!

Littleho

ISF has extensive scholarship program while other IS does not have . So, are many of ISF graduates (especially those with good grades)  under the scholarship program ? This could lift the overall average score .

Jane1983

據知VSA都會用full scholarship，每年幾十個，全免學費至畢業，以招收成績超好的貧苦學生，以打響招牌。佢個scholarship仲係吳接受維記幼稚園生申請，成績再好都吳益你。

liyinfai

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I feel very happy after reading annie40 comment on ISF. ISF is one of the unique school which has strength in both languages plus, an international-approach global school (the school emphasize ISF is not an international school), with an encouraging , at least not bad IB results.

annie40

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ISF has extensive scholarship program while other IS does not have . So, are many of ISF graduates (especially those with good grades)  under the scholarship program ? This could lift the overall average score .
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Oh, not only ISF provides scholarship.  In my knowledge those IS with extensive scholarship include CIS, FIS, Discovery College, HKIS and maybe more.  By the way, ISF's annual school bus fee is over HK$10,000.- , at least 40% over other IS.  I don't think those good brain , no money kids would be attracted to their scholarship easily.  So better forget to check it out and count it as a possible element.

michellebaby

2012年07月12日 星期四
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男拔首屆IB 平均38分超全球, 校方：重學習動機 高分欠自律拒收:http://www.hket.com/eti/article/ ... 0e337ee18533-555539



國際預科文憑（IB、International Baccalaureate）上周五放榜，首年有學生應考的拔萃男書院，平均分達38分，高於全球平均29.83分；一人考得45分滿分，獲美國普林斯頓大學取錄，6成考獲入讀劍橋、牛津大學基本要求的38分或以上。

校方表示，IB課程重視學習動機，要求學生自律及妥善管理時間，坦言有成績優秀但學習性向不符的學生，會被拒諸門外。

全球IB考生今年平均分為29.83分，比去年低2.07分，僅約0.2%考生考獲45分滿分；33名男拔的首屆IB學生，平均考得38分，其中45分狀元沃澤鈞將赴美國普林斯頓大學攻讀經濟及金融，考獲44分的劉劻昀及何慶達，則分別於中文大學及香港大學攻讀醫科。

創意批判主動 取錄關鍵
9月上任男拔校長的現任副校長鄭基恩昨表示，對首屆IB學生成績感滿意，指學生的主動性及老師投入教學為培育狀元關鍵；他稱，25人的教學團隊中，一半為外籍教師，擴闊學生國際視野，亦有助學生考取好成績。鄭基恩稱，不能比較本地新高中課程或IB課程，哪個對升學前景更有利，學生選課程應視乎其學習動機及升學意向，而校內老師會就學生的性格特質作建議；而學術成績並非校方取錄IB課程學生主要考慮，其主動性、創意及批判思考能力才是關鍵。

男拔經濟科教師兼訓導主任胡家麟解釋，學生學習動機非常重要，除了6科應考學科外，學生亦要兼顧課程鼓勵創意及社會服務的課外活動（CAS，即Creativity, Action, Service）部分，以及撰寫知識理論（TOK，即Theory Of Knowledge）論文，必須主動、自律及妥善管理時間。他直言，有成績優秀學生報讀IB，但學習性向並不符合，都被校方拒諸門外。

棄填鴨教育 赴笈拓眼界
滿分狀元沃澤鈞稱，IB課程的老師會教導自己撰寫報考海外大學的個人簡歷，有助海外升學；考獲43分的羅元暉亦認為，本地教育制度較着重背誦，部分學生難在填鴨制度下覓得出路。
個性外向、喜愛參加課外活動的羅憶述，中一時老師曾根據本地課程教他以英文作文，必須背誦「小明要於某一處境下做某些事」，他質疑小明為何一定要這樣，其後他寫自己想寫的文章，終考不到好成績，一度被勸告放棄課外活動。

最後，他根據性向報讀IB課程，認為課程容許學生有個人觀點，亦能繼續參加不同課外活動。羅元暉如今獲倫敦大學學院法律系取錄，經深思熟慮後，他認為自己最想修讀的還是國際關係，現決定先休學一年，到歐洲各地考察政治體制，再報讀相關課程。
撰文:吳淑珊

tingtingting

Given that quite a few top students in this first cohort of ISF left ISF for CIS and ESF after grade 10 (common phenomenon for a completely new school with no record), the ISF results indeed exceed my expectation.  With 4 of the 23 students achieving 40+, 80% of the students getting a bilingual diploma, and a mean score of 5.91 for both English A and Chinese A, it seems that the school's double language programme is working.  Let's see how ISF will fare further down the road.

liyinfai

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Dear Tingtingting,
Do you know what is the number of ISF candidates sitting for IB exam next year?
Do you know the "student turnover rate" to other International Schools in higher grade ISF class?
Thanks a lot

bobbycheung

I might be the odd man out, but I expect more from ISF.

Let's compare the IB results of the 3 schools that did IB for the 1st time.

                           ISF                DBS             CSS

Number of           23                 33                58
Students

Average              32.8              38                32
Score

40 points             17.4%          33.3%          8.6%
or more

The gap between the results of ISF and DBS are huge, but one may say it's unfair to compare them because DBS' IB students are "double selective".  

Comparing the results of ISF and CSS might be more meangful.  Their average scores are about the same.  ISF has 17.4% (4 students) of its students getting 40 points or above while CSS only has 8.6% (5 students) getting it.  As we are taking about a relatively small number of students in each group, the difference in result between the 2 groups doesn't appear to be that big.  However, we must not forget that the school fee of ISF is $160K (excluding the capital levy and capital note etc) while CSS's school fee is only $82K.  If we are to take into account the finance resources put in by each school, I think it's fair to say that parents of ISF should be entitled to expect more from the school.  

tingtingting

I'm not saying that exam result is not important (of course it is), but there are not many schools that offer a truly bilingual immersion programme and at the  same time offers a curriculum that is so diverse. In fact, I cannot think of another school that spends two months on the cultural revolution and be so critical of the modern history of China, and at the same time teaches Homer and 詩經 with so much enthusiasm.

tingtingting

But he way, speaking only for myself, I want my son to be an IB35 Renaissance man than an IB45.

liyinfai

so Tingtingting, what grade is your son studying ?

ANChan59

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We need to be patience for new schools and new programs....

tingtingting

At the risk of sounding like an ISF apologist, I shall add that ISF does truly embrace diversity. Students who love design and dream to be the next Frank Lloyd Wright can make full use of the first class design tech lab and are encouraged to pursue their dreams; drama lovers can hide themselves in the black box theatre learning everything about sound and lighting. Embracing diversity, accepting difference, seeing not just one but many different ways to success, and being open to the meaning of success, isn't it exactly the purpose of education? In any event, I am confident that in three or four years' time when the first batch of students who have the full benefit of ISF education leave the school, they will wow the world and silence those who doubt the bilingual immersion programme.

tingtingting

原帖由 liyinfai 於 12-07-13 發表
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Dear Tingtingting,

Dear liyinfai, I don't have any figures. As for the turnover rate, as you can imagine, the best students who can easily get into CIS and Sevenoaks have chosen to leave instead of taking a risk with a new school. Quite a number of parents I know take a wait and see attitude. "Why not? If things do not turn out fine, we can always leave. But, for the time being let the kid learn more Chinese and find out more about real Chinese culture", that's kind of the attitude shared by some parents (myself included to a certain extent). I expect the turnover rate to drop as the school becomes more established.

Jane1983

其實好多對ISF的批評，部分係因為佢學校實在貴，foundation
 year一個月要~12000元，當然要看是否物有所值。如果佢係ESF和CAIS的價錢，大家一定寛容好多。

bobbycheung

ANChan59 發表於 12-7-13 23:31
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We need to be patience for new schools and new programs....

I agree.  But in practice, if your kid is one of those who are taking the IB exam this year, it would be very difficult to remain patient as any significant improvement in a few years' time will not really benefit your kid.   Anyway, I am just commenting on the IB result alone.  As tingtingting rightly pointed out, there could very well be other benefits in studying in ISF that are not yet reflected in the IB results and which are valued by the parents more than anything else.   

ANChan59

bobbycheung 發表於 12-7-14 00:19
I agree.  But in practice, if your kid is one of those who are taking the IB exam this year, it woul ...

Point taken.