Which international schools have less than 50% Chinese?

Jane1983

選學校，教育理念係考慮，語言環境亦係重要，亦好睇家庭比到什麼補給，以及小朋友性情。

如果家庭裏，父或母講native english，小朋友即使讀local school，英文亦能達到高水平。但如果屋企提供吾到語境，吾讀IS，英文好難講得好好。

hkparent

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-02-27 發表
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Yes, I mean any student who can speak native English (not only accent, but daily social native English) is fine, regardless of ethnic group, but of course without Indian or Korean accent.

紅紅

原帖由 hkparent 於 15-02-27 發表
Many local new schools are adopting a curriculum or teaching method similar to IS, but at much lower ...

本地比較活動教學的學校我有考慮過，但經過不同的本地教師提醒後放棄了。始終是跟本地話程考本地公開試和評估，外國那一套方法夾硬套入去其實格格不入，不如直接讀主流的好過。

紅紅

原帖由 Jane1983 於 15-02-27 發表
選學校，教育理念係考慮，語言環境亦係重要，亦好睇家庭比到什麼補給，以及小朋友性情。

如果家庭裏，父或 ...

所以我是個人睇法，student mix對我真的不重要，因為如你所說，我家
是主要英文溝通，因為爸爸是外國人。當然同時我亦不覺得希望得到英文語境的家長有問題，每人有不同期望。但IS本身也是用英語教學吧。

bobbycheung

其實係唔係Chinese都無嘜 relevance. 好似電視上見到嘅陳明恩, 外表百份百係鬼妺, 但係香港出世及長大, d廣東話同大家嘅無分別. 除咗個殼之外, 同Chinese一様. 仲有乔宝宝同埋其他大把例子. 掉返轉頭, 父母係Chinese, 但唔識中文或完全西化嘅又大把. 依d人除咗個殻係 Chinese之外, 其實無一忽係Chinese. 所以誰是Chinese 依個咁深奧嘅問題, 有時都好難搞清楚. 如果擔心自己個細路只混埋d Chinese 度玩, 其實都唔駛驚啦, 就算全校一半係 Chinese, 玩得埋嘅咪都只係嗰十個八個, 仲有全校幾佰個外國人選擇. 返過來說, 就算全校只得10個 Chinese, 你個仔係要鍾個頭埋去只同佢地玩, 結果都係死㗎.

Radiomama

Absolutely!

bebemuimui

Esf kids speak English among themselves. However, u may worry about their Chinese standard.

jolalee

bobbycheung 發表於 15-2-27 19:02
如果擔心自己個細路只混埋d Chinese 度玩, 其實都唔駛驚啦, 就算全校一半係 Chinese, 玩得埋嘅咪都只係嗰十個八個, 仲有全校幾佰個外國人選擇. 返過來說, 就算全校只得10個 Chinese, 你個仔係要鍾個頭埋去只同佢地玩, 結果都係死㗎.

You are absolutely correct. Originally my ideal school is one without a dominant ethnic group so that i hope the kids can mix and play together freely. (When a certain group dominates, kids tend to "seek out their own kind" a bit more.) In the end you are right though, it is a matter of choice by the child him/herself.

Anyhow i avoided the very Caucasian schools due to my bad experience as a child, and figuring that if the expats are seeking schools with very little Asian population, they are the type who'd rather not mix with us (although our family speaks native/ near native English) and i don't want my child to be singled out in school. Parents who let their children go to a school with more Chinese in it are usually more open and willing to arrange play dates with all ethnic groups (and i was right: last year in his kindie in DBay he had only one birthday invite from another Chinese boy, but this year he has been going to every male classmates' bday party, of all ethnicity).



Just so happens that this topic is at the back of my mind while i was making some school visits both within my son's current school plus another one, and here's my observation  (of junior high & high school students):

After school activity in the visiting school-- (less then 50% Chinese)
- Caucasians dominates the school's track and field, while Asians (Chinese?) dominates the badminton court -- very very distinctively.

During lunch break in my son's current school-- (50-60% Chinese)
- Boys all mixed and play together in the soccer field
- Girls are gathered in their own cliques: the Caucasian gymnastics group, the chatty Chinese girls, and the mixed Asian group.

I am not drawing any conclusion here as i don't have any :) (and probably not sufficient data)



Again, language is not our issue as i have taught my son to speak near native level English & Chinese (thanks to the advice from fellow parents on EK here; big hugs!!) and he is picking up Mando nicely from school & from tuition. I just want my son to have a good childhood with friends from around the world, so that he can adapt well when he is away from home (wherever he'd end up 14 years from now ).

hkparent

原帖由 jolalee 於 15-02-27 發表
本帖最後由 jolalee 於 15-2-27 22:10 編輯

Thank you for your advice. 30% Chinese looks like a good number.

shadeslayer

Two schools having the same student mix may have different playground language because of their selection criteria and school policy. The overall quality of school is much much important than looking at student mix in isolation.

jolalee

hkparent 發表於 15-2-27 23:44
Thank you for your advice. 30% Chinese looks like a good number.

I've no idea how you can obtain this figure besides stalking each IS after school... They all only provide the passport nationality figure at most. I thought my target school was about 30% ethnic Chinese too, but the actual number is almost a double of that. However, it does help with strengthening the Chinese program in school as well as socialization, and given all kids speak English at home anyway (except maybe 15-20%), I don't see much problem. I actually initiated movie day with other classmates who can understand Chinese to watch a movie in Canto together, so that my son can embrace that side of himself. Other times we hang with non-Chinese classmates in expat areas with almost no chinese (I want him to be multi faceted).

Anyhow, only take ethnic mix as one of the MANY qualities you look for in a school. It should not be a primary one.

annie40

good idea to organise a Canton movie day.

bobbycheung

annie40 發表於 15-2-28 10:13
good idea to organise a Canton movie day.

家吓都好難揾到d好睇嘅 Canton movie. 記得d細路細個嗰陣時, 同佢地睇猛鬼差館及唐伯虎點秋香, 大家都笑到趴咗喺度.

annie40

女女叫我download 埋一大渣猛鬼差館同周星馳系列，比佢系外國睇喎。番尼香港夜晚無乜野做，叫爹吔同佢一齊睇審死官，笑餐懵。

Artie

annie40 發表於 15-2-28 13:09
女女叫我download 埋一大渣猛鬼差館同周星馳系列，比佢系外國睇喎。番尼香港夜晚無乜野做，叫爹吔同佢一齊 ...

Besides Stephen Chow, my kids also enjoy watching films like 半斤八兩 and 五福星. These are all very silly films but they love them.

annie40

新手家長可能以為我們的孩子個性唔夠「鬼佬」,英文又唔多好吧！

其實好想講的是佢地對住鬼friends好鬼friend, 對住華人就是香港人，總之是沒有性格分裂。

反而多了批英文又唔系甘好，又唔要講「廣東話」的孩子。明明見佢同父母講流利廣東話，同aunty傾，就好似電線短路，接收和輸出也窒窒地，應該是實習不足吧！

紅紅

原帖由 annie40 於 15-02-28 發表
新手家長可能以為我們的孩子個性唔夠「鬼佬」,英文又唔多好吧！

其實好想講的是佢地對住鬼friends好鬼frie ...

其實鬼佬根本唔會因為你似唔似鬼佬，或口音用語係咪near native先同你做朋友和傾生意，人夾人緣啫。

jolalee

annie40 發表於 15-2-28 18:17
...反而多了批英文又唔系甘好，又唔要講「廣東話」的孩子。明明見佢同父母講流利廣東話，同aunty傾，就好似電線短路，接收和輸出也窒窒地，應該是實習不足吧！

That's why it is important for the parents to speak to their children in the language they are most comfortable with. I've heard of cases where by mid-primary age, the teachers had to ask the parents to go back to speaking to their children in their native tongue, which was very very tough to readjust by then. When children are not spoken to by the child rarer in her/his own native language, they tend to lack the language skills to create deep inner thoughts, and hence it hinders their ability to think and write properly in the long run. On the other hand, kids who are spoken to in their parents' native languages has the ability to peg new languages to their core one, and exhibit strong language skills.

annie40

When children are not spoken to by the child rarer in her/his own native language, they tend to lack the language skills to create deep inner thoughts, and hence it hinders their ability to think and write properly in the long run.
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Thanks for telling me. I have never thought it.