KTS vs Good Hope

thinthinrl

My daughter is accepted by 禮賢, KTS and Good Hope. She is lucky to have choices. Hope her luck will also happen at DGJS (although this is very hard to sucess). I already gave up 禮賢 . But, KTS and Good Hope is very hard to choose.

Good Hope:
I heard many bad issues from this forum. And the school seems not that "open". They only allowed one parent to enter the school and let the remain stand on the street to wait on the interview day. It is really bad arrangment. The school haven't provide any chances for the parents to know more about the school (like open day). Althougt they have secondary school. But, my daughter K3 teacher told me that they will ask my daughter to leave if she can not catch up to their standard in P2 or P3. Really don't know this is true. Seems everythings are not that good. But, there is no way for me to find out the true.

KTS:
This school gave me good impression on the interview day. The teachers there are very nice. The arrangement on the interview day is also smooth and this is a co-edu school. They also set up an open day for the parents in Feb 06 to know more about the school. But, the only bad thing that I know is no secondary school connection. So that I have to "get mad" again to find a good secondary school to her again. To enter the primary school process is already very painful.

I am really afraid I will make a wrong decision. Please give me some advise. Many thanks!

puzzledmama

GHS is a very "conservative" school. Not as open and transparent as most of the other Catholic school. A lot of test and exams and a real tranditional approach. But I must say this approach  caters for some "less enthusiastic"  kids!! The English standard is above average. The overall school life will definitely not as much fun as other schools.

莎朗

thinthinrl,

My family member has worked at GHS for over 10 years.  Her 3 daughters also studied the primary & secondary section of GHS.  

From my view (I'm a tutor at education centre), I has educated students of the well-know school as St. Mary, Ying Wa, DBS....

I would like to share with you what I get from the students.  Education that is a long-term for children to learning and discovering.  When children are young, we let them have a happy school life to learn and develop their talents.  

Although KTS doesn't have their own secondary school, but the education scheme changes from time to time.  Don't worry about that.

man15110

知不知KTS今年收幾多小一生？Interview 果日好多人！

seki

Yes, anyone know?

Lovelymama2006

thinthinrl 寫道:
My daughter is accepted by 禮賢, KTS and Good Hope. She is lucky to have choices. Hope her luck will also happen at DGJS (although this is very hard to sucess). I already gave up 禮賢 . But, KTS and Good Hope is very hard to choose.

Good Hope:
I heard many bad issues from this forum. And the school seems not that "open". They only allowed one parent to enter the school and let the remain stand on the street to wait on the interview day. It is really bad arrangment. The school haven't provide any chances for the parents to know more about the school (like open day). Althougt they have secondary school. But, my daughter K3 teacher told me that they will ask my daughter to leave if she can not catch up to their standard in P2 or P3. Really don't know this is true. Seems everythings are not that good. But, there is no way for me to find out the true.

I am really afraid I will make a wrong decision. Please give me some advise. Many thanks!

我的女女現在是gh一年級, 聽講高年級家長說, 你講的是事實, 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦. 不過, 一年級的成績通常都很高的. 個個幾乎有90分架. 我的女女便是.
呀, 我聽我女女講今年一年級有很多留級.

BBCMum

[我的女女現在是gh一年級, 聽講高年級家長說, 你講的是事實, 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦. 不過, 一年級的成績通常都很高的. 個個幾乎有90分架. 我的女女便是.
呀, 我聽我女女講今年一年級有很多留級. [/quote]

這招：操練+淘汰，不少新進及進取的(中)學校都常用，為塑造好的平均會考成績數據以便晉身成地區名校，於是在中3及4時唔比d估計唔掂的學生升班，以免拖低學校公佈的成績，有利啟動致勝方程式：收好學生->操練/淘汰->好考試成績/名氣->收更好學生。

從學校利益角度，可能無可厚非，如果認為小朋友適合玩這遊戲的話，不妨可以考慮，因為小朋友可從過程中感受不少的成就感及自信，但如果小朋友並非這類，小心會失去快樂的童年。

ChristyBBmama

Lovelymama2006 寫道:
我的女女現在是gh一年級, 聽講高年級家長說, 你講的是事實, 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦. 不過, 一年級的成績通常都很高的. 個個幾乎有90分架. 我的女女便是.
呀, 我聽我女女講今年一年級有很多留級.

Can any GHS parents (P2-P6) clarify this rumour?
My friend's daughter is studying in P3. I remembered that when her daughter was in P1. Her marks was around 70-80.

My friend asked her class teacher about her marks.

My friend: 她只有70+分, 點算呀? 點幫佢呀?

Class teacher: 有咩問題呢? 佢e+讀緊人地P2讀既野, 有70+都算average, 冇乜大問題喎o 不過佢上堂有d唔專心啫, 慢慢黎啦---------o

This is the exact wordings that my friend told me that time. I'm quite impressed as I think that every P1 student should get 90+ marks on average two years ago. The class teacher didn't put any pressure on the student and parents.

I do not agree that 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦o However, if a student always fail during test and exam, it may be the time to find some way to help her. Changing to a school with less tests and exam, a school with a little bit lower academic level, may be a wise way to help her to build up her confidence and learning incentives. Therefore, it's difficult to judge whether 叫人轉校 is right or wrong.

This is some truth that I know from my friend two years ago. That's why I let my daughter in this school. I'm not trying to offend or defend anyone. I just think that it not fair to GHS sometimes.

lauerica

KTS是什麼學校??

thinthinrl

KTS in Kowloon Tong Primary School

lauerica 寫道:
KTS是什麼學校??

thinthinrl

莎朗,

Thanks for your advise. I really agree with u.

"Education that is a long-term for children to learning and discovering. When children are young, we let them have a happy school life to learn and develop their talents."

Many parents said GHS has many homeworks, test and exam. I really don't know my girl can handle this or not. She is studing in St. Cat. And, she love this kider very much. It seems that the KTS culture(info. from BK parents) is more fit for her. I don't know whether the workload is similar or less than GHS. And, how the KTS can make 70% of their students to enter the band 1 secondary school. But, most of the ppls rank GHS is high level than KTS.

My daughter is a cheerful, active and outgoing girl. But, not a naughty one. She is quite smart but her concentration level is not that high. Although my husband is a Catholic, but he hasn't been to the church for over 20 years. And I don't have any religion. We both are the "open minded" person and don't like the "守舊" culture. I just want her be a happy girl and a well educated kid. To let her enter a good school is a path for her future career. (Although this is a long road). But, I believe the primary school is a important  base for her future development. So that I am so serious to choose a good school for her.

But, I really have no way to find out the real picture for both schools. So that I don't know how to pick a right choice for my daughter.

"莎朗" - U said u are a tutor and get reach of the students from many school. I am much appreciated that if u can share more info to me. U can PM to me at [email protected].

I would also like to thanks for other parents advise. This is very helpful.

DocDaddy

Lovelymama2006 寫道:
我的女女現在是gh一年級, 聽講高年級家長說, 你講的是事實, 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦. 不過, 一年級的成績通常都很高的. 個個幾乎有90分架. 我的女女便是.
呀, 我聽我女女講今年一年級有很多留級.

_______________________________________

又係聽講？
唔係好明？既然一年級成績通常都很高，咁點會有咁多人留級呢？
如果成績不好就叫人放棄，咁又點會比咁多人留級呢？

  

ChiChiPaPa

我有朋友的子女讀這兩所學校，想說幾點給大家參考：

1. 兩所學校的課程都較一般學校深。
2. 兩所學校都有人留級。留級不只是德望的問題。
3. 我認識的九龍塘學生讀得比德望的開心，不過，我認識的有限，不能代表全部。
4. 九龍塘比德望少功課。
5. 德望現時只返半天，懂得安排時間的家長，絕對可安排適當的活動發展子女的潛能。
6. 現時，九龍塘只有幾個女生可以升上比德望中學好的學校，所以我不太明白莎朗說的不用考慮升中的問題。

Lovelymama2006

DocDaddy 寫道:
[quote]
Lovelymama2006 寫道:
我的女女現在是gh一年級, 聽講高年級家長說, 你講的是事實, 一有小朋友成績不好, 便叫放棄, 成績無80,90分, 便叫差架啦. 不過, 一年級的成績通常都很高的. 個個幾乎有90分架. 我的女女便是.
呀, 我聽我女女講今年一年級有很多留級.

_______________________________________

又係聽講？
唔係好明？既然一年級成績通常都很高，咁點會有咁多人留級呢？
如果成績不好就叫人放棄，咁又點會比咁多人留級呢？

   [/quote]

當然啦, 個係五年級的家長講我聽的, 唔通我要講明邊個邊個呀. 費事人地又給人地label 呀

通常成績高, 唔表示個個都係成績高喎.  我女女到,已經有機個留級啦.

叫人留級都係放棄的一種. 明明合格都留級,

gigi2

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ChiChiPaPa

我相信不只是hearsay，德望小學和KTS都是九龍北區，在運動場上有交手。運動成績對入德望中學有明顯幫助。

gigi2 寫道:

From hearsay, GHS would like to accept KTS girls.  

salina0817

Personally, I will choose Good Hope.

Msma

SORRY
我都我有六年級女兒啦，都係高年級，我都可講下啦

通常不會成績不好便叫放棄的，小女小三時成績也不好，未曾聽有老師叫小女放棄，相反我們每晚通電話，力求改進，家下已可到中中->中上啦!

除了一年級，高年級都有好多羅九十分，小女今年好多科都有 8-9x分！　其實讀傳統學校係好多人分數都好高的， 讀 kts，tsl，mcs，dps，ｓｆａ。。。。亦好多人到小六都係 9x真係一d都唔出奇，呢ｄ亦唔代表佢地因特別叻，只係努力的成果!始終係小學，肯努力讀，高分唔係太難的！

留班要抽身去睇，勉強升上去，未能打好基楚的，升上去仲會讀得申苦，越讀越無趣，不如早早了解其能力，如覺佢真要再讀多年未讀嘮，就算要升要轉校，都請小心選擇，一間合佢的學校！　

讀書漫慢長路，讀多年其實好少事詐! 我有個留過班，細個真係好鬼百厭，見校長當食飯的小學同學，上兩個禮拜上警訊接受訪問，原來家下係ｘｘｘｘ行動處長，真是莫欺少年窮呀　！　

ｇｈ係有學生比要求離校，我都識得一個，通常係行為上有問題的，而學校係係資原上唔能配合的!真係 唔會係有 70分都要你離校�　留班的 !

讀kts 同gh都無所為，問題係讀 kts 你一定要keep得佢ｄ成績係頭１０％咁就會好安全必定會上到好的中學啦！

gigi2

You said right for top school but for good school I think 30% is already OK.  And the definition of good school has different interpretation from parents.

[quote]讀 kts 你一定要keep得佢ｄ成績係頭１０％咁就會好安全必定會上到好的中學啦！

catcatmom

對唔住！我想搭傘幾句。
先前有家長都問過禮賢vs Good Hope。
好多人覺得GH程度高，禮賢程度淺，無得flight。
因唔想再argue,所以無talk back。
但我覺得最重要係程度適中，搵間適合比小朋友，唔一味講個"深"字就得！有朋友同我講過GH大概分2種：1.有錢or中產 2. 公務員。學費3K幾，剛好拿盡政府既welfare，d囡囡入唔到GH，入左KTS＆禮賢＆宣小都唔like喎！
其實我又唔係GH既家長，真唔知佢既課程有幾深，只知好多人話GH 既英文好勁！因本人有個baby girl, 仲係到摸索緊邊間學校最好最適合。所以聽下BK媽咪既comments。如選擇了GH做小學，就suppose直上埋佢間中學，12yr埋單要abt40萬。但我睇番佢中學website既2005 HKCEE Results，我淨係留意佢英文會考成績：A－C 50％大約100人；而D－E 50％大約100人，我唔知佢實際拿"A"既人數有幾多？或者係50/70/80人，佢無劃分出來。可能係我既中學年代，英文會考拿D/E係a piece of cake！唔洗invest 40萬!佢Results made me down.
朋友個妹讀DGS，當年仲係津校，唔洗錢，佢亞妹係DGS係羅底橙，英文會考係"C"。我只係羅d data出來吹下水，希望GH既current parent. No hard feeling!